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[Cheetory6]

VoteCount 1.04

TwoFace [6]

- Bomberman, Varsoon, Infinity324, Fro99er, Aristophanes, jjh927

Raya36 [1]

- MaxwellPuckett

jjh927 [1]

- aptil

Bomberman [1]

- Havo

Not Voting [4]:

Apricity, Gamma Emerald, Raya36, TwoFace

With 13 alive, it takes 7 votes to flip someone's colour. You have (expired on 2017-06-14 09:00:00) to do so.

[Fro99er]

@Bomberman

I really think you're barking up the wrong tree, at best.

[jjh927]

No, Bomberman. I'm saying you shouldn't take day 1 votes as "This person is scum and I have loads of evidence". I like throwing my vote around a lot for reactions and your reactions to people voting you or being suspicious of you have been terrible.

What purpose is there to vote someone if you're just going to take it back, what exactly were you trying to feel out?

I've been asking you to elaborate on things but you've haven't really been doing so

right, but now he's given other reasons, so why do you keep harping on "it's D1 bro"

If you think that is the ONLY thing I have harped on him for maybe I'm not being clear enough

Just you wait and see what happens if Twoface doesn't flip red.

Most of the purpose of that vote was a reaction test. I wasn't just after your reaction either- I wanted to see how other people felt about potentially running you up. Both of those different types of reaction would be best got by a naked vote, which is why it was a naked vote. And I got reactions and I got some reads, so yeah.

[Varsoon]

If you're going to give shit to Bomber for playing the "Vote me, I don't mind flipping IC" card without self voting, you can apply the same metric to Twoface when they played similarly.

but twoface said they'd happily self vote

And did they?
Are they voting themselves now?
I feel like TwoFace's "I would happily vote myself" was just rhetoric to appear town. If they really wanted to play in that direction, they'd commit to it. Regardless, if this sort of rhetorical approach is scummy, it fits TwoFace in a similar way to Bomber, although Bomber's deflect was to how another player might contort their play rather than garnering for towncred. /shrugs.

@Mod: Thanks for the answers, my guy.
I assume that regular days can end in a no-lynch if we vote for it or if we fail to hit majority?

Anyway, apathy is the beast that will kill this game. I ask that everyone stay active and commit to their votes, because vanity wagons and lurking is what will destroy us. In every case that I've seen short deadlines outside of Blitz games, they always benefited scum.

[Bomberman]

Okay so you don't like my reaction, I understood it the 3rd time you said it

Now give me something in return and actually answer the things I am asking of you instead of creating this false dichotomy where I failed your test therefore you don't owe me shit because that's gonna make me pretty heated

[Fro99er]

And did they?
Are they voting themselves now?

they said they'd happily self-hammer

they went to bed before it got to L-1

[Fro99er]

I feel like TwoFace's "I would happily vote myself" was just rhetoric to appear town.

I did too, hence why I voted him and left my vote there. We shall see when he wakes up I guess.

[Varsoon]

Well, let's see if they nut up or shut up.
If Twoface doesn't self-hammer, then we can just lynch them D1 anyway.

[jjh927]

What do you think I still haven't answered, Bomberman?

Because if it's about the Varsoon vote then that's still me throwing my vote around.

[Fro99er]

Okay so you don't like my reaction, I understood it the 3rd time you said it

Now give me something in return and actually answer the things I am asking of you instead of creating this false dichotomy where I failed your test therefore you don't owe me shit because that's gonna make me pretty heated

Have you played with JJ before?

[jjh927]

Frog, you were in my only completed game on site.

[Bomberman]

What do you think I still haven't answered, Bomberman?

Because if it's about the Varsoon vote then that's still me throwing my vote around.

That don't make sense, I think fro99er called you out on this but then he decided to attack me for some reason? It was like, me and fro99er were on the same page but then he switched onto me for attacking you on something I disliked also

Do you see why I'm confused

[Fro99er]

Well, let's see if they nut up or shut up.
If Twoface doesn't self-hammer, then we can just lynch them D1 anyway.

yea I mean if TwoFace doesn't self-hammer, it's a scumclaim and someone else should hammer the color flip anyway.

[Cheetory6]

I'm not sure what you're talking about, you appear to already be green here?

@Mod: Thanks for the answers, my guy.
I assume that regular days can end in a no-lynch if we vote for it or if we fail to hit majority?

If majority isn't met by end of a phase, it will end with no resolution. No lynch and no colour flip votes are also options available during phases where applicable.

[Fro99er]

god damn Cheet is good with paint

[Bomberman]

Hey varsoon you should tell me what you think of this discourse going on right now regardless of TwoFace

[jjh927]

Frog called me out on me voting you for two things. 1. I was no longer voting Twoface. 2. I was voting someone scummy, rather than someone null, disagreeing with what I'd said earlier.

Honestly, I think the reason you're confused is because you're making shit up.

[Varsoon]

@MOD:

Please continue your MSPaint Avatar series. By the time you get around to mine, I might actually be able to afford to buy you a pizza. Wouldn't that be grand? On the real, though, thanks for the responses. I wasn't sure how much of the normal game mechanics also applied to the color reveal phase.

[Fro99er]

also definitely changing my sig after the game to what cheet changed it to

[Bomberman]

You talk to me like you scumread me yet you have your vote on TwoFace

Are you just complying to someone else's needs or what

[Fro99er]

You talk to me like you scumread me yet you have your vote on TwoFace

Because that's exactly what he's doing.

Why is that bad?

[jjh927]

Nah, I actually still think I should be voting someone null for the colour flip.

[Bomberman]

Well, because it shows a lack of conviction which is the freaking problem I am having with this slot right now

I have said this so many times, might dip once Varsoon answers me

[Fro99er]

Nah, I actually still think I should be voting someone null for the colour flip.

do you think twoface is null?

[Varsoon]

Hey varsoon you should tell me what you think of this discourse going on right now regardless of TwoFace

I don't think anyone needs to defend their play here;
JJ swung off the wagon to vote you, Fro99er rightfully called it out, JJ got back onto the TwoFace wagon where they should be.
I think JJ's play isn't as damning as anyone's called it out to be, and it seems that Fro99er and JJ have worked out some understanding of each other's positions in regards to both wagons.

All in all, it makes me more confident in my read on Fro99er and it provides for worthwhile interaction with JJ that'll provide the associative tells/information that I've been talking about (stuff that's useful moving forward post-flip).