Night and Day Mafia (Game Over)

[Frosted Kelvin Bran]

Well now I feel better about my vote.

Posting to express that I am in support of Dram's vote although I think that my current one is better.

[Titus]

It's not hostility. I'm not feeling hostile toward the wagon. I am feeling hostile toward any personality that angles towards "I'm right and me saying that I'm right should mean you believe me" - the only person who hasn't done that to an annoying amount that is pushing a wagon is bulbazak. He's being voted by someone who's blatantly voting him for the sake of doing the "hahaha, but I'm going to vote you! The tables have turned!" - nancy's posting so far feels like scum caught for the wrong reasons.

As for the vote on the Aronis wagon, I disagreed with it but let Kelvin make the executive decision because we didn't have anyone that I felt was more vote-worthy. He said it'd be good to get some pressure out of the wagon and our vote, so the vote went on, pressure stuff and reactions happened, blah, blah.

Now I do.

And it just happens to be the Aronis counter while you take potshots at everyone voting it and try to devolve the game into insults and cockstrutting? Guess what, everyone here has been wrong. That's not going to change expectations.

[Titus]

Well now I feel better about my vote.

Posting to express that I am in support of Dram's vote although I think that my current one is better.

Why? Why don't you mention the name of the guy he's voting for?

[Frosted Kelvin Bran]

He's voting Ruath. I don't always feel the need to explicitly mention people because there is a vote count on the same page. The reason I feel better about it is due to Rauth's posting in the dark thread as of the last... thirty ish minutes I think? I don't keep good track of time. Basically, he just focused on your / dram's votes on him and didn't talk about anything else (and calls dram's vote sheeping of you). And for some reason refuses to post in this thread at this time.

I didn't take potshots at everyone voting it. Nor did I try to devolve the game into insults. When I say "the only person who hasn't done that an annoying amount" the more correct thing to say would be "the only person that's attempted to take a leadership role and hasn't done that an annoying amount" (meaning vedith, bulbazak, to a lesser extent you).

Saying that I refuse to follow people who's reasoning for why I should follow them is "because I said so" isn't an attempt to devolve the game into cockstrutting. It's saying that cockstrutting isn't going to convince me.

[Frosted Kelvin Bran]

I also disagree that a wagon with half the votes is much of a "counter" wagon, but that's semantics and not worth arguing. If rauth's posting had been done before I woke up and checked this thread, I'd have probably voted him. As it is, I'm keeping my vote on Nancetophanes until the difference in my read between the two playerslots isn't so minimal. Both are scummy to me, I'd agree with voting either one.

[Titus]

Ok great.

I am checking out for awhile.

Ari, Kelvin hydra, Math, Rauthdir. That's got high value of containing lots if not all scums.

[Frosted Kelvin Bran]

By ari do you mean aronis or the aristophones / nancy hydra

[Vedith]

Because the posts aren't meaningless? He's not saying much, but he is doing something.

What's he doing?

[Ginngie]

By ari do you mean aronis or the aristophones / nancy hydra

Ari is Ari, Aronis is Aronis

[Vedith]

Multiple times? Quote in the neighborhood.

Responded.

[Vedith]

I agree. You're just looking at the wrong people.

I'm going to be looking at everyone.
No one is the wrong person as of yet.

[Vedith]

VOTE: Aronis

Ari, Kelvin hydra, Math, Rauthdir. That's got high value of containing lots if not all scums.

[Frosted Kelvin Bran]

By ari do you mean aronis or the aristophones / nancy hydra

Ari is Ari, Aronis is Aronis

Vedith's post above points out why I'd want to ask for this clarification.

[Titus]

VOTE: Aronis

Ari, Kelvin hydra, Math, Rauthdir. That's got high value of containing lots if not all scums.

Ari means Aronis here. Given Gin here, should clarify.

[Vedith]

Plausible, but it's a stretch.

[Gamma Emerald]

VOTE: Aronis

Might as well. RVS wagons are generally harmless unless Karnos is in the game.

Micro 671 right?

I give up. Call me when we're playing mafia.

Titus quitting RVS disturbs me

@Mastina:

Would it be possible for you to keep track of claims? That's something that is usually very annoying to track in most games.

(I should probably have added in a disclaimer of "within reason".)

<<< Sorry, that's beyond what I should be tracking. >>>

Yeah, I figured you'd say that, but a man can dream. They're just such a pain in the ass to constantly track.

inspectorscout tracked PR target votes in HoH

[Gamma Emerald]

Sorry, I haven't been able to really get on yet today. As for why I'm not posting in the dark thread, it's because reasons.

Prefer to let your buddies do the work?

[Gamma Emerald]

@Eddie, why shouldn't we lynch you for saying the word traitor?

Why is the word traitor a bad thing to you?

Town has no logical reason to consider one and sparking said conversation can easily be a crumb.

So again, why shouldn't we lynch you for it?

lol Math, I didn't know we could change usernames

What

[Gamma Emerald]

Uh I guess it could be Frosted Bran

Good enough for now

{Bran, BTD, Bulb, Gin}

No idea where our vote is....

ARI WHAT THE FUCK WE AREN'T VOTING ANYONE

VOTE: Bulb

Explicitly OMGUS

(If you're looking for a scumtell you can use that Gin)

This whole sequence is totes awful
VOTE: 79 CE
Just got a load more confident in this

[Gamma Emerald]

I wasn't awake enough when I was around to talk much, but I'd like to clarify the wagon on aronis:

It is because he "scumslipped" by posting in red in the dark neighborhood, yes?

Because it'd be the last color he'd seen.

This doesn't really work given that the mod has explicitly stated that all of the scum have been given safeclaims.

The mafia, however, have received full safeclaims which hold the exact format of actual town role PMs.

If you want to read it yourself and are too lazy to click back to page one, here you go.

Without knowing the exact format of the role pms, there's literally no way for us to know what the "last color" aronis would've seen is. This whole tell was ridiculous to begin with, but even moreso given the above information that

everybody who read the damn rules would know

. Fuck's sake.

If I were to extend this logic further, I could say some bullshit about this meaning vedith knows the makeup of the role pms to know what the last color would be, but that's nonsense. Just like the wagon on aronis, if it is meant to be a to-lynch wagon, is nonsense. I appreciate the value of it as a pressure wagon, but can we move on to wagons with actual merit now?

79 CE's playerslot is actually scummy.

Holy shit this is town

[Titus]

I wasn't awake enough when I was around to talk much, but I'd like to clarify the wagon on aronis:

It is because he "scumslipped" by posting in red in the dark neighborhood, yes?

Because it'd be the last color he'd seen.

This doesn't really work given that the mod has explicitly stated that all of the scum have been given safeclaims.

The mafia, however, have received full safeclaims which hold the exact format of actual town role PMs.

If you want to read it yourself and are too lazy to click back to page one, here you go.

Without knowing the exact format of the role pms, there's literally no way for us to know what the "last color" aronis would've seen is. This whole tell was ridiculous to begin with, but even moreso given the above information that

everybody who read the damn rules would know

. Fuck's sake.

If I were to extend this logic further, I could say some bullshit about this meaning vedith knows the makeup of the role pms to know what the last color would be, but that's nonsense. Just like the wagon on aronis, if it is meant to be a to-lynch wagon, is nonsense. I appreciate the value of it as a pressure wagon, but can we move on to wagons with actual merit now?

79 CE's playerslot is actually scummy.

Holy shit this is town

Holy shit it is not and this reaction could use explaination. It's a last ditch attempt to tear down the Aronis wagon and if these concerns were true, genuine and as serious as they claim, they were true at the time of the hydra casting its vote. Which means the hydra never should have cast it.

[Gamma Emerald]

I don't expect that complex of an argument out of the gate from mafia

[Frosted Kelvin Bran]

While I appreciate the vote of confidence, that's not actually a good reason to townread me.

[Vedith]

I don't expect that complex of an argument out of the gate from mafia

If someone types more than 5 words you consider it a complex argument.
Opinion Null and void.

[Gamma Emerald]

Eh w/e
I also like not just going at the surface of the Aronis argument