Mini 1916: Buttersnap Shitfuckery (Game over, Town win!)

[Chickadee]

Rautherdir
Piggypal15


Not lynching Ari today, and no one is even voting him right now, so now sure why he's still included in that there list.

[Socrates]

Are you two explicitly townreading Chimchar?

[Rautherdir]

Rautherdir
Piggypal15


Not lynching Ari today, and no one is even voting him right now, so now sure why he's still included in that there list.

I don't know, I just wanted the top 4 people I thought people would want lynched. Anyone you would rather have on the list instead of Ari?

[Vegito]

I don't think we have too many wagons. I think Chimchar is a fine lynch. I think AC is also a fine lynch (although I'm inclined to give them more time at the moment). I'm not particularly inclined to lunch anyone else right now.

[Chickadee]

I have to leave for the night, and I won't be back before deadline. I start a new job tomorrow. I'm keeping my vote where it is, because I don't really trust the voting parties on either other wagon completely. I feel most confident in Rauth being scum here.

[Aristophanes]

My list is obviously
Rauth
Piggy

Chim needs to do more to be readable!

[PiggyGal15]

Chimchar, Ari, obviously. Interesting to note that even the secondary votes seem to be split with those wanting Chimchar also wanting Ari and those wanting me also wanting Rauth.

[Shadoweh]

Someone decided you're scum together. I guess I'll break the pattern and say Rauth, Chimchar. Actually I'd still lynch Ari too because 'He might towntell' seems really dumb to me but etc.

[Socrates]

Yes, let's reward Chimchar for lurking by giving him a pass because he doesn't have enough associatives! His V/LA is not enough to justify his lack of contribution and his vote on Piggy is balls.

12 hours people.

Chimchar is officially the biggest wagon.

Kill him.

I have to leave for the night, and I won't be back before deadline. I start a new job tomorrow. I'm keeping my vote where it is, because I don't really trust the voting parties on either other wagon completely. I feel most confident in Rauth being scum here.

But what is your feeling on chimchar himself? Using the people on the wagon to justify a no-lynch looks real bad.

[Socrates]

Optimal scumplay is to just lurk this day out. Make me townread you by posting!

[Leonshade]

Uh, Socrates isn't voting Piggy, friend. At least he was not when I posted that. The wagon as of that post was you, AC, Ari and Chimchar. I forgot Chimchar was playing so much that I forgot to mention him with the people I barely remembered playing. I suppose it could be worse but 'wagon made of all the lurkers' is a recipe for disaster, even if there's one person on it I believe in.

Soc wasn't on the Piggy wagon, I was looking at the Ari wagon.

So your only reason for disliking the wagon is that it consists of lurkers? You've expressed suspicion of Piggygal before, has that changed?

Can I interest you in AC or Chimchar?

Chimchar feels like another lurker lynch. Similar to Ari, though I don't TR Chim like I do Ari. Not a lynch I feel good about.

Why do you scumread AC?

I elaborated on my ChimChar scumread here and I've already relinked this on the very same page as your post here after being asked so to say it's a lurker lynch is either deliberately or intentionally a misrep.

You really need to start reading the game.

Regarding Chara, too hard to find where I've elaborated in my ISO because AC is a very common letter combination. However this very recent post where Chara walks back the townread on Ari just to soft-push the wagon is scumbo as fuck enough on its own to merit rope.

Chimchar being a lurker lynch was about my own reads, not about your reasoning. Though I had forgotten about your case on Chimchar.

I don't see that AC post as a walkback, since he did all of that inside the confines of one post. He could've just deleted the line about Ari being town if he didn't want to commit to it. I want more from AC if they're town, as they certainly should be capable of having more of a presence as town, but I don't want to lynch them today.

[Leonshade]

Piggygal
Chimchar

I would've had Rautherdir instead of Chimchar last night, but Vegito's recent posting has eased my concerns about Vegito. Nacho's read on Ari looks more reasonable after glancing at the meta he posted, and Majiffy had good points about Chimchar's play.

The general split between lynch preference is interesting, something to look at post-flip. I don't think Piggygal and Chimchar are scum together, so reading the end of today with the flip in mind should be very enlightening.

[/vote]Chimchar[/vote]

That's L-1, claim please.

[Leonshade]

VOTE: Chimchar

[Leonshade]

VOTE: Almost Chara

UNVOTE:

This did stick out to me at the time, I wish I had questioned it, then. I made assumptions about why Chimchar voted/unvoted, but that's bad when it comes to trying to sort someone.

[Leonshade]

Last night I was entertaining a {Piggygal, Vegito, Shadoweh} wagon, with Rautherdir as a fourth place scumread. If Chimchar is scum, I don't know who his buddies would be, other than definitely not Piggygal.

[Leonshade]

Last night I was entertaining a {Piggygal, Vegito, Shadoweh} scumteam, with Rautherdir as a fourth place scumread. If Chimchar is scum, I don't know who his buddies would be, other than definitely not Piggygal.

EBWOP.

[Socrates]

If Chimchar does in fact flip scum, this wagon alone will almost solve the game by itself.

[Leonshade]

Yes, let's reward Chimchar for lurking by giving him a pass because he doesn't have enough associatives! His V/LA is not enough to justify his lack of contribution and his vote on Piggy is balls.

I don't have a problem with Chimchar's vote on Piggy, what don't you like about it?

[Socrates]

It's entirely personal and narrow, conceptually inaccurate and highly convenient for the moment. Manufactured as fuck.

[Socrates]

And that it was all he really said.

[Shadoweh]

Last night I was entertaining a {Piggygal, Vegito, Shadoweh} scumteam, with Rautherdir as a fourth place scumread. If Chimchar is scum, I don't know who his buddies would be, other than definitely not Piggygal.

EBWOP.

I guess the entire scumteam could be constantly voting with each other... that would be a neat strategy tbh!

My feelings on Piggy are... conflicted. I don't know. I certainly don't trust her as much as Leon or Socrates atm. I probably just need more time to sort my feelings.

[Chimchar]

I'm a town AIDS prevention specialist. I can visit players at night to educate them so they can't get AIDS for the rest of the game.

Posting this now so I don't get lynched. I'll be around again after work.

[Leonshade]

Umm, does your role not specify what AIDS is in this game? Because that sounds like it could be a protective role, but it could also just be a joke role.

[Leonshade]

I don't think AIDS can be equivalent to the scumteam's NK, since in that case, that role would be a bulletproof maker.

[Shadoweh]

Did you steal your role from Gay Mafia?!