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Post Post #650 (ISO) » Thu Jun 15, 2017 2:05 pm

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In post 649, Apricity wrote:Also PSA, I'm a girl.
My apologies. :]
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Post Post #651 (ISO) » Thu Jun 15, 2017 2:05 pm

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VoteCount 2.03
jjh [1]
- Aristophanes
aptil [2]
- Gamma Emerald
MaxwellPuckett [1]
- Apricity
Gamma Emerald [2]
- aptil, Havo
Apricity [2]
- MaxwellPuckett, Fro99er

Not Voting [4]:

Bomberman, jjh927, Raya36, Varsoon

With 11 alive, it takes 6 votes to flip someone's colour.
You have (expired on 2017-06-17 10:00:00) to do so.
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Post Post #652 (ISO) » Thu Jun 15, 2017 2:05 pm

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Also I feel like Gamma has a lot of posts that don't really say much? There's a decent amount of posts but not actually that much content I can grasp.
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Post Post #653 (ISO) » Thu Jun 15, 2017 2:09 pm

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In post 641, MaxwellPuckett wrote:I like your townlist except for Ari and jjh.
Why don't you like these two?
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Post Post #654 (ISO) » Thu Jun 15, 2017 2:11 pm

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Both gave me the sense they didnt want Twoface flipped.
One man's trash talk is another man's treasure talk.
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Post Post #655 (ISO) » Thu Jun 15, 2017 2:14 pm

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Interesting. I'll go back and look at that.

If y'all want to color flip me that's fine, but I'd like to VOTE: Gamma today. The only issue is that iirc Gamma voted Aptil and that's another slot I'm not completely sure about.
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Post Post #656 (ISO) » Thu Jun 15, 2017 2:30 pm

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I remember where I played w Apricity before, knew I recognized her but not from where. She bugged me in Evolution mafia too iirc, and she was town there. Obviously that doesnt make her town here but I don't hate the Gamma scumread and I rly doubt she's scum with him.
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Post Post #657 (ISO) » Thu Jun 15, 2017 2:33 pm

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In post 646, MaxwellPuckett wrote:5 is the tail end of the wagon, why wouldnt scum do that?

Pedit ok frogger but ill still be digging there
Im not reading in terms of teams yet, but im looking at Gamma, Raya, and Havo rn. jjh and Ari idk about but im just not confident they're town. Ari is kinda odd in general tho so Im less sure.
Now that im here I can actually sort through these reads.
I'm not asking you to tealk teams

I'm asking you who your 2nd top scumread is after apricity. There's likely only 2 scum left, so if apricity is one, who's the other if you had to name one (independent of your read on apricity). It gives me an idea of where we can start together.
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Post Post #658 (ISO) » Thu Jun 15, 2017 2:40 pm

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Oh, gotcha.
That'd be Gamma with Havo as a close second. They might swap places Im not sure. What I don't like with havo is the way his reads are forming, it doesnt feel right to me. The reasoning (and explanation) with the Ari feels so specific. Why is 5 a towny place but 6 isn't? I'd even be doubting at 4. Also the discussion about the "win-win" with aptil and Gamma feels false.
Re: Gamma I think apricity is right about him not doing a lot, which I dont usually associate with Gamma.
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Post Post #659 (ISO) » Thu Jun 15, 2017 2:49 pm

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Hey, apologies for not being here for the last few days. Been busy with interviews, work, my laptop's visual output died entirely so I had to get my desktop computer up and running for the first time in several years. On top of that, this weekend is my fiance's birthday and, for the last few days, a friend of mine has been marathoning Game of Thrones with me so I'll be ready for the premiere of Season 7 by this Sunday. I have watched three seasons of Game of Thrones within a 74 hour span. While working. I did not sleep very much.

I bring this all up because I won't be able to have the game presence that I had during D1, especially during this critical Color Reveal phase.

Here are some leads I have and notes I took before:
-Twoface self-voted on his color flip, but did NOT self-vote on his lynch. I figured he self-voted color-wise to deny town information, especially as I brought that up just before he did it. However, if he was trying to deny more info, he would have also self-voted for his actual flip, right? Checking the game rules, scum has daychat during the lynch part of the day--I find it very likely that scum may have been on TwoFace's lynch wagon (for that sickhot towncred) but not his color wagon, especially evidenced by TwoFace allowing for that lynch wagon to have more on it. This is a weak lead, but worth checking out.
-We should be most critical of people that tried to drive the wagon away from TwoFace. There were several moments where other wagons were proposed, iirc.
-I think that it's safe to say that TwoFace was very likely not bussing on D1--It is worth looking at who he voted for colorflip and why. This could give us some leads for players likely to be town.
-The kill was on Infinity; Who/what was Infinity pushing? Was Infinity playing in a way that betrayed their role? Having a protective role go down that early is suspect to me--scum could've gotten lucky, though, in my experience, someone on the team typically catches a crumb or has a meta-gut feeling that the player was a PR. Regardless, we should consider why Infinity was the kill. Notably, they were on the TwoFace color wagon. Why kill on-wagon rather than off?

If other players could look into these leads, I think it would help us a lot.
As of now, I do not have the time to dedicate towards them, and that, honestly, bums me right the fuck out.
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Post Post #660 (ISO) » Thu Jun 15, 2017 2:50 pm

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I think that Aristophanes is town--I noticed some suspicion there earlier today and wanted to get my two-cents in.
As for Apricity, I have no idea and would have to re-read their interactions with the game.
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Post Post #661 (ISO) » Thu Jun 15, 2017 3:07 pm

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Yeah max is definitely town. His thoughts mirror mine re: gamma.

Varsoon I'll take the lead on your wall requests. I'm pretty ingrained in this game.
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Post Post #662 (ISO) » Thu Jun 15, 2017 3:09 pm

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In post 658, MaxwellPuckett wrote:Oh, gotcha.
That'd be Gamma with Havo as a close second. They might swap places Im not sure. What I don't like with havo is the way his reads are forming, it doesnt feel right to me. The reasoning (and explanation) with the Ari feels so specific. Why is 5 a towny place but 6 isn't? I'd even be doubting at 4. Also the discussion about the "win-win" with aptil and Gamma feels false.
Re: Gamma I think apricity is right about him not doing a lot, which I dont usually associate with Gamma.
Because it's a "Tipping" point issue. Think about it, if you were scum would you put the 5th vote on your scum partner when 7 is needed?

And if you think Apricity is right about Gamma, then you think I'm right as well as I pointed it out already.
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Post Post #663 (ISO) » Thu Jun 15, 2017 3:12 pm

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In post 662, Havo wrote:And if you think Apricity is right about Gamma, then you think I'm right as well as I pointed it out already.
do you want a fucking cookie or something?
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Post Post #664 (ISO) » Thu Jun 15, 2017 3:13 pm

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In post 663, Fro99er wrote:
In post 662, Havo wrote:And if you think Apricity is right about Gamma, then you think I'm right as well as I pointed it out already.
do you want a fucking cookie or something?
Peanut Butter preferably.
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Post Post #665 (ISO) » Thu Jun 15, 2017 3:14 pm

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gross
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Post Post #666 (ISO) » Thu Jun 15, 2017 3:14 pm

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666
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Post Post #667 (ISO) » Thu Jun 15, 2017 3:20 pm

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Did people just ignore the fact that Aptil self-voted himself for a minute to feign that he didn't care about being flipped and then backed out and went onto gamma when he 'didn't like his post'

Where would this town be if they didn't have me to speak out on controversial topics like this one
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Post Post #668 (ISO) » Thu Jun 15, 2017 3:21 pm

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did you guys hear something?
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Post Post #669 (ISO) » Thu Jun 15, 2017 3:23 pm

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Something about Apricity tonally is setting me off 2, and I am wondering why she got mad at me for not townreading fro99er/my tone post-color flip but did not engage after
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Post Post #670 (ISO) » Thu Jun 15, 2017 3:23 pm

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In post 389, aptil wrote:UNVOTE:
Again i don't understand this wanting to end this so soon . Two people have hardly even been here .Looks like jj is not an option right now so i would like to .

If the options are Noface and Bomber my vote is on VOTE: Bomberman
In post 390, aptil wrote:Quite honestly i would like someone to unvote on noface's wagon so that we can have raya and maxwell's input before the colour flip.
Although bomber might be right

aptil back in the middle pile
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Post Post #671 (ISO) » Thu Jun 15, 2017 3:29 pm

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In post 669, Bomberman wrote:Something about Apricity tonally is setting me off 2, and I am wondering why she got mad at me for not townreading fro99er/my tone post-color flip but did not engage after
also nobody should ever scum read this (cough JJ)
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Post Post #672 (ISO) » Thu Jun 15, 2017 3:48 pm

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In post 654, MaxwellPuckett wrote:Both gave me the sense they didnt want Twoface flipped.
So I looked, and for Jjh I can see why you feel that because of the whole Bomber issue, but I'm not really seeing this with Ari? More the opposite. Can you elaborate?
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Post Post #673 (ISO) » Thu Jun 15, 2017 3:50 pm

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In post 656, MaxwellPuckett wrote:I remember where I played w Apricity before, knew I recognized her but not from where. She bugged me in Evolution mafia too iirc, and she was town there. Obviously that doesnt make her town here but I don't hate the Gamma scumread and I rly doubt she's scum with him.
Also not relevant but I knew I recognized you from somewhere too! Were you with EP?
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Post Post #674 (ISO) » Thu Jun 15, 2017 4:01 pm

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In post 667, Bomberman wrote:Did people just ignore the fact that Aptil self-voted himself for a minute to feign that he didn't care about being flipped and then backed out and went onto gamma when he 'didn't like his post'

Where would this town be if they didn't have me to speak out on controversial topics like this one
I remember this--I have a little scumread on him. Which still bothers me like I mentioned earlier because I feel that he and Gamma definitely don't go together so it's probably one or the other.

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