Open 688: Diffusion of Power (Game Over)

Cooperative Sheep · Post Post #1325 (ISO) » Thu Jun 15, 2017 7:12 am

In post 1320, Vedith wrote:
In post 1319, Cooperative Sheep wrote:You're ducking the question by using a lot of words.
What is the resistance to the Sesq wagon as you see it?
How does that resistance differ from resistance to other non-wagons that have 1 vote?
Well, for a start, the resistence to the non wagons are a matter of different opinions.
The resistance of the Sesq wagon is people avoiding making a stance or commenting on it... Considering it's the only wagon, that's not normal.

I don't think you've asked anyone for their opinion on it besides me (and it was given).
Is that avoidance or the general malise of the game?
Clearly you're going with avoidance - but off what evidence?

Cooperative Sheep · Post Post #1326 (ISO) » Thu Jun 15, 2017 7:13 am

Also, that's too many avoiders to be all scum, so...?

Sesq · Post Post #1327 (ISO) » Thu Jun 15, 2017 7:21 am

In post 1300, Cooperative Sheep wrote:
In post 1277, Sesq wrote:has he done anything productive?

it's just so obvious
I will agree he hasn't been overly productive.
I would note that he is hardly alone in that category, and I'd argue some slots are less productive than him.
I also, sadly, would have to note that being useless is something many town players do - so how does this suggests he's scum, much less suggest he's more likely scum than any of the other non-producers we're having to deal with in this game?

In post 1279, Vedith wrote:Resistance to the wagon implies Scum.
Resistance to which wagon?
I can count at least two that are getting obvious resistance - which one are you noting?

this was my mistake for not elaborating enough

that was not a valid point

however, what he has done is try to look like he was being productive, and herein lies a valid scumtell.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #1328 (ISO) » Thu Jun 15, 2017 7:22 am

Anyone wanna vote Sparkles with me

Vedith · Post Post #1329 (ISO) » Thu Jun 15, 2017 7:24 am

In post 1325, Cooperative Sheep wrote:
In post 1320, Vedith wrote:
In post 1319, Cooperative Sheep wrote:You're ducking the question by using a lot of words.
What is the resistance to the Sesq wagon as you see it?
How does that resistance differ from resistance to other non-wagons that have 1 vote?
Well, for a start, the resistence to the non wagons are a matter of different opinions.
The resistance of the Sesq wagon is people avoiding making a stance or commenting on it... Considering it's the only wagon, that's not normal.
I don't think you've asked anyone for their opinion on it besides me (and it was given).
Is that avoidance or the general malise of the game?
Clearly you're going with avoidance - but off what evidence?

Comment Null and void as both question and comment was stupid.

Vedith · Post Post #1330 (ISO) » Thu Jun 15, 2017 7:24 am

In post 1326, Cooperative Sheep wrote:Also, that's too many avoiders to be all scum, so...?

Question Null and void because it was a stupid question.

Cooperative Sheep · Post Post #1331 (ISO) » Thu Jun 15, 2017 7:45 am

In post 1327, Sesq wrote:however, what he has done is try to look like he was being productive, and herein lies a valid scumtell.

How has he tried to 'look' productive? If he has, he's doing a weak job of it unless his goal is to look slightly more productive than other slots, but not particularly productive, in which case he's being very brilliant at it, but I'm not sure I buy that as a conscious strategy even if he is scum since it would require enough skill he could be doing far superior strategies one would think.

In post 1328, Gamma Emerald wrote:Anyone wanna vote Sparkles with me

No, no one does.
The case is pretty weak and you're not pushing it particularly hard.

In post 1329, Vedith wrote:Comment Null and void as both question and comment was stupid.

Your face is stupid, but at least I keep trying.
I think it's a very valid question - you're claiming it as a scumtell, and I'm challenging that claim and asking you to back up your stance.
I'm going to presume inability/unwillingness to do so equates to 'gut' as your best possible answer.

Vedith · Post Post #1332 (ISO) » Thu Jun 15, 2017 7:48 am

In post 1331, Cooperative Sheep wrote:Your face is stupid, but at least I keep trying.
I think it's a very valid question - you're claiming it as a scumtell, and I'm challenging that claim and asking you to back up your stance.
I'm going to presume inability/unwillingness to do so equates to 'gut' as your best possible answer.

Null and void, stupid post.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #1333 (ISO) » Thu Jun 15, 2017 7:49 am

Well I have less time to post but sure I can push it more.
Agent Sparkles initially said they thought either CS and me or alban and Creature were town pairs. This suggests they don't believe in their own protect. What does that suggest beyond scum knowing their claim is fake? In addition to showing their claim is likely bullshit, they went back around when I pressed them on it and said the protects didn't have to be town. He then tries to alternative fact and say that's what he said the whole time. This guy slipped that he's not actually a doctor and has been trying to cover it up with bullshit.

Vedith · Post Post #1334 (ISO) » Thu Jun 15, 2017 7:51 am

I could lynch Sparkles to be honest.

Cooperative Sheep · Post Post #1335 (ISO) » Thu Jun 15, 2017 7:59 am

In post 1332, Vedith wrote:
In post 1331, Cooperative Sheep wrote:Your face is stupid, but at least I keep trying.
I think it's a very valid question - you're claiming it as a scumtell, and I'm challenging that claim and asking you to back up your stance.
I'm going to presume inability/unwillingness to do so equates to 'gut' as your best possible answer.
Null and void, stupid post.

Okay, you win.

Mod: replacing out - apologies.

Vedith · Post Post #1336 (ISO) » Thu Jun 15, 2017 8:02 am

That's up to you.
All the best.

Almost50 · Post Post #1337 (ISO) » Thu Jun 15, 2017 8:42 am

VC 2.12

Sesq

(4): MuttonChopMagic, Titus, Vedith, NotTheRealPaul,

Gamma Emerald

(1): Creature,

Agent Sparkles

(1): Gamma Emerald,

Titus

(1): Cooperative Sheep,

Vedith

(1): alban,

NotTheRealPaul

(1): Sesq,

MuttonChopMagic

(1): Agent Sparkles,

Not Voting

(2): Hellfire Missile, NJAC,
With 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.
*NJAC prodded
*Searching for replacement for Cooperative Sheep

Deadline

: (expired on 2017-06-18 18:00:00)

Vedith · Post Post #1338 (ISO) » Thu Jun 15, 2017 8:45 am

We have 3 people voting in the cops when we have confirmed Scum in docs...
I suggest you 3 think about that for a second.

Vedith · Post Post #1339 (ISO) » Thu Jun 15, 2017 8:46 am

Also i think NJAC is scum.
A worth while lynch tomorrow.

Vedith · Post Post #1340 (ISO) » Thu Jun 15, 2017 8:48 am

Now we can progress the game effectively I want to know why Sesq is a bad lynch from each person not voting.

NJAC · Post Post #1341 (ISO) » Thu Jun 15, 2017 9:04 am

I'm back, going to read...

Vedith · Post Post #1342 (ISO) » Thu Jun 15, 2017 9:05 am

Look forward to it

Agent Sparkles · Post Post #1343 (ISO) » Thu Jun 15, 2017 3:16 pm

Before I get substantive posts out I'd like to point out that I don't oppose the Sesq wagon, she's just not my first priority

Agent Sparkles · Post Post #1344 (ISO) » Thu Jun 15, 2017 3:17 pm

Also deadline is a lot closer than I thought, we need to keep an eye on that

MuttonChopMagic · Post Post #1345 (ISO) » Thu Jun 15, 2017 3:24 pm

sesq is gonna get lynched, still not even trying to help a bit, without being vernose
sheep is prolly gonna get subbed and were gonna probs have 48 hrs after that so deadline really isn't thst close

Titus · Post Post #1346 (ISO) » Thu Jun 15, 2017 5:00 pm

In post 1338, Vedith wrote:We have 3 people voting in the cops when we have confirmed Scum in docs...
I suggest you 3 think about that for a second.

That's yuck.

jjh927 · Post Post #1347 (ISO) » Thu Jun 15, 2017 7:11 pm

In post 1346, Titus wrote:
In post 1338, Vedith wrote:We have 3 people voting in the cops when we have confirmed Scum in docs...
I suggest you 3 think about that for a second.
That's yuck.

Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't the confirmed scum in cops?

jjh927 · Post Post #1348 (ISO) » Thu Jun 15, 2017 7:11 pm

It's literally my predecessor's last post.

Titus · Post Post #1349 (ISO) » Thu Jun 15, 2017 7:46 pm

In post 1347, jjh927 wrote:
In post 1346, Titus wrote:
In post 1338, Vedith wrote:We have 3 people voting in the cops when we have confirmed Scum in docs...
I suggest you 3 think about that for a second.
That's yuck.
Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't the confirmed scum in cops?

No docs. Mutton changed his claim.