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Post Post #1125 (ISO) » Thu Jun 15, 2017 7:03 am

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In post 1124, kraska77 wrote:Grendel switching from pp, who noone seems to townread, to backhand
who definitely won't get lynched today
doesn't make sense. Grendel can actually campaign for a pp lynch if he tries but he chooses to park a vote somewhere irrelevant instead
you saying this means I am not moving my vote for the rest of the day
backhand is legitimately scummy, not one of two policy lynches and yourself babe
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Post Post #1126 (ISO) » Thu Jun 15, 2017 7:04 am

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also, kraska, if backhand isn't getting lynched you are
i suggest you lay out exactly why he's town or vote him my star
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Post Post #1127 (ISO) » Thu Jun 15, 2017 7:06 am

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kraska77 wrote:Grendel switching from pp, who noone seems to townread, to backhand who definitely won't get lynched today doesn't make sense. Grendel can actually campaign for a pp lynch if he tries but he chooses to park a vote somewhere irrelevant instead
Eveybody says people Penguin is viable, yet I've have seen no debates, and no interest after I voted.

If you are expecting me to agro push to lynch for Pengiun then you have higher expections for my ability to rally a lynch then I do.
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Post Post #1128 (ISO) » Thu Jun 15, 2017 7:09 am

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In post 1122, Cheetory6 wrote:
In post 1120, Grendel wrote:The majority of his reads remain null throughout D1.
Does him saying with like.. a really high level of confidence that N_M is a policy lynch that scum is pushing not give you bad feels here?
I'll look at CCC when I come back after lunch.

Was he on the NM wagon when he said that?
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Post Post #1129 (ISO) » Thu Jun 15, 2017 7:10 am

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@kranska Maybe I'm not understanding something but are you actually scumreading CCC or just want him lynched 'cause he's "lynchbait"?
Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.

edited c.s. lewis quote b/c limit
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Post Post #1130 (ISO) » Thu Jun 15, 2017 7:13 am

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In post 1128, Grendel wrote:
In post 1122, Cheetory6 wrote:
In post 1120, Grendel wrote:The majority of his reads remain null throughout D1.
Does him saying with like.. a really high level of confidence that N_M is a policy lynch that scum is pushing not give you bad feels here?
I'll look at CCC when I come back after lunch.

Was he on the NM wagon when he said that?
Nah, he was on Gammakraska. MCM, why are you scumreading me now?
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Post Post #1131 (ISO) » Thu Jun 15, 2017 7:16 am

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In post 1129, Nero Cain wrote:@kranska Maybe I'm not understanding something but are you actually scumreading CCC or just want him lynched 'cause he's "lynchbait"?
I just posted my reads a page ago and said multiple times that I can't follow his thought process and don't like his posts,
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Post Post #1132 (ISO) » Thu Jun 15, 2017 7:26 am

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Nerocain is so scum
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Post Post #1133 (ISO) » Thu Jun 15, 2017 7:30 am

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Nero who's scum?
Bonus points if you actually explain why and convince me.
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Post Post #1134 (ISO) » Thu Jun 15, 2017 7:44 am

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I really hate that PP is posting elsewhere and hasn't dropped anything significant here.
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Post Post #1135 (ISO) » Thu Jun 15, 2017 8:08 am

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VOTE: pp
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Post Post #1136 (ISO) » Thu Jun 15, 2017 8:08 am

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VOTE: kraska
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Post Post #1137 (ISO) » Thu Jun 15, 2017 8:09 am

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Yeah. This seems like a Transcend alt.
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Post Post #1138 (ISO) » Thu Jun 15, 2017 9:19 am

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hey guys
do u see whats wrong with this :down: ?
In post 765, Grendel wrote:I want to lynch Backhand, but will consider compromising on {Not_Mafia, Penguin power, Hiraki}
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Post Post #1139 (ISO) » Thu Jun 15, 2017 9:21 am

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so if pp, nm and hiraki are all on the same tier for grendel and all 3 are compromise votes then why did grendel switch from backhand to a vanity vote on pp instead of join a wagon on nm that has traction
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Post Post #1140 (ISO) » Thu Jun 15, 2017 9:29 am

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grendel has been really inconsistent. doesn't necessarily make him scum, but something to note for later...

anway
ccc is at l-1, claim pls
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Post Post #1141 (ISO) » Thu Jun 15, 2017 9:41 am

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if you are town and voting ccc I advise you reconsider
he's town and this wagon belongs in the shitter
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Post Post #1142 (ISO) » Thu Jun 15, 2017 9:56 am

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loser that doesn't even rhyme
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Post Post #1143 (ISO) » Thu Jun 15, 2017 9:59 am

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CCC is L-2.
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Post Post #1144 (ISO) » Thu Jun 15, 2017 10:05 am

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yea it does want off coz
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Post Post #1145 (ISO) » Thu Jun 15, 2017 10:12 am

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In post 992, NotTheRealPaul wrote:CCC your gamma case is simply that he could not explain reads right?
That's not the
whole
case, but it is an important part of the case.

Another part of the case is that you, my other top scumread, voted for him when there was no danger of a lynch and then took care to remove your vote well before he was in any danger of a lynch.
In post 992, NotTheRealPaul wrote:And no I dont really look at the VCs unless host/mod updates them frequently were they ar e on every page/every other page.
Interesting. You had the wagon pointed out to you
explicitly
, even replied to the post in question, and still want to stick to your policy lynch on Not_Mafia?
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Post Post #1146 (ISO) » Thu Jun 15, 2017 10:18 am

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In post 993, Backhand wrote:
In post 991, CCC wrote:My thoughts on the current top wagons:

Not_Mafia is a policy lynch. He's been pretty near silent. Then he put on two votes, claimed a gut scumread on Cheet and gave no explanation of the Gamma vote, and said Nero was town. That's a pretty pathetically minimal contribution to the state of the game, especially since having caught up, I suspect that the reason behind the Gamma vote was self-preservation (which is NAI because all roles benefit from self-preservation).

Gamma actually looks like scum for a variety of reasons, which I have gone over before.

So, I suspect that Not_Mafia is scum's mislynch for today. It's an easy wagon to push, since it's a policy lynch for a genuinely super-quiet player. It's also a wagon that does not reflect badly on scum-on-the-wagon if the slot flips Town. Therefore, I think that the only reason Not_Mafia's wagon has progressed so far, is that there is scum on it; if Not_Mafia is lynched today and flips Town, then I would recommend taking a very close look at everyone on that wagon tomorrow.

Currently, my vote is staying on Gamma/kraska77.
Backhand, Cheetory6, DeathRowKitty, NotTheRealPaul, PenguinPower

The list of people on NM currently--CCC, if you believe Not_Mafia to be scum's mislynch, shouldn't your scumreads be within this five?
N_M would be a good mislynch for Mafia. However, one part of why I think most of the Mafia are on his wagon is that I believe it to be a distraction from the Gamma/Kraska77 wagon (if Gamma/Kraska77 is
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Mafia, then there may well be scum on both wagons).

My current top theory is that Mafia consists of Kraska77, NotTheRealPaul, and - probably either PenguinPower or DeathRowKitty, but I'm less sure on the third slot. Now, I don't have
great
reads on any of them... but if I had to pick right now, then that's where I'd imagine our scumteam to be.
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Post Post #1147 (ISO) » Thu Jun 15, 2017 10:23 am

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In post 1023, Backhand wrote:Does kraska's posting change your view on what was the GE slot? If not, why?

Her posting today has pretty much removed my interest in that lynch, is part of why I ask.
Kraska's posting looks pretty null to me, so far. My vote for the slot is based entirely on the behaviours of Gamma and NotTheRealPaul.
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Post Post #1148 (ISO) » Thu Jun 15, 2017 10:25 am

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In post 1028, Backhand wrote:Also this is WIFOM, but ScumReplacementKraska also parks on NotMafia, I think, unless they're both scum which is improbable.
ScumReplacementKraska might very well be waiting for one more Townie on that wagon first, in order to hammer it. (Especially if both other scum are already on it).
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Post Post #1149 (ISO) » Thu Jun 15, 2017 10:37 am

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I see what you're saying (not so much the last part, but whatever there are other reasons she might or might not its not important)--but since I've been townreading kraska, it makes it hard to follow the rest of it.

Not_mafia remains incredibly frustrating/useless, still my top choice. Also I have everyone on the wagon except PP on the town side, so I'm not really buying the "scum are piling onto the wagon" argument

Would be OK with a PP or nero wagon. Not hopping on CCC or kraska.

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