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VOTE: mulch

Every game I've played the 1st post has always been "good morning literally"

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Caught up. As far as lynching someone that scum hunting goes scums gonna act like town and town scum hunts so really you just have to figure out whether or not the motivation makes sense. Only other input u have on the game so far is twoface did react a little odd for rvs.

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Caught up. As far as lynching someone that scum hunting goes scums gonna act like town and town scum hunts so really you just have to figure out whether or not the motivation makes sense. Only other input u have on the game so far is twoface did react a little odd for rvs.

I'm guessing scumhunting is NAI, then?

It's about HOW they scum hunt. If you're scum hunting doesn't line up or makes sense then it's scummy. If you're scum hunting seems genuine and the motivation makes sense it's towny. Good scum is gonna look towny though.

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I'd say now sergtacos is... Thinking big....

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Taco you're doing me a concern ^

How do I know if you're not saying this to look like you're town? I mean a scum could be acting this way just to look townyy so that people will be like, hey you're doing a towny behavior so yeah you town.

VOTE: carcalilly

Not sure why taco and twoface imply carcalilly seems scummy then doesn't vote them. That's seems odd to me.

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Imply you have actually reason that carcalilly might be scum. Point out you're read on klazam has no real evidence just a "sense" from you... That doesn't look too good in my opinion. You're basically saying if carcalilly is scum that's fine but he's not getting attention until day 2.

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In my opinion carcalilly may have done the first thing that actually makes sense to scum read this game. I agree his post comes off as him trying to ACT towny. At least I agree enough to vote. Twoface is the only other one I'm concerned with. Not as strong as carcalilly though.

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Hey man if you're gonna be a troll I expect you to know things haha.

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I think dueling wagons for carcalilly and twoface wouldn't be a terrible idea? Not sure who'd agree though.

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Twoface your overreaction on mulch wasn't enough to out right scum read you but it's worth keeping in mind.

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Not crazy about what taco is doing right now. The whole self meta thing. Points out he's not try hard as town. Why point that out?

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VOTE: taco

OK so taco being trolly too much does hurt town. The meta thing with him gave me scum vibes. Honestly I pushed carcalilly to get a wagon going because it's rvs and things have to happen to get reads. Twoface doesn't do himself any favors with me personally explaining there's no such thing as too defensive. That's debatable. Taco jumps on the twoface wagon ASAP. like way too quickly in my opinion.

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Worst possible thing ever, saying someone is defensive so they are scum

I agree to an extent. There's no reason to overreact in rvs. It's random. Other than rvs I agree with you though mulch.

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Worst possible thing ever, saying someone is defensive so they are scum

I'm assuming the naked vote was due to this? I'm not gonna change my opinion. Would love to hear your thoughts after you get caught up though.

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VOTE: taco

OK so taco being trolly too much does hurt town. The meta thing with him gave me scum vibes. Honestly I pushed carcalilly to get a wagon going because it's rvs and things have to happen to get reads. Twoface doesn't do himself any favors with me personally explaining there's no such thing as too defensive. That's debatable. Taco jumps on the twoface wagon ASAP. like way too quickly in my opinion.

Taco also jumped on klazam, but again I don't know how to judge that.

It seemed like taco was starting to get some heat then jumped on the twoface wagon. That's my primary reason for voting him.

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I agree EXCEPT for rvs. It's random. You should know the votes you get on you are random.

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Is this a game theory debate or scumhunting?

Either way two-face hasn't scum hunted at all. I personally still feel more confident with sergtacos. Sergtacos why don't you know about two face anymore?

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Jesus fuck two face-to-face you have to fucking scumhunt here, not just defend yourself and say nothing else

You don't get to tell others how to play. Certainly not me especially when I've already caught one scum possibly two and am voting one of them right now.

The moment you said I was scummy for saying somebody else wa scummy you pretty much lost all credibility with me.

Worry about what you're doing and not what I'm doing. I'm a big boy.

What's the difference between me and klazam two face and why did I get the vote? Just because I was first?

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I was talking about defensiveness two-face. I'm not going to talk about it anymore.

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We need to hear more from dunkerdoodles, shuffle, Fykus, boonskies and Branson before we actually get close to a lynch anyway.

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You didn't answer why you're voting me versus klazam. We've both brought up the same points about you. What's different about me?

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What's the difference between me and klazam two face and why did I get the vote? Just because I was first?

You blatantly lied about me. Lying is confirmed scum in my book. You were the first so yes you got voted first.

I just wanted to make sure that there's no difference between me and klazam in your book.

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*Urge to talk about defensiveness intensifies* I don't want you to think I was blatantly lying it's my personal opinion but to each their own. I really do believe in my approach to that which means I'm not lying... I'll be keeping my vote on taco until others decide to get on. There's probably scum in some of those slots.

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We need to hear more from dunkerdoodles, shuffle, Fykus, boonskies and Branson before we actually get close to a lynch anyway.

Here ya go.

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Well I'll try to get along with you a little bit better. No need to make this a harder game than it is. It'll take a few days to understand how each player works individually so bare with me.

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Noooo. No more please make is stop haha.

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We'll need more Input from other slots. We could be town chasing each other in circles.

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Well at least trivium and Bronson are town reads. Before them nobody was town for me haha

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This is more of a game play question but why is the concept of dueling wagons scummy? Especially on day 1 it helps you lign up reads on the later day phases.

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I'm not suspecting him because of his personality... some of the stuff he said was just plain scummy, and it would be no matter who said it.

It's just a bad thing to be jumping on day 1, though, there are much safer options.

Not to nitpick but you said options as in plural. What 2 options are you talking about?

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Interested in boonskie and mulch's catch ups.

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Alright now we just need Fykus and boonskies to catch up and we'll have the whole gang here right?

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Not crazy that trivium is defending sergtacos but his vote on Branson makes sense.

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Branson you're case against Carcalilly makes sense. Although it really just comes down to that one post and the the tone changes. I agree with you. I still think the sergtacos vote maybe the way to go... For now. I don't agree that taco's play is dead null. To me two-faces play is more null than sergtacos at this point. Two-face would also probably be the easier push seeing how a few have already indicated they think sergtacos play is null. Also my wagon question was directed at you Branson. You pointed out I was a town read before I posted about the wagons. Why did the wagons change that?

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Blah fuck it, I'll be gone almost a week. Go ahead and lynch me if yall really want to do that so bad. You'll find out how my playstyle works. "Oh you're town, well here's some advice, dont shit post dont blah blah" <--- IDGAF My playstyle, not yours, idc about your opinion about me. Bye until then.

I think this looks as scummy as the one you just pointed out Bronson. I get bad vibes off this. Last ditch effort vibes to me. Could be cracking under the pressure a little.

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Actually Sergtacos can you just do a reads list for me with everyone placed from least to most scummy?

It is not lost on me that Sergtacos has been consistently posting for the past how many ever hours, even immediately responded to my post on him above, but now when I request actual hard reads or info he has disappeared lol

This is a great point.

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Well the purpose of the wagons wouldn't really help on day 1. I had intentions of being able to go back and see who voted where if those slots were to flip in the later games. I was just introduced to the idea of dueling wagons not long ago but I did like the fact that they're much more helpful in later day phases than on day 1. I understand we want to lynch scum day 1 but with no hard evidence to go off such as lynches and vote placement this will be the most difficult time to do that. I'm not a huge fan of extra long day 1' s. While the longer the day the better chances of catching scum... It's still the least amount of information we have. I try not to argue against the length too much because it does help catch scum and I'm not going to argue against something that helps catch scum.

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Obviously this isn't a long day 1 we still have people that haven't even posted much I'm just talking about long day 1's in general.

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I was just interested in why the dueling wagons thing stood out to you. It's a new concept to me. I kind of like it but I don't know too much about it. You make a good point though.

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exactly. you know i can read you as town or not. but youre making a big ass deal out of it and taking it too seriously right now.

Are you there? If so, respond to this question in the next 5-10 mins. if you miss that time slot ill ignore the answer you come up with.

Why are you scum?

okay yeah. VOTE: Sergtacos Youre being OVERLY aware of your selfmeta and manipulating your play to fit within that meta. Die. Im sorry bro, i didnt want to hang you on D1 but there it is.

What about my play is telling you i'm mafia here? you know how i play.

PEDIT: Thing here, I KNOW you were nervous before this game started. to transition to being a jokester sounds bullshit to me, man. more i see from you, the more i feel youre playign to your meta playbook intentionally, instead of being organic.

VOTE: two-face

I'm just extremely disappointed that you didn't go "oh I see your point, that could be true", that'd have conftowned you to me. You're too careful.

Still a null to me

Mulch- 6 pages of nothing that important then a couple pages of me and sergtacos.

So klazam points out he can get a great read on sergtacos, then proceeds to vote him for what I am left to assume is good reasoning on his behalf, then jumps on the two-face wagon not much later.

Was klazam distancing himself from sergtacos if a wagon does pick up steam? Maybe. Just seems odd how his case against two-face has much less reasoning but he jumps on it. Of course that's only if sergtacos flips scum which we can't guarantee. I just think it's worth noting.

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Like klazam seemed pretty towny to me up until that two face vote.

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I'm not so sure no more on sergtacos. Your selfmeta thing is shitty. You can wait tho, the other guy is worse.

Funny thing Klazam, I know when you will be able to TR me because of my play style. I figured if you say something like that it is because you do not want people to KNOW that i'm town based on your read on me because you know my play style, so i figured if you said that you would be scum. If you're town, thats a big mistake because I highly now believe you're scum.

VOTE: Klazam

When did klazam get moved back to town before you just moved him back to scum?

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Or null

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The cons of lynching a TOWNY sergtacos would be an obvious mislynch, he's one of the 2 easier pushes right now but his play with klazam is gonna be confusing due to then knowing each other irl. Fykus, boonskies and mulch haven't posted much at all yet and who's to say scums not in that group?

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Taco's I don't see how you can scum read mulch at this point. I don't agree with the scum read on empiricus either. The two-face scum read is a little obvious... I don't think shuffle is trying to take advantage of you're scum read list.

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Twoface is town to me now. Mulch bringing up he hasn't caught up completely multiple times seems odd.

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You're still scum to me

Thanks pal. Didn't town read you so you wouldn't scum read me.

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If he is scum this is a really really scummy post

Who's this directed to?

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You're still scum to me

Thanks pal. Didn't town read you so you wouldn't scum read me.

Why not? Would you do that as scum, or not?

TwoFace is town because scums not gonna attract that much attention to themselves right out of the gate arguing things that don't have to be argued. His case on carcalilly makes a lot of sense. Sergtacos keeps flip flopping though and overall he's the scummier slot to me. I got moved to town then back to scum on his read list and he didn't say why. Klazam and shuffle accuse him of scum and they're on his scum list. It's an obvious pattern.

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You're still scum to me

Thanks pal. Didn't town read you so you wouldn't scum read me.

Why not? Would you do that as scum, or not?

Also I don't believe you can do that based on alignments. If you do it based off alignment alone and you don't have much justification in the read it'll be kind of obvious that the read doesn't make sense.

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The whole defensive debate is what you are referring to?

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If so. There's been multiple slots say defensiveness is NAI. I'm a newer player. The fact that multiple people said this caught my attention. Then I asked myself why would you argue that so early? Well I think that if you were scum you wouldn't have. You got a lot of attention for it and I doubt you're scum because you weren't dodging attention very early. That with the fact that you've made a great case against my 2nd bigg scum read is why I town read you.

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You seem whiny when I put you back to idk scum instead of leaving you in town.

Want that read from me, then prove it

I'm not necessarily interested in your read on me itself. Just pointing out the fact that you keep changing it.

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The tacos wagon is dying it seems. I'll reread a bit and see who seems scummiest at the moment

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mulch, fykus, boonskies and dunkerdoodles don't seem to be scum hunting much at all at this point. That's 4 out of 13 people right? There's a good chance scums in there.

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VOTE: mulch

For lurking

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Well you keep saying I'll catch up. Yet you keep claiming you haven't caught up. So when you do catch up and give reads is may change. How am I supposed to know that you haven't already caught up and continue to post you will to justify a lack of reads and lurking?

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What is this shit? lol

I laughed audibly

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Empiricus or twoface what do you think of mulch? Seems like he's lurking. Then again fykus seems like he's lurking too. Fykus also jumped on that mulch vote pretty fast.

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Only because you said you PRIOMISE

Looking forward to your catch up though.

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not a fan of mulch but idk if I have a strong enough read on him to call him scum. I need to sit down and iso some people, starting with the people I do scumread

I skimmed through isos the other night. The only iso case I had that stood out to me was klazam. Branson and triviums isos seemed pretty towny to me.

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I was just giving my opinions on isos that way there might be discussion once you got done reading them. That's all.

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Can you make strong town read cases? Or would you need to wait for a laptop on that too?

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Taco, honestly youre preventing me from getting into this game. so much pointless shit to wade through

Tbh I find this bullshit No offense.

If one more person scumreads me for NAI I'm gonna get angry

I think it's the fact that sergtacos keeps posting useless information while we have a few that aren't catching up or just haven't been able to yet

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Post 725 shouldn't have been in there.

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Is there anything trivium, Branson or empiricus would like to talk about? Boonskies I'm assuming is still having irl issues.

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So you feel that mine and empiricus isos are similar? I'll have to go reread his to see exactly what you're meaning. I feel the same about mulch but I don't like scum reading someone for inactivity. It's just not too helpful to town.

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Posts i meant. Not isos.

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Well he started off lying about me. He's done nothing of value in the middle and finished it off with some buddying

Is this true, Chilly?

What up vedith. I made no lie. I simply said Twofaces defensiveness over something obviously silly seemed scummy. After much discussion and a few pointing out defensiveness is NAI I went from a scum lean to a town lean on twoface. Why would he attract so much attention to himself at the beginning of the game? So that gave him a town lean from me. As far as my middle play I've pretty much just pushed Sergtacos which a few think he's scum a few think he's town. The only other scum read I had was klazam at this point but that was based off interactions with Sergtacos. They're irl buddies that's hard to read. There's not been too much activity from a number of accounts for me to have confident scum reads.

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I'm a newer player I'm learning as I go but to call it a blatant lie playing according to my beliefs on the game I don't understand. Like if you really think 2 plus 2 is 5 you're not lying you're just wrong. I admit I was wrong but I wasn't lying.

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I'm a newer player I'm learning as I go but to call it a blatant lie playing according to my beliefs on the game I don't understand. Like if you really think 2 plus 2 is 5 you're not lying you're just wrong. I admit I was wrong but I wasn't lying.

I wouldn't even admit you were wrong, sheesh man. Learn from your mistakes, not from other people. Especially in a game about lying to win.

This is actually terrible advice, learn from both, but not the latter in this game.

nvm whatever just exercise your own discernment

I feel like you had good intentions to begin with but got lost in your own head haha.

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Seems like the Branson pressure is picking up. His iso personally comes off as towny to me... It just seems like there's a more solid case against carcalilly. If we're not going to pressure Sergtacos anymore then I'll see what mulch and fykus bring to the table. After their catch ups I'll commit to my reads a little more. As far as boons reads the only things I disagree with are the town leans on klazam and Sergtacos and the scum lean on Branson.

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You seem whiny when I put you back to idk scum instead of leaving you in town.

Want that read from me, then prove it

I'm not necessarily interested in your read on me itself. Just pointing out the fact that you keep changing it.

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The tacos wagon is dying it seems. I'll reread a bit and see who seems scummiest at the moment

Is this scummy? Because it is a bit to me. My wagon may be dying but if you strongly believe I'm scum you wouldn't stop voting for me but that is if you're town tho. You unvoted me because my wagon is dying? Dude that is a big scum alert.

This could be the one tacos is wanting you to see? He votes me in his next post.

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VOTE: Carcalilly

So mulch is town, Branson is town too.

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VOTE: Carcalilly

So mulch is town, Branson is town too.

How is mulch town??

How is Branson town??

You're giving me scummy vibes

Mulch is town because of his case against carcalilly which I strongly agree with. Carcalilly is the only scum case that makes sense to me at this point. There's a lot of fluff with carcalilly, no real direction to her posts.

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Branson's post of 881 is why I strongly feel she's town now but I town leaned her to begin with.

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The Sergtacos self-meta thing is dead null. It's a personality tell, not an alignment tell.

Absolutely this. I can't say how many times I've seen someone get lynched for being energetic in the way that they post. I do find it a bit annoying, but that's just me having my own issues.

So trivium you're scum reading Branson. Branson posts this which you obviously go out of your way to agree with. Branson makes a NAI point on Sergtacos. She doesn't get enough town cred for this? Yet carcalilly does get enough town cred from you because carcalillies post makes you think about events in the game? I'm fairly sure that's how you worded it. You did say it would seem vague though. It does seem vague.

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Sergtacos you specifically ask for trivium and boonskies to convince you what they think of me and mulch. Why do you ask for boonskies help? Is it only because he town reads me? I ask this because it doesn't seem like trivium town reads me. I'm wondering what the common ground between the two are for you.

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I could go back and forth on Sergtacos play all day but I'd rather not just focus on him on day 1. Tacos slot is super confusing to me...

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VOTE: empiricus

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Who you thinking here, Taco?

Idk right now. We need more people to post. I mean i was just thinking, know what would be funny? if we all townies argue and lynch each other, doing scum's work when some people haven't posted yet and they could be scums. xD

This is what Mafia is all about.
I can almost guarantee you that at least one scum is lurking right now waiting for exactly that.

I'm not opposed to just lynching the least active player unless someone in play is actively scummy. At least in the first round, since that is the round that is both the easiest to float through and the one that leaves the most data to go through after a lynch.

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Well what would you like me to say vedith? So I'm your 1st big scum read this game? Do you have any strong town reads yet?

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I was town reading shuffles slot before you replaced. Town lean on Branson, mulch and twoface. No super strong town vibes from anyone yet. Boonskies catch up was nice but he's only posted 8 times.

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Branson thoughts on sergtacos and Carcalilly really lined up with mine. Other than the self Meta thing she proclaimed dead null I just don't know how to take the self meta thing. Then mulch makes THE point for scum Carcalilly. Branson quotes and says welcome to my strong town list. So Branson is town for me at this point.

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Taco you're doing me a concern ^

How?

I'm aware that I'm tunneling but you're the only one with enough posts to make something solid out of so...
This is about you,

Sergtaco

~ Also threw in a little bit of advice in there because why not

Topic: Klazam Suspicion

23- RVS vote
40- Saying that they're lurking??? (IMO: He's mentioned it many times with Klazam, yet, he hasn't mentioned anyone else who's lurking.)
60- Possible explanation as to why he's getting at them. ("Fight me"?)
124- A vote and scum read without evidence. (Low-key red flag )

IMO: Could this be a scum bussing attempt? Are you trying to get at Klazam? Why be persistent on it, especially with that vote in their absence? They have

one RVS post

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Topic: Scumhunting

53- Initial show of strong opinions on scumhunting
63- He doesn't "believe in scumhunting" (IMO: It's a reasonable belief. However... keep reading)

IMO: You can consider scumhunting as NAI, but please don't emphasize being against it, as it can be discouraging. We want people to scumhunt, town or scum, because it STILL reveals information. Also, maybe focus on the

results.

This post is a highlight of my results, talking and questioning you was the hunting, for example.

Topic: Lightheartedness

!Now, I don't have anything against lightheartedness, but I just wanted to take this into account.!
IMO: Your posts have been very lighthearted, and I honestly enjoy talking to you because of that. However, I'm not going to ignore possible alt motives.
-I know that posting lightness can help emotionally when you are feeling heavy or guilty. Do you anything to feel guilty about, Taco?
-Provides distraction, keeps the game from moving forward.
-Appeal to emotion. Act friendly and get on people's good side.

Topic: Self Defense

A quick thing, but when I question him, he tends to turn it back against me.
84- A vote after a clash of opinions.
127- I'm suspicious of someone, and I'm "just saying that to look town"? Don't turn to that, that's a very easy and typical defense.

Defend. Yourself.

VOTE: Sergtacos
For now.

Anyway... someone else please come it. I don't like tunnel battles.

This is why Carcalilly is scum. She also posts a lot of fluff.

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Branson thoughts on sergtacos and Carcalilly really lined up with mine. Other than the self Meta thing she proclaimed dead null I just don't know how to take the self meta thing. Then mulch makes THE point for scum Carcalilly. Branson quotes and says welcome to my strong town list. So Branson is town for me at this point.

You realise how ridicules that sounds, right?

Well yeah but you replied before I could show you what THE point was.

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This is why Carcalilly is scum. She also posts a lot of fluff.

Fluff doesn't mean scum.

So why are you not voting scum?
Instead you are diverting to another person with no votes on them.

You can see why I'm calling you scum, right?

Yeah I get what you're saying. I think empiricus has flown under the radar not much has been said about him unless I missed something. Empiricus, Fykus and boonskies are the three that haven't been talked about too much. Seems like the game stalled for a bit and I wanted to get reads on other players before we got closer to the night phase. It's probably gonna be another super long day 1 so I guess I'll try to use my time.

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Boonskies and Fykus haven't done enough to be talked about.

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On Day 1 we'd get more information from another lynch but if that continues from those slots if they're town scum will want to take them to the end so yes they should be lynched eventually. I'd just like to get as much information as possible from the 1st day and night phases.

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VOTE: Fykus

Boonskies gave a read list but I don't think Fykus has even done that.

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I actually really don't get the Fykus votes. Sure, he hasn't done much, but you guys don't seem to be lynching for pressure; you seem to be actually okay with lynching a completely null slot. Why? It's Day 1. Null slot lynches are policy lynching, and we have no reason to throw down a policy lynch when there are actual cases on people.

Then who should we lynch over null slots? Who's the cases other than carcalilly?

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I'd rather we get some discussion and see where people stand on certain slots set we can look back after the next few days... So why would you be voting me exactly?

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It's hard for me to legitimately put forth a max effort in scum hunting on day 1. We don't have any solid evidence in who voted where on a lynch like we would in day 2. We actually have the least amount of evidence that we will on this day phase. I tend to throw my vote around as a way to get reactions and reads. I'm not particularly interested in looking towny on day 1 I'm just trying to get reads on slots so I'll have information moving forward.

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Who you thinking here, Taco?

Idk right now. We need more people to post. I mean i was just thinking, know what would be funny? if we all townies argue and lynch each other, doing scum's work when some people haven't posted yet and they could be scums. xD

This is what Mafia is all about.
I can almost guarantee you that at least one scum is lurking right now waiting for exactly that.

I'm not opposed to just lynching the least active player unless someone in play is actively scummy. At least in the first round, since that is the round that is both the easiest to float through and the one that leaves the most data to go through after a lynch.

you quoted this, Tchill, and now you're on Fykus, who I feel fits the bill on that the most, yet you were voting Emp.

See vedith. Now I'm confident boon is town. As far as vedith's reaction on my empiricus vote goes I vote empiricus, Vedith immediately tells me to vote boon or fykus. That pinged me. Then after I vote fykus vedith states that empiricus is an easy vote because he's useless at this point. Now I'm not in favor of lynching a useless townie they're still townie. Scum is in favor of bringing a useless townie to LyLo though.

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So I voted fykus on vedith's suggestion then a wagon forms on me? Thinks buddy lol.

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Thanks I meant. Dang auto correct

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And I'm pretty sure I caused more cases and reasons to vote Tchill than Vedith. I think you could tell it was obviously coming, and that I did it separate from Vedith. Vedith had his own reasons. He's the ice cream, to my whipped cream and hot fudge with the works.

In your big catch up you town read me and now you're wanting the most credit for this mislynch?

[Tchill13]

Hello everybody!

VOTE: Tchill13

Howdy!

And... Why.

VOTE: Tchill13

What's the reason for this vote?

VOTE: Tchill13

why

So if the wagon goes through... Do these guys get major town cred when I flip vanilla townie?

[Tchill13]

Hmm... Mulch does seem to bus but I look scummy atm so that just makes sense. Vedith's and boonskies cases against me make sense too. So those two are town.

[Tchill13]

Well my reads at this moment from town to scum.

Vedith, boonskies
Branson, Trivium, TwoFace
Sergtacos (lots of confusion for me there)
Empiricus, Fykus, dunkerdoodles
Carcalilly

[Tchill13]

Mulch is with taco's.

[Tchill13]

VOTE: Carcalilly

Well boonskies I was gonna talk about empiricus a little then dunkerdoodles buuuut there's a wagon on me at the moment so I'll just put my vote on who I actually believe is scum.

[Tchill13]

Well there's this thing called pressure voting. How else am I supposed to get reads on players without seeing where they voted on a lynch?

[Tchill13]

VOTE: mulch

That's twice you've bussed.

[Tchill13]

Didn't see that coming.

[Tchill13]

Yeah I meant sheeped.

[Tchill13]

oh, he did. You are right.

Yeah, Tchill's the lynch for the day. Absolutely nobody else should claim this day phase; only helps scum sort who they want to kill.

How'd you miss that boonskies? For someone that didn't participate in rvs and only made 1 huge catchup you're doing a lot to look townie. Vedith is the reason I'm in this predicament anyways yet you tried to claim the majority of it.

[Tchill13]

Well if I was scum I would have just tunneled Carcalilly and wouldn't have tried to get any more information. If that helps. In particular to Vedith he mentioned voting you or Fykus. I voted Fykus. Domino effect occurs.

[Tchill13]

Also, Tchill just had me on the top tier of his read list then stated "to look townie", so...there are no drawbacks to lynching him after his VT claim.

1: We don't out any other roles, which means scum have a hard time hitting potential PRs.
2: We get PLENTY of information from Tchill lynch.
3: Worst case scenario, we lose a VT.

No draw backs. We run the risk of plenty of drawbacks if we go further.

To be fair, I am the type of person who likes a 20-30 page Day 1, and I like being able to sit out of Day 1 entirely if I can. Day 1-2's are meh.

Also, if he flips scum, I'm most likely dead, so you don't have to deal with me. Been getting NK'd often recently, so in general, I may get NK'd.

Well that's what I'm saying though. When I flip VT you're actions won't be to have lynched scum. You're actions will look like you've scum hunted. Looked really towny. Yet all you've done is get a towny lynched. You're justifying a mislynch. That doesn't look towny so I'll give you that I guess.

[Tchill13]

While I did have you as a top town read I can't justify it knowing you're driving a wagon against town. I've given my reads though if I get hammered so I hope that helps. You will get a lot of information. I'm not gonna argue against my lynch if it guarantees a scum lynch soon though.

[Tchill13]

I'd love to know why you're gut is telling you doodles is a better lynch than me?

[Tchill13]

Ok so why is Carcalilly scummy enough to vote over me now?

[Tchill13]

Ok so why is Carcalilly scummy enough to vote over me now?

Because I'm always right.

Are you though?

VOTE: Carcalilly

[Tchill13]

Well I asked about Carcalilly's shit in particular and you just replied you're always right.

[Tchill13]

Lol I see it now.

[Tchill13]

Vedith you were the chosen one. You were supposed to bring balance back to this mafia game.

[Tchill13]

Also, he was already at L-1. He should be saying his "Last Words" right now, and he's waiting until L-1 again. This wagon doesn't need to be stalled anymore.

What is this supposed to look like? Mulch was trying like hell to get doodles going and I voted mulch because of it knowing he would vote me. I tried not to push cases for the sake of deflection just cases I already pushed. So Idk what to tell you. If I'm scum I don't call out someone for something scummy then do exactly that.

[Tchill13]

Vedith you were the chosen one. You were supposed to bring balance back to this mafia game.

I saw how people treated you and that made me hate!
Now I'm killing the young ones!

Kill.. *gasp* KILL the young ones? Well I'd fight you right now but you've got the high ground. You know what they say about the high ground.

[Tchill13]

I said I was VT. Good luck anyways town.

[Tchill13]

That moment you claim what's real but it's seen as derpish and you just feel so alone.

[Tchill13]

What's ate boon?

[Tchill13]

Idk what to do. I like how you're pressuring for a hammer before 5 people can react though. That's nice.

[Tchill13]

What's ate boon?

Appeal to Emotion

There's terms for things I'm doing that I don't even know I'm doing? Mulch declares everything he does is nai? I'm gonna assume yall know more about game play mechanics to me but some if this is odd.

[Tchill13]

UNVOTE:

Two reasons

One, I want to see what other people will say

Two, I want to be that guy that gets to hammer so I can post my Thor Gif. It looks epic.

Taco's you really are something else. I should've known when I seen your avi.

[Tchill13]

I'm just saying I'm not gonna scum read someone for something then do the same thing as scum. I got a little too caught up in hunting and I wasn't worried about looking towny. I was worried about hunting scum. So that added with the fact that boonskies is determined to lynch me since at worst its just a mislynch with no PR outs leaves me with very little to be able to say. I agree I look scummy and I can't make a scum case against boonskies because he makes a great point about not outing other PR's. I'm not gonna advocate my lynch because I refuse to advocate a townie lynch. Are there any slots that are definitely scum when I flip town?

[Tchill13]

Oh taco's definitely town though, EASY, yall both said that. Why advocate him being shot now?

[Tchill13]

Tchill and Taco team anyone? Taco just epic bailed tchill out.

He's literally the 1st person I pushed and I said that slots too confusing to read?

[Tchill13]

I swear everything in this game is nai

[Tchill13]

VOTE: Boonskiies

lol, okay. Been lynched once in two years, good luck.

Have you played with taco's twice in the past 2 years?

[Tchill13]

Carcalilly went quiet to avoid focus.

She has a life.

Only scum go outside.

Going outside is nai

[Tchill13]

Boonskies has quite the ego, or eggo rather, I didn't see that coming.

[Tchill13]

No I town read you and have yet to make a cake against you because of it or else I'd just hop right on with taco. Only the townie that's getting pushed wants to push another wagon. Carcalilly did go quiet. There's about 4 or 5 people that have completely missed this whole conversation.

[Tchill13]

Lets look at the progression of things over yesterday and today.

1) Tchill vote, I WANNA HAMMER
2) Backing away from that
3) names a Boon-mulch-vedith scumteam
4) Nah Tchill isnt scum
5) I still want to hammer tchill
6) calls Mulch incredibly scummy
7) sheeps mulch with no content on dunk
8) Mulch is good cause he a jedi
9) Klazam joke here, can be ignored
10) Still torn between mulch/tchill
11) votes tchill.

we're talking like a 24 hour period here, guys. If you think im misrepping, i can pull up 11 quotes, but i think that theres enough walls and quotes will not be as readable as the above list.

PEDIT: thanks Carca, i see what youre talking about, then.

Anyone who votes Taco can get town credit.

Mulch - Please stop, you're posts actually piss me off.

VOTE: tacos

And yes I know taco's will just focus on me more after this. Mulch probably will too.

[Tchill13]

Town to scum

Klazam, boonskies
Branson, vedith, Trivium, TwoFace
Dunkerdoodles, Fykus, empiricus
Carcalilly, Mulch
Sergtacos

[Tchill13]

I'm not sure what yall want me to do I'm voting based on who's scummiest while knowing I'm going to get a lot of resistance for it. I'm not playing for my own safety I'm not playing to look towny I'm playing to lynch scum and the way tacos is throwing his vote around wanting to hammer the 1st thing possible is ridiculous as a towny. I'm doing my best here but I don't see how I'm scummier for what I did versus the way tacos has played and how he's wanting to hammer so badly.

[Tchill13]

Well I've made my case there's not much left I can say. Klazam why are you voting with you're scum read? You literally have the 2nd best post in the game and you're going against it.

[Tchill13]

Twoface and vedith did a great job. So did mulch but he got a little paranoid at the end.