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[kraska77]

I skimmed nerocains ISO and has been wishywashy about everything so far...whenever pressed for reads, nerocains like " I don't know could be scumz could be town idk"

[kraska77]

I'm always wishwashy.

No from what i remember you always have this one scumread ure stubborn as a mule about

[Cheetory6]

kraska do you like playing scum?

[kraska77]

No

[Nero Cain]

No from what i remember you always have this one scumread ure stubborn as a mule about

I get called out on fence sitting like all the time and wasn't I scum in the game we played together?

[kraska77]

No pretty sure my impression of you is annoyingly stubborn about reads
But this isn't about meta anyway, you still don't have any real reads at this point and that's suspicious

[Nero Cain]

I don't lawl.

go back to road to rome.

[kraska77]

Sure

[kraska77]

Well gotta go guyz
Waffles is a better place to vote than nm I think
And a nerocain wagon wouldn't be bad either,

[Nero Cain]

you know that waffles was my first scum read yes? Like it just feels really disingenuous that you knew I was calling Sling scum and that I was right but also trying to push me. Like its really convoluted.

[CCC]

VOTE: Cheetory6

Based off page 1

What? You're finally reading the game and making reads?

Well, welcome!

...let's see. Looking over your ISO, you're scumreading Cheet and Gamma (with no reason given in the second case) and townreading Nero (again, no reason given).

Thank you for providing some small crumb that's more alignment indicative than a complete null!

[CCC]

You're at L-1 actually!

No, no, L-2. He'd just removed his own self-vote a few votes previous.

[CCC]

Is there any interest in Penguin?

there is actually alot of interest in PP rn.

What do you think of notsure/sling?

Mostly null, but with a slightly Townish lean.

Penguin, on the other hand, I find mostly null with a slightly scummish lean.

I'm more certain on the Gamma slot - his inability to explain his "own" reads looks like a fairly good scumtell, I think.

[CCC]

CCC

OK nope, now I'm going FULL BLOWN

why is CCC this high?

Because I'm Town?

I don't know how Cheetory's recognising that, mind you.

I'm not voting anywhere else if that's all Not_Mafia intends to post.
(:

200% Agree

This is a reason to unvote

Yeah, agreed. The fact that NTRP leapt off the Gamma Emerald wagon so early is reinforcing my theory that both of them are Mafia and NotTheRealPaul's vote was only intended to distance himself.

(Okay, the odds of me reliably finding two scum on day one are kind of low. But if one of them flips Mafia, then I'm probably going to park my vote on the other one tomorrow).

[NotTheRealPaul]

CAN SOMEONE EXPLAIN THE BACKHAND CASE TO ME??? ive been asking for like 4 days.

Also VOTE: Not Mafia

Not my favorite wagon but no other case seems to be gaining any traction.

CCC here is my actual bote. Please read thank you. Im fine with GE just didnt look like anyone else wanted that lynch.

[CCC]

CAN SOMEONE EXPLAIN THE BACKHAND CASE TO ME??? ive been asking for like 4 days.

Also VOTE: Not Mafia

Not my favorite wagon but no other case seems to be gaining any traction.

CCC here is my actual bote. Please read thank you. Im fine with GE just didnt look like anyone else wanted that lynch.

Are you trying to pretend you haven't seen the latest vote count? Gamma/kraska is the number two wagon after Not_Mafia. If you were to move from Not_Mafia to Gamma, then Gamma would be the top wagon.

[CCC]

My thoughts on the current top wagons:

Not_Mafia is a policy lynch. He's been pretty near silent. Then he put on two votes, claimed a gut scumread on Cheet and gave no explanation of the Gamma vote, and said Nero was town. That's a pretty pathetically minimal contribution to the state of the game, especially since having caught up, I suspect that the reason behind the Gamma vote was self-preservation (which is NAI because all roles benefit from self-preservation).

Gamma actually looks like scum for a variety of reasons, which I have gone over before.

So, I suspect that Not_Mafia is scum's mislynch for today. It's an easy wagon to push, since it's a policy lynch for a genuinely super-quiet player. It's also a wagon that does not reflect badly on scum-on-the-wagon if the slot flips Town. Therefore, I think that the only reason Not_Mafia's wagon has progressed so far, is that there is scum on it; if Not_Mafia is lynched today and flips Town, then I would recommend taking a very close look at everyone on that wagon tomorrow.

Currently, my vote is staying on Gamma/kraska77.

[NotTheRealPaul]

CCC your gamma case is simply that he could not explain reads right?

And no I dont really look at the VCs unless host/mod updates them frequently were they ar e on every page/every other page.

[Backhand]

My thoughts on the current top wagons:

Not_Mafia is a policy lynch. He's been pretty near silent. Then he put on two votes, claimed a gut scumread on Cheet and gave no explanation of the Gamma vote, and said Nero was town. That's a pretty pathetically minimal contribution to the state of the game, especially since having caught up, I suspect that the reason behind the Gamma vote was self-preservation (which is NAI because all roles benefit from self-preservation).

Gamma actually looks like scum for a variety of reasons, which I have gone over before.

So, I suspect that Not_Mafia is scum's mislynch for today. It's an easy wagon to push, since it's a policy lynch for a genuinely super-quiet player. It's also a wagon that does not reflect badly on scum-on-the-wagon if the slot flips Town. Therefore, I think that the only reason Not_Mafia's wagon has progressed so far, is that there is scum on it; if Not_Mafia is lynched today and flips Town, then I would recommend taking a very close look at everyone on that wagon tomorrow.

Currently, my vote is staying on Gamma/kraska77.

Backhand, Cheetory6, DeathRowKitty, NotTheRealPaul, PenguinPower

The list of people on NM currently--CCC, if you believe Not_Mafia to be scum's mislynch, shouldn't your scumreads be within this five?

[NotTheRealPaul]

Im the 5. I believe he scumreads me

[SlingshotWaffles]

Im the 5. I believe he scumreads me

You and Backhand and Cheet.

[Backhand]

? Where did he scumread me or Cheet?

[SlingshotWaffles]

? Where did he scumread me or Cheet?

I'm saying mine.

Because I agree with him that Gamma should be lynched and that NM is the easy mislynch.

[Grendel]

People need to learn not to join more games than they can handle. It's a burden to players and mods. Just saying.

Seconded

It rly pisses me off that players replace out whilly nilly here.

Its a huge deservice to the mod and the rest of the roster, and generally makes the game harder for me to read.

[kraska77]

hey
hey
waffles mc scumpants

stop ignoring my existence. "i agree with him that gamma should be lynched" well gamma's no longer here and im his replacement and so you will be lynching me. i said some stuff about you, dont you have anything to say about that?