Mini 1910: Railgun Mafia [Game Over]

[Fro99er]

I just said it can be you Edos

[Vedith]

Ah, missed that.

[Fro99er]

I'll wait for Cabd/Gamma/Edos to respond

[Fro99er]

and Wisdom

[Fro99er]

Also Vedith, keep that avi always plz

[Wisdom]

thats less creative than i thought

I speculated frogger would be a misaka clone (flavor knowledge needed here i guess) who thought hes misaka

But that works too, many times in the game frogger tried to act like hes the mason when i knew hes not, so i always assumed he was trying to confuse scum

[Wisdom]

A kill on accountant on n2 feels pretty unlikely though, and i am not sure i follow why you suspect edos

[Wisdom]

on aeronaut i meant

[Fro99er]

Wisdom -- let me walk you through this. You agree scum has to be in {me, penguin, you, vedith/accountant, Edos} solely based off Torque's report, yes?

[Wisdom]

yeah, the killer thing
Based solely on that the killer has to be one of these
Problem is im townreading everyone

[Fro99er]

Ok

so we know it's not Penguin. You know it's not you, and I know it's not me. I don't know it's not you, but I don't think scum!you gives me the light of day when Penguin CC's me.

That leaves Edos and Vedith. Now let me point something else out...

[Wisdom]

How about this

Math did the (non-unblockable) kill on n1 and used no other action
Gamma did the N2 kill
Cabd used a day action in D3 and used the unblockable kill on N3

[Fro99er]

Players may not use factional and individual actions simultaneously unless their role PM says otherwise

The key word here is simultaneously.

We know Edos' vest giving action happens in twilight. That is not simultaneous with actual night. I think there's a reason Alisae worded it like that (or at least left room for there to be "otherwise" in the role PM).

Edos gives his buddy (Accountant/Vedith) a vest N1. He realizes he can't just keep giving vests to his scumbuddies, so he gives a vest to Torque.

Edos being a scum BP vest giver makes sense with a vig as well. It gives scum protection when all there is so far is town protection.

Why do they attempt to kill Aero/penguin N2? I guess because they picked up on XnadrojX's bullshit townread of Aero (see XnadrojX's first post ... conveniently he also had a bullshit townread of me, which made it even better for me to fake as the other mason).

[Fro99er]

How about this

Math did the (non-unblockable) kill on n1 and used no other action
Gamma did the N2 kill
Cabd used a day action in D3 and used the unblockable kill on N3

Also possible I guess, but that would require math to use two actions, as you've stated.

[Wisdom]

Math actually had a 1shot protection from everything including kills, bit youre right that the vig makes the scum bp vendor more plausible

[Fro99er]

Math actually had a 1shot protection from everything including kills, bit youre right that the vig makes the scum bp vendor more plausible

which is why they didn't give the vest to math

[PenguinPower]

Edos being a scum BP vest giver makes sense with a vig as well.

I agree with this, and hinted at it during a discussion with Wisdom in the Neighborhood PT.

[Wisdom]

I cant shake the thought that cabd's action doesnt make sense as town but makes perfect sense if he is the unblockable killer

Does edos/cabd work?

[Fro99er]

So, I'm a Mason Novice Vigilante, Aero holstered Night 2, I tried to shoot Gamma last night, but it didn't go through.

Do you need to re-holster, because if not I think we can break this if you can vig tonight (assuming no mass roleblock again). Since we saved a kill with a protection, we can afford to waste a kill with a vig shot if we miss tonight.

[Fro99er]

I cant shake the thought that cabd's action doesnt make sense as town but makes perfect sense if he is the unblockable killer

Does edos/cabd work?

yeah, that's one of my edo combos

[PenguinPower]

So, I'm a Mason Novice Vigilante, Aero holstered Night 2, I tried to shoot Gamma last night, but it didn't go through.

Do you need to re-holster, because if not I think we can break this if you can vig tonight (assuming no mass roleblock again). Since we saved a kill with a protection, we can afford to waste a kill with a vig shot if we miss tonight.

No, I can shoot freely now (as long as I'm not blocked).

[Wisdom]

Also do you think the "if i target scum they dont get the vest" mechanic is made up? Edos was consistent with it from the beginning with trying to see who received the vest and whatnot

[Wisdom]

Not to mention that if im right about the gerry its a nice touch to cause a fake guilty like it happened

[Fro99er]

Ok

so if we lynch Edos and he flips scum, you shoot in {cabd/vedith} because those are the two most likely (gamma is plausible, but I think least likely).

If you get blocked, we turbolynch Cabd. If your kill goes through and we miss, we lynch the other.


If edos flips town, you vig me. If that gets blocked, that means Cabd is scum with me, or scum are trying to set me up. Either way Cabd is confscum then, but we should lynch me tomorrow to confirm whether Cabd and I are buddies or not to the rest of you guys (I assure you I'm flipping town). If the vig goes through, I'll obviously flip town then it's up to you guys to lynch scum. If Edos flips town then Vedith is cleared, Gerry is almost surely town because of math, and Wisdom is likely town, so it's Gamma/Cabd.

[Fro99er]

Also do you think the "if i target scum they dont get the vest" mechanic is made up? Edos was consistent with it from the beginning with trying to see who received the vest and whatnot

Who knows. It could be in a fake claim.