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[SlingshotWaffles]

I don't like CCC but Gamma slot is worse.

[implosion]

Vote Count 1.15

kraska77 (4): CCC, SlingshotWaffles, Nero Cain, Not_Mafia
CCC (4): Hiraki, Cheetory6, kraska77, PenguinPower
Not_Mafia (3): Backhand, DeathRowKitty, NotTheRealPaul
PenguinPower (1): Grendel
Nero Cain (1): MuttonChopMagic

Not Voting (0): Nobody


With 13 alive, it takes 7 votes to lynch.
Deadline is on Friday, June 16th at 5:00 PM PST, in (expired on 2017-06-16 20:00:00).

[NotTheRealPaul]

@Kraska Prob waffles

That's not going anywhere though. And CCC is fine with me too.

VOTE: CCC

[SlingshotWaffles]

Comparison was probably bad.
Your question was still pretty ridiculous though, ie I don't know what kind of answer you were expecting from it that wasn't already detailed in her posts.
She's walked through why she finds you suspect and your response is to just ask what is suspect about you when she already has???

Because for me, that isn't something to SR me over. It's stuff I do every game no matter what.

then stop doing that ffs, how can you conscious about how aimless your play is but still repeat it every game?

hate to admit it but im having second doubts about this
and willing to switch vote to any other place than on nm(and grendel and backhand who seem town), so as to get an informative lynch

Because it's fun and I can find scum through it.

[kraska77]

You sure caught me!

[SlingshotWaffles]

You sure caught me!

Were still not sure of your alignment though, so we can't be sure.

[Backhand]

Eh.
VOTE: CCC
I really don't like this post:

My thoughts on the current top wagons:

Not_Mafia is a policy lynch. He's been pretty near silent. Then he put on two votes, claimed a gut scumread on Cheet and gave no explanation of the Gamma vote, and said Nero was town. That's a pretty pathetically minimal contribution to the state of the game, especially since having caught up, I suspect that the reason behind the Gamma vote was self-preservation (which is NAI because all roles benefit from self-preservation).

Gamma actually looks like scum for a variety of reasons, which I have gone over before.

So, I suspect that Not_Mafia is scum's mislynch for today. It's an easy wagon to push, since it's a policy lynch for a genuinely super-quiet player. It's also a wagon that does not reflect badly on scum-on-the-wagon if the slot flips Town. Therefore, I think that the only reason Not_Mafia's wagon has progressed so far, is that there is scum on it; if Not_Mafia is lynched today and flips Town, then I would recommend taking a very close look at everyone on that wagon tomorrow.

Currently, my vote is staying on Gamma/kraska77.

There's a lot that feels off with this post.
Especially the "tomorrow I will pick at the wagon". Seems a lot more like setup for tomorrow than a genuine interest in parsing the wagon itself, especially since there's nothing specific being unpacked here.
Also don't like the declaration of N_M being a policy lynch. The confidence there feels a little like it's coming from a place of too much information.

I also don't like this post. Maybe because I never saw the gamma wagon as being that strong, but if you really think that mafia are on the NM lynch, why not attack one of them instead of parking on gammakraska? I had been townreading him most of the game, though.

[MuttonChopMagic]

VOTE: cheet

[Backhand]

What's up, mcm?

Can you put this one in a haiku?

[kraska77]

@transcend alt
atleast vote somewhere more relevant

Vote Count 1.15

kraska77 (4): CCC, SlingshotWaffles, Nero Cain, Not_Mafia
CCC (4): Hiraki, Cheetory6, kraska77, PenguinPower
Not_Mafia (3): Backhand, DeathRowKitty, NotTheRealPaul

pick one

[Cheetory6]

Let's play the push me game tomorrow so I can properly make you all feel stupid for not recognizing townCheet in action without distracting from the end of day, pls and ty.

[kraska77]

Not_Mafia- who the fk knows
DeathRowKitty- no opinion yet
Cheetory6- town
Hiraki- lean town
CCC- lean scum
Grendel- after reading the iso im not sure about this one
MuttonChopMagic- who the fk knows
SlingshotWaffles- lean scum
Backhand- town
Nero Cain- SCUM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! but i would like to make sure people like waffles and ccc dont make it to end game before lynching nero
NotTheRealPaul- i think this might be scum
PenguinPower- no opinion yet

[Cheetory6]

Kraska's probably town. N_M's read on me kind of makes sense even if I'm still pretty annoyed by the way he's pushing it. I'm waffling on waffles and my gut likes CCC for scum.
Pick one and if you still don't like me tomorrow, push me then and I'll probably get mad and you'll be like "oh ya ok that's townCheet yay nice".
There literally has not been a game where, as town, I haven't been able to make it obvious that I'm town when my head's in the game. I'll get there if you don't last minute lamewagon me for no reason at the end of D1.

[Cheetory6]

Grendel's probably town kraska.

[Nero Cain]

lol. Part of me just wants to vote not CCC to spite kraska but someone give me a nutshell case on him.

[Grendel]

CCC gets run into the ground every D1 that he is town. The only exception I recall off hand is the only other game I played with him where I helped divert the pressure off him.

He has played a more null game, but I'm thinking that this wagon is not my pick.

I'll review the thread to be sure.

[kraska77]

Why should the fact that the main wagons are on people who usually get lynched early for bad play change anything? Lots of people feel like they have no footing because we're stuck in moonlogic limbo. it is still in towns best interests to not take lynchbait to endgame

[Grendel]

It has more to with me feeling bad for people that are constantly lynched early because their playsytle isn't "palatable" to site meta. Like I'm not checked the logic of this speed wagon yet but odds are that CCC is getting lynched for null reasons. >.>

I don't think I said anything about you/NM getting lynched early. I know very little about both of you.

[Cheetory6]

In your experience, do you think CCC gets very confident about things as town?

[MuttonChopMagic]

VOTE: backhand

[Grendel]

Not this early no. The majority of his reads remain null throughout D1.

Pre-edit

VOTE: Backhand

[kraska77]

Ccc is getting lynched over nm because anyone can get away with voting nm today and everyone agrees nm hasn't done much at all. Ccc is someone who has put out more content and people had differing opinions on him. We get more info this way. Also I can't follow ccc's thought process on most reads, his posting is bad

Pedit: hmmm

[Cheetory6]

The majority of his reads remain null throughout D1.

Does him saying with like.. a really high level of confidence that N_M is a policy lynch that scum is pushing not give you bad feels here?

[MuttonChopMagic]

no, he's not actually
I town read ccc
I null read nm, you see?

[kraska77]

Grendel switching from pp, who noone seems to townread, to backhand who definitely won't get lynched today doesn't make sense. Grendel can actually campaign for a pp lynch if he tries but he chooses to park a vote somewhere irrelevant instead