Night and Day Mafia (Game Over)

[Titus]

Ugh, now I wish I hadn't said it because Math will start whining about personal drama although they've been obvfishy since go.

[Ginngie]

Math I'll meet you on Rust, 1v1 me lego

[Titus]

P.S. i am at Aronis, Mathblade, Rauthdir and one more as scum. Probably light person.

[MathBlade]

of course I have /sarcasm

You realize you have scumread me every game we have not been in a hydra game without fail, right?

I am not dealing with this tonight I have to sleep before work. Don't like it tough shit.

[MathBlade]

Math I'll meet you on Rust, 1v1 me lego

Huh? What's Rust?

[Titus]

Ok, that's ok Math. I already got what I need from you, unless you're willing to secretly tell me who scum are.

[MathBlade]

Whatever...bed speaks. I don't know who the scum are and if I did I would tell you.

Ginnie try that statement later when I am awake. Right now it looks like gibberish.

[Vedith]

Or it could just be a typo. Why are you ignoring substance and mindset? You seem very focused on catching "slips" instead of figuring players out.

I could believe this more if it wasn't multiple times.
And the fact that he couldn't explain what was wrong with the one post but just said Rauth was Scum for it (given I haven't checked yet to see a reply)
It's not about finding a slip, it's about who's paying attention to the game and who's posting for the sake of it.

Why are you against me working him out for making meaningless posts?

[mastina]

Seventh Votecount

:

Aronis - 6 (Gamma Emerald, Vedith, Rautherdir, Keyent Think, BTD6_maker, Frosted Kelvin Bran)

79 CE - 4 (Bulbazak, Therealzeus, texcat, Mathblade)

Rautherdir - 2 (Titus, dramonic)
Bulbazak - 1 (EddieFenix)
Vedith - 1 (Aronis)
Mathblade - 1 (Ginngie)

Not Voting - 3 (79 CE, Aelita, FourTrouble)

With

18

alive, it takes

10

to lynch.

At deadline,

Aronis

would be lynched.

Day 1's deadline is Tuesday, July 4th, @ 1:00 PM PDT: (expired on 2017-07-04 15:53:22).

V/LA Notices/Mod Notes:

• mastina, the moderator, is V/LA over weekends.
  

[Bulbazak]

Okay

for real tho

I can understand the ability to town read Aronis

however

a scumread on CE

I'm wondering where that came from

It came from the neighborhood. Ari is tryharding to appear town. I'm sorry, but your read on the hydra is wrong.

I give up. Call me when we're playing mafia.

Why are you so willing to give up and not play this game? I know we haven't played together for over a year, but this isn't like you.

who wouldn't give up with the way things are going? ppl are trying to lynch me for posting in red, it's incredibly stupid.

This silliness doesn't matter in the long run. Titus just refusing to play the game does, because that is uncharacteristic of her.

Why should I not SR you?

No...

@Eddie, why shouldn't we lynch you for saying the word traitor?

Please no...

Titus, I really want to believe you're town, but you're making this so hard...

I'll finish the rest in a bit. I have some serious work I need to do first.

[79 CE]

Wait 309 is the only post I've read, Gin did you and Bulb roll scum together again? That's awesome!

[79 CE]

Wait holy fuck why are there 6 votes on Aronis lmao what did you do man

and 4 votes on us!? Classic!

[79 CE]

Well I haven't read a single BTD post but judging by that VC BTD is scum

[79 CE]

How many scum are there? Oh fucking awesome mastina you're using Mini's formatting that's so nice!! Okay 4 scum so.... meh I can't tell who the 4th is by that VC

[79 CE]

Uh I guess it could be Frosted Bran

Good enough for now

{Bran, BTD, Bulb, Gin}

No idea where our vote is....

ARI WHAT THE FUCK WE AREN'T VOTING ANYONE

VOTE: Bulb

Explicitly OMGUS

(If you're looking for a scumtell you can use that Gin)

[Bulbazak]

What's this whole 79 CE thing about? Just because of those couple posts in the Dark chat?

-Kelvin

Pretty much, although they just solidified that read with their recent posting.

Bulb, Dark PT update/status. What's up on that end?

Mainly a Rauth discussion since day start. Otherwise, not much has been happening and activity has switched to the main thread.
I thought you didn't trust me?

Or it could just be a typo. Why are you ignoring substance and mindset? You seem very focused on catching "slips" instead of figuring players out.

I could believe this more if it wasn't multiple times.

Multiple times? Quote in the neighborhood.

And the fact that he couldn't explain what was wrong with the one post but just said Rauth was Scum for it (given I haven't checked yet to see a reply)

Actually he did. Granted, it required looking at the thread, but it was immediately apparent that he was voting Rauth for the timing of his vote on Aronis, which I agree is suspect.

It's not about finding a slip, it's about who's paying attention to the game and who's posting for the sake of it.

I agree. You're just looking at the wrong people.

Why are you against me working him out for making meaningless posts?

Because the posts aren't meaningless? He's not saying much, but he

is

doing something.

I was going to move to Titus, but CE just confirmed they are scum by throwing up their hands and shouting, "You got me copper!". Not moving from that spot.

[MathBlade]

Yup nancy isn't even reading.
Even in ET when Transcend and nancy were antitown as fuck she was at least reading.
nancy saying she didn't read is pretty much a scum claim.

[Keyent Think]

OMG I DIDN'T KNOW THIS STARTED
-K

[Frosted Kelvin Bran]

VOTE: Bulb

Explicitly OMGUS

(If you're looking for a scumtell you can use that Gin)

I really don't like this.

Unvote, Vote: 79 CE

Bulbazak's posting has been pretty townish so far. I may dislike the style, but that's not relevant to the alignment of the player.

Also, since my fellow hydra partners decided to sign their posts, it should be obvious who I am. I still don't intend to sign my posts because I'll forget and it's a hassle.

[Frosted Kelvin Bran]

The more people post "you should just

know

that I'm town" the more I dislike the playerslot.

This kind of rhetoric is silly. If you really expect people to have a confident town read of you less than thirteen pages into a game (if we remove mastina's posts, this thread is probably only at 10, moderator influencing game thread length, tyranny), you are you silly.

While I do believe that confident posting is good, the high level of "I'm right and you should just

get it

" is irritating and needs to stop. If you want to convince me of something, you're going to have to actually provide reasons rather than try to berate me into thinking you're right because the sky is blue, you had a banana for breakfast, and your dog didn't shit on the floor today. Your good mood or overwhelming magical self-confidence and competence is not a reason that I will accept.

[Frosted Kelvin Bran]

I wasn't awake enough when I was around to talk much, but I'd like to clarify the wagon on aronis:

It is because he "scumslipped" by posting in red in the dark neighborhood, yes?

Because it'd be the last color he'd seen.

This doesn't really work given that the mod has explicitly stated that all of the scum have been given safeclaims.

The mafia, however, have received full safeclaims which hold the exact format of actual town role PMs.

If you want to read it yourself and are too lazy to click back to page one, here you go.

Without knowing the exact format of the role pms, there's literally no way for us to know what the "last color" aronis would've seen is. This whole tell was ridiculous to begin with, but even moreso given the above information that

everybody who read the damn rules would know

. Fuck's sake.

If I were to extend this logic further, I could say some bullshit about this meaning vedith knows the makeup of the role pms to know what the last color would be, but that's nonsense. Just like the wagon on aronis, if it is meant to be a to-lynch wagon, is nonsense. I appreciate the value of it as a pressure wagon, but can we move on to wagons with actual merit now?

79 CE's playerslot is actually scummy.

[Ginngie]

Bulba, has Ari been talking a lot?

[Titus]

I was going to move to Titus, but CE just confirmed they are scum by throwing up their hands and shouting, "You got me copper!". Not moving from that spot.

Go ahead and vote me because that's not what CE did.

Second, Rauthdir is the one that actually scumclaimed and you're ignoring him why? Math has been a buddy central and you ignore them? Your butt has firmly gone into tunnel mode while trying to offer me as a backup. I thought your early paranoia of me was town but your recent move has me doubting it.

The more people post "you should just

know

that I'm town" the more I dislike the playerslot.

This kind of rhetoric is silly. If you really expect people to have a confident town read of you less than thirteen pages into a game (if we remove mastina's posts, this thread is probably only at 10, moderator influencing game thread length, tyranny), you are you silly.

While I do believe that confident posting is good, the high level of "I'm right and you should just

get it

" is irritating and needs to stop. If you want to convince me of something, you're going to have to actually provide reasons rather than try to berate me into thinking you're right because the sky is blue, you had a banana for breakfast, and your dog didn't shit on the floor today. Your good mood or overwhelming magical self-confidence and competence is not a reason that I will accept.

Great, I wasn't convincing you.


@Kelvin, Why did you abandon the Aronis wagon with such hostility when you barely got on at the end? Also, I am referring to anyone in the hydra.

In fact, that's so sketchy I will....

VOTE: Aronis

[dramonic]

Well now I feel better about my vote.

[Frosted Kelvin Bran]

It's not hostility. I'm not feeling hostile toward the wagon. I am feeling hostile toward any personality that angles towards "I'm right and me saying that I'm right should mean you believe me" - the only person who hasn't done that to an annoying amount that is pushing a wagon is bulbazak. He's being voted by someone who's blatantly voting him for the sake of doing the "hahaha, but I'm going to vote you! The tables have turned!" - nancy's posting so far feels like scum caught for the wrong reasons.

As for the vote on the Aronis wagon, I disagreed with it but let Kelvin make the executive decision because we didn't have anyone that I felt was more vote-worthy. He said it'd be good to get some pressure out of the wagon and our vote, so the vote went on, pressure stuff and reactions happened, blah, blah.

Now I do.