Open 688: Diffusion of Power (Game Over)

[Vedith]

doesn't matter. I know when there's no chance. this playerlist is not going to change their minds
it's pro wincon if people actually listen to my lynch order. of course, egos mean that almost never happens, but worth a try

You'll find I'm actually one that will listen if you give a case.

[Titus]

also, I don't think this is town!Titus because town!Titus does not act like this.
hellfire and creature are town and should never be lynched
sesq, eh, mightve been going for a derp clear
still possibly town i fear

Ok, are you claiming alt here? I don't recall a game with you.

Second, I propose this very plan when I am town. I didn't when I was scum. Furthermore, the mod forgot to tell us or I failed to notice how many doc/cop claims existed.

Mutton? Are you going to answer this or the other meta question or are you just going to lie and expect me to let it go?

[MuttonChopMagic]

VOTE: mutton

I don't really give a shit, forgot how lally this site is so it's inevitable. I'm gonna be lynched.
you guys WILL lynch in agent and sheep tomorrow, and if you hit town the other goes after. cinch.

No. They are my biggest TRs. Lying and being anti-town isn't encouraging me to look elsewhere. Nor is trying to dictate me to lynch elsewhere. I am voting you or Sesq today.

and you're probably scum so i don't care
you do gambits all the time including the ones that are pretty wholly awful like slayers, vedith is the type of bitch (ily) who might subscribe to lal but you aren't one as town to go there

Slayers is good in rare instances like if you have loved modifier. I don't lie, but the last time I ran slayers my personal reads were off but the rest of town laser focused on Dunn because his case on me was bad.

that's not my point, I'm not here to argue whether or not gambits are pro town
you get away with them because people know you do them. I'm an alt that doesn't want to out my main so I can't get away with that. forgot the environment, that makes me the clown
the POINT is that you yourself do lie. saying "I don't lie" is objectively false when your next sentence is an example of you lying.
gambits are lying, just like my lynchpool gambit. I tried having gamma claim. vedith and gamma kicked up a fit and it's not worth fighting, or rather trying
so instead I claimed cop. if all the docs were town scum would know all 6 docs were out and not fake it. I wanted to bait fakes.
and the evidence is there, you see it in me tunnelling doc claims because mathematically all 6 docs being out day 2 including myself is not a reasonable make
plus the fact I initially resisted claiming is more than a possibility
so, this is mafiascum and people can't meta me as a liar ans therefore want to lynch me
I'll unvote myself because there's no real point to it I guess
but the lynch is gonna happen and people need to know letting you run the game isn't blessed
UNVOTE:

[MuttonChopMagic]

also, I don't think this is town!Titus because town!Titus does not act like this.
hellfire and creature are town and should never be lynched
sesq, eh, mightve been going for a derp clear
still possibly town i fear

Ok, are you claiming alt here? I don't recall a game with you.

Second, I propose this very plan when I am town. I didn't when I was scum. Furthermore, the mod forgot to tell us or I failed to notice how many doc/cop claims existed.

Mutton? Are you going to answer this or the other meta question or are you just going to lie and expect me to let it go?

I've said I was alt. Forgot you don't read games when you sub in.
Second, What's the other meta question?

[Vedith]

Alt of who, Mutton?

[Vedith]

Also, Mutton is town.

UNVOTE: Mutton

[MuttonChopMagic]

Alt of who, Mutton?

VOTE: mutton

I don't really give a shit, forgot how lally this site is so it's inevitable. I'm gonna be lynched.
you guys WILL lynch in agent and sheep tomorrow, and if you hit town the other goes after. cinch.

No. They are my biggest TRs. Lying and being anti-town isn't encouraging me to look elsewhere. Nor is trying to dictate me to lynch elsewhere. I am voting you or Sesq today.

and you're probably scum so i don't care
you do gambits all the time including the ones that are pretty wholly awful like slayers, vedith is the type of bitch (ily) who might subscribe to lal but you aren't one as town to go there

Slayers is good in rare instances like if you have loved modifier. I don't lie, but the last time I ran slayers my personal reads were off but the rest of town laser focused on Dunn because his case on me was bad.

that's not my point, I'm not here to argue whether or not gambits are pro town
you get away with them because people know you do them. I'm an alt

that doesn't want to out my main

so I can't get away with that. forgot the environment, that makes me the clown
the POINT is that you yourself do lie. saying "I don't lie" is objectively false when your next sentence is an example of you lying.
gambits are lying, just like my lynchpool gambit. I tried having gamma claim. vedith and gamma kicked up a fit and it's not worth fighting, or rather trying
so instead I claimed cop. if all the docs were town scum would know all 6 docs were out and not fake it. I wanted to bait fakes.
and the evidence is there, you see it in me tunnelling doc claims because mathematically all 6 docs being out day 2 including myself is not a reasonable make
plus the fact I initially resisted claiming is more than a possibility
so, this is mafiascum and people can't meta me as a liar ans therefore want to lynch me
I'll unvote myself because there's no real point to it I guess
but the lynch is gonna happen and people need to know letting you run the game isn't blessed
UNVOTE:

we have played btw vedith but not recently
once, or twice, at most 3

[Vedith]

Yeah but alt of who?

[Vedith]

we have played btw vedith but not recently
once, or twice, at most 3

Was you impressed by me?

[Titus]

Gambits aren't lies at all, well most aren't. Lying to be in control when your reads are backwards isn't protown at all. If I can't trust you to get through a basic massclaim without an agenda, what can I trust you for?

Your agenda seems to be do whatever it takes to lynch town, woah is me. That behavior needs to be lynched out of this site in favor of respectable, logical play. We do that, town win rates skyrocket.

When things turn into who is jockeying for control, most of the time the dumb opinions win because they have scum backing.

PSA don't dress up lying as a gambit.

[MuttonChopMagic]

Yeah but alt of who?

we have played btw vedith but not recently
once, or twice, at most 3

Was you impressed by me?

If you missed it see the bolded in that paragraph I quoted
I caught and tunnelled scum vedith. I was happy with town vedith. I don't remember if we won though

[Titus]

I don't think we should force Mutton to out. People alt for a reason. That being said, alting means he should not rely on meta.

[Titus]

A skilled player has gambits in their arsenal and knows when to use them. I don't say never but a gambit that doesn't stop others from getting reads is a good thing.

[MuttonChopMagic]

Gambits aren't lies at all, well most aren't. Lying to be in control when your reads are backwards isn't protown at all. If I can't trust you to get through a basic massclaim without an agenda, what can I trust you for?

Your agenda seems to be do whatever it takes to lynch town, woah is me. That behavior needs to be lynched out of this site in favor of respectable, logical play. We do that, town win rates skyrocket.

When things turn into who is jockeying for control, most of the time the dumb opinions win because they have scum backing.

PSA don't dress up lying as a gambit.

"A Gambit is any action made to further a player's agenda"
I furthered my agenda by attempting to get fake cop claims jennA

slayers gambit: lol I'm bad at this game... wait it's just a prank bro but lol caught u
as in, you aren't playing a genuine game, aka lying. any more gambits you'd like to site that you do?

[MuttonChopMagic]

A skilled player has gambits in their arsenal and knows when to use them. I don't say never but a gambit that doesn't stop others from getting reads is a good thing.

It didn't stop you from getting reads. You have a pool of 7 docs and a pool of 6 cops. Enjoy.
I claimed within a short period of the last claim coming in. You missed minutes of not being able to get reads. Oh boy.
There was a high reward if claims worked out better.
That didn't happen so now we have this pitter patter.

[Gamma Emerald]

VOTE: Mutton

Docs became optimal play, as there is a gauaranteed scum in there now.

Mutton today. Sesq and Hellfire later

As much as I scumread Sparkles, yeah I agree that this is optimal.
VOTE: MuttonChopMagic

[Vedith]

As much as I scumread Sparkles, yeah I agree that this is optimal.
VOTE: MuttonChopMagic

Gamma scum

[Titus]

You're not responding to my fundamental concern and instead trying to lecture me with a faulty definition. A gambit cannot be the definition you say because a gambit would be every single post.

I have played on this site for 3+ years. I have probably done every gambit there is.

But my concern is this.

If you are willing to lie to try and force a sheep or Sparkles lynch, why should I trust you?

[Vedith]

@Mutton - who we lynching?

[Titus]

As much as I scumread Sparkles, yeah I agree that this is optimal.
VOTE: MuttonChopMagic

Gamma scum

Yeah, quite likely.

[Gamma Emerald]

VOTE: mutton

I don't really give a shit, forgot how lally this site is so it's inevitable. I'm gonna be lynched.
you guys WILL lynch in agent and sheep tomorrow, and if you hit town the other goes after. cinch.

No. They are my biggest TRs. Lying and being anti-town isn't encouraging me to look elsewhere. Nor is trying to dictate me to lynch elsewhere. I am voting you or Sesq today.

and you're probably scum so i don't care
you do gambits all the time including the ones that are pretty wholly awful like slayers, vedith is the type of bitch (ily) who might subscribe to lal but you aren't one as town to go there

Slayers is good in rare instances like if you have loved modifier. I don't lie, but the last time I ran slayers my personal reads were off but the rest of town laser focused on Dunn because his case on me was bad.

Are you sure you mean slayer's? I think you mean Fong's.

[Agent Sparkles]

VOTE: Mutton

Docs became optimal play, as there is a gauaranteed scum in there now.

Mutton today. Sesq and Hellfire later

As much as I scumread Sparkles, yeah I agree that this is optimal.
VOTE: MuttonChopMagic

Are you going to respond back to me?

[Titus]

A skilled player has gambits in their arsenal and knows when to use them. I don't say never but a gambit that doesn't stop others from getting reads is a good thing.

It didn't stop you from getting reads. You have a pool of 7 docs and a pool of 6 cops. Enjoy.
I claimed within a short period of the last claim coming in. You missed minutes of not being able to get reads. Oh boy.
There was a high reward if claims worked out better.
That didn't happen so now we have this pitter patter.

There was a huge risk and zero reward to this move. If you had let the assumption go on, we could see who thought it was faulty and gotten better reads. It would tell us a lot about Hellfire and reads within the cop pool.

I started analysis that way and now I have to sort whether you are scum or a townie desperate for control that he's willing to gamethrow.

[Titus]

VOTE: mutton

I don't really give a shit, forgot how lally this site is so it's inevitable. I'm gonna be lynched.
you guys WILL lynch in agent and sheep tomorrow, and if you hit town the other goes after. cinch.

No. They are my biggest TRs. Lying and being anti-town isn't encouraging me to look elsewhere. Nor is trying to dictate me to lynch elsewhere. I am voting you or Sesq today.

and you're probably scum so i don't care
you do gambits all the time including the ones that are pretty wholly awful like slayers, vedith is the type of bitch (ily) who might subscribe to lal but you aren't one as town to go there

Slayers is good in rare instances like if you have loved modifier. I don't lie, but the last time I ran slayers my personal reads were off but the rest of town laser focused on Dunn because his case on me was bad.

Are you sure you mean slayer's? I think you mean Fong's.

Slayer's is the gambit where you go melodramatic/over the top to get scum to vote/case you.

[Gamma Emerald]

VOTE: Mutton

Docs became optimal play, as there is a gauaranteed scum in there now.

Mutton today. Sesq and Hellfire later

As much as I scumread Sparkles, yeah I agree that this is optimal.
VOTE: MuttonChopMagic

Are you going to respond back to me?

Quote the post and sure.