Micro 717: Upick: With blood and sword GAME OVER

[Human Sequencer]

VOTE: MortFeld
I doubt Mort believes what he wrote in 243. I really don't know how to explain myself better, and I understand that we scumhunt in very different ways (which would lead to a little bit of inconsistency between my writing and his reading) but I also know he understands that too.

This case is crap. Are you pulling stuff from your behind to justify what I think amounts to a tone/gut read, or what?

This reads disingenuous. It's missing a vote.

Wheme's content is really gutpinging me but idk if that's just me or what. 248 is also really questionable because it uses the defence of 'WHO'S MY PARTNER', asking a townie to do associative scumhunting, when associative scumhunting without flips is very bad.

Giggles, why is Wheme town?

[WhemeStar]

I used "who's my partner" as a defense?

[MortFeld]

VOTE: MortFeld
I doubt Mort believes what he wrote in 243. I really don't know how to explain myself better, and I understand that we scumhunt in very different ways (which would lead to a little bit of inconsistency between my writing and his reading) but I also know he understands that too.

Getting a little tired of this idea that we scumhunt in different ways but that I should somehow understand that and townread you because of it? If you have a concrete issue with something I've said, show me what it is. But 250 only contains a single real point:

VOTE: MortFeld

This case is crap. Are you pulling stuff from your behind to justify what I think amounts to a tone/gut read, or what?

This reads disingenuous. It's missing a vote.

I prefer to talk to people I'm unsure are scum without throwing my vote at them.

[MortFeld]

Raya 246 yeah that's true, though tempered by a couple things. I think what I'm getting at is I don't think scum!Wheme requests people sheep his D7 vote any more than town!Wheme does - even if requesting people sheep that shitty vote is anti-town.

FTR I don't like the D7 wagon at all. I think this is a terrible reason to vote someone. Activity is not always NAI but only people who have played extensively with D7 could know how AI his activity level is. So basically that would be PU? And the only way a D7 lynch could go through is if people blindly trust PU's D7 read, which isn't very reasonable.

Has D7 even done anything scummy, other than not post a whole lot?

Did Raya follow up on either of these?

I never actually got much of a responce for my first question so there wasn't anything to follow up on. As for the second one I didn't have much to say about the responce. I liked what you were saying and could see where you were coming from. I agree with your points and have my neutral/unsure read on him for similar reasons. I've seen a mix of scummy and town posts from him which is why I'm unsure.

Fair enough re: Charloux. You've said 66 pinged town for you. What are some of the posts that ping scum?

Also fair enough re: not getting a response to 163 from Wheme because it's Wheme and he blatantly ignores questions even as town. Though you wouldn't really know that. Why not prod him to answer since he didn't just dodge, he literally ignored your question?

[WhemeStar]

Why did you both choose FS to start a wagon on? (I know it's to generate discussion but why FS in particular rather than anyone else?)

I scimmed people's ISOs and didn't like his that much

[WhemeStar]

Who's ignoring questions now Mort!

[MortFeld]

Who's ignoring questions now Mort!

You're acting like ignoring questions, especially questions like 'Why did you vote X,' is reasonable.

[WhemeStar]

It's not really ignoring it's me just forgetting about them

[MortFeld]

It's not really ignoring it's me just forgetting about them

So you see a question, don't answer it, and then forget about it while making other posts, and never go back and read previous posts thereby not seeing the question again?

[WhemeStar]

Yah basically

[drealmerz7]

VOTE: whemestar

this needs to go and is also likely scum

[WhemeStar]

Dreal want me to claim and then you can continue voting me again?

[drealmerz7]

not until you're L-1 do I ever want you to claim

why do you think simply because you claim it should remove you from scrutiny?

you do realize this is another rolemadness game right? (for reference, wheme and I were in D&D mafia together [got cancelled] and it was role madness and D1 he kept trying to dispell ppl wanting to vote him because he claimed a PR...)

[drealmerz7]

disuade is a better word

[Raya36]

Why did you both choose FS to start a wagon on? (I know it's to generate discussion but why FS in particular rather than anyone else?)

I scimmed people's ISOs and didn't like his that much

Glad you finally responded but could I get more of an answer than you didn't like his iso that much? What about his iso didn't you like? Can you link specific posts and explain why you didn't like them?

[Raya36]

Raya 246 yeah that's true, though tempered by a couple things. I think what I'm getting at is I don't think scum!Wheme requests people sheep his D7 vote any more than town!Wheme does - even if requesting people sheep that shitty vote is anti-town.

I guess I can see where you're coming from. I don't think I've ever played with Wheme before so it's hard for me to judge what scumWheme and townWheme specifically would do. I definitely agree that his move was anti-town though.

Fair enough re: Charloux. You've said 66 pinged town for you. What are some of the posts that ping scum?

When did I say that? Char is actually one of my townleans. I can still answer the question though. Of all of Char's posts probably the early ones related to the slip pinged me the most although I don't necessarily think they point towards him being scum. Those posts and the small amount of actual content filled posts are what's putting him towards the bottom of my townlean section rather than near the top.

[Charloux]

I can see just by skimming that there is something i can work with and will do it tomorrow. Crazy stuff is happening to me one after the other so i'm low on time right now.

[WhemeStar]

not until you're L-1 do I ever want you to claim

why do you think simply because you claim it should remove you from scrutiny?

you do realize this is another rolemadness game right? (for reference, wheme and I were in D&D mafia together [got cancelled] and it was role madness and D1 he kept trying to dispell ppl wanting to vote him because he claimed a PR...)

Not sure what role madness means but ok.

It was a joke, I claimed a doctor and the reason you still lynched me was because I didn't claim my flavor role

[WhemeStar]

Why did you both choose FS to start a wagon on? (I know it's to generate discussion but why FS in particular rather than anyone else?)

I scimmed people's ISOs and didn't like his that much

Glad you finally responded but could I get more of an answer than you didn't like his iso that much? What about his iso didn't you like? Can you link specific posts and explain why you didn't like them?

I mean I just read his iso and none of the posts look town imo.

Why are people town reading him? Because he pointed out a "fake slip?"

[Raya36]

Why did you both choose FS to start a wagon on? (I know it's to generate discussion but why FS in particular rather than anyone else?)

I scimmed people's ISOs and didn't like his that much

Glad you finally responded but could I get more of an answer than you didn't like his iso that much? What about his iso didn't you like? Can you link specific posts and explain why you didn't like them?

I mean I just read his iso and none of the posts look town imo.

Why are people town reading him? Because he pointed out a "fake slip?"

I don't think it's so much what he was pointing out but more so the fact that he was pointing stuff out and he seemed to be genuinely trying to help town.

I personally still don't have a read either way for FS since I can see arguments for both sides and this early on we don't have a lot of content to work with.

(Also role madness is when every player in the game has a power role)

[WhemeStar]

Ohhhhhh

[Pokemon Uranium]

By the way, we received confirmation that we are indeed Bulletproof.

We are General Patton, and we have a passive ability, which is retreating into a tank each night. In the tank, we are immune to all night actions except the challenge mechanic.

BTD

[ZZZX]

ZZZX: I have the best quote for you here... But I am too lazy to post it.

- drealmerz7:

WhemeStar , Human Sequencer , Pokemon Uranium

(L-2)
- Charloux:

(L-5)

- Pokemon Uranium (hydra of BTD6_maker and Gamma Emerald)

: Raya36

(L-4)
- Fire Starter:

(L-5)

- Famethyst (hydra of gigabyteTroubadour and Aelita)

:

(L-5)
- Human Sequencer:

(L-5)

- MortFeld:

Human Sequencer

(L-4)
- Raya36:

(L-5)
- Whemestar:

Fire Starter, drealmerz7

(L-3)

With 9 alive it takes 5 to lynch
(expired on 2017-06-14 04:17:39) until the nightfall

[drealmerz7]

scum is on me no doubt

have sense, folks, please, clearly I'm seen as LHF because I'm not posting (I'm not going to call it lurking because that implies I'm hanging around watching but not participating, the reason I'm not participating is because I haven't read)- my lynch today would be worthless and scum know it and are just trying to get a worthless "easy" lynch through - you can't let that shit happen in a 9p, sorry for being such a slackfuck

I'll catch up and contribute later today

[Fire Starter]

^i actually wholeheartedly believe this. Unless its AtE, he doesnt seem like scum. Ive barely been following this game though lol.