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Post Post #1200 (ISO) » Thu Jun 15, 2017 12:32 pm

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In post 1199, Nero Cain wrote:So why doesn't this seem like town Nero then?
In the games I've played/seen with you as Town, you acted very different.
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Post Post #1201 (ISO) » Thu Jun 15, 2017 1:31 pm

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@Mod

I'm going to be V/LA 16th to the 19th of June.
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Post Post #1202 (ISO) » Thu Jun 15, 2017 1:37 pm

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Eh.
Nero might actually be scum
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Post Post #1203 (ISO) » Thu Jun 15, 2017 1:40 pm

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Is the whole case on him meta?

I don't see anybody breaking down his posts explaining why there scummy.

I thought his predesser was really townie looking.
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Post Post #1204 (ISO) » Thu Jun 15, 2017 1:51 pm

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In post 1138, kraska77 wrote:hey guys
do u see whats wrong with this :down: ?
In post 765, Grendel wrote:I want to lynch Backhand, but will consider compromising on {Not_Mafia, Penguin power, Hiraki}
When I say that I'm willing to compromise on a player doesn't mean that I'd want to do it.

When an actual wagon happened on NM I chickened because seeing an actual policy lynch made me paranoid that NM is town vs the don't know and care feeling I had earlier.
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Post Post #1205 (ISO) » Thu Jun 15, 2017 2:13 pm

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In post 1076, Cheetory6 wrote:Eh.
VOTE: CCC
I really don't like this post:
CCC wrote:My thoughts on the current top wagons:

Not_Mafia is a policy lynch. He's been pretty near silent. Then he put on two votes, claimed a gut scumread on Cheet and gave no explanation of the Gamma vote, and said Nero was town. That's a pretty pathetically minimal contribution to the state of the game, especially since having caught up, I suspect that the reason behind the Gamma vote was self-preservation (which is NAI because all roles benefit from self-preservation).

Gamma actually looks like scum for a variety of reasons, which I have gone over before.

So, I suspect that Not_Mafia is scum's mislynch for today. It's an easy wagon to push, since it's a policy lynch for a genuinely super-quiet player. It's also a wagon that does not reflect badly on scum-on-the-wagon if the slot flips Town. Therefore, I think that the only reason Not_Mafia's wagon has progressed so far, is that there is scum on it; if Not_Mafia is lynched today and flips Town, then I would recommend taking a very close look at everyone on that wagon tomorrow.

Currently, my vote is staying on Gamma/kraska77.
There's a lot that feels off with this post.
*Especially the "tomorrow I will pick at the wagon". Seems a lot more like setup for tomorrow than a genuine interest in parsing the wagon itself, especially since there's nothing specific being unpacked here.*
Also don't like the declaration of N_M being a policy lynch. The confidence there feels a little like it's coming from a place of too much information.
CCC wrote:Because I'm Town?

I don't know how Cheetory's recognising that, mind you.
Also don't really like this post!
I'm kind of sucking at putting my feelings to thoughts tonight, but this is probably the only thing I feel anything for right now. If I have energy tomorrow I'll put more effort into sorting this if it doesn't just become a wagon.
The bolded portion is 100% how CCC thinks all the time. "Spare the unconfirmed and talk of the future where things are confirmed"

I think sounding "confidant" of a mislynch while not reading the players on a wagon, or breaking the wagon up, is an underlying commentary that CCC isn't that confidant at all. I don't disagree with your intal impression... normally that's a good point. However in this instance I think this isn't a correct.

I don't get the issue with the second post.
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Post Post #1206 (ISO) » Thu Jun 15, 2017 2:16 pm

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In post 1205, Grendel wrote:
In post 1076, Cheetory6 wrote:Eh.
VOTE: CCC
I really don't like this post:
CCC wrote:My thoughts on the current top wagons:

Not_Mafia is a policy lynch. He's been pretty near silent. Then he put on two votes, claimed a gut scumread on Cheet and gave no explanation of the Gamma vote, and said Nero was town. That's a pretty pathetically minimal contribution to the state of the game, especially since having caught up, I suspect that the reason behind the Gamma vote was self-preservation (which is NAI because all roles benefit from self-preservation).

Gamma actually looks like scum for a variety of reasons, which I have gone over before.

So, I suspect that Not_Mafia is scum's mislynch for today. It's an easy wagon to push, since it's a policy lynch for a genuinely super-quiet player. It's also a wagon that does not reflect badly on scum-on-the-wagon if the slot flips Town. Therefore, I think that the only reason Not_Mafia's wagon has progressed so far, is that there is scum on it; if Not_Mafia is lynched today and flips Town, then I would recommend taking a very close look at everyone on that wagon tomorrow.

Currently, my vote is staying on Gamma/kraska77.
There's a lot that feels off with this post.
*
Especially the "tomorrow I will pick at the wagon". Seems a lot more like setup for tomorrow than a genuine interest in parsing the wagon itself, especially since there's nothing specific being unpacked here.
*
Also don't like the declaration of N_M being a policy lynch. The confidence there feels a little like it's coming from a place of too much information.
CCC wrote:Because I'm Town?

I don't know how Cheetory's recognising that, mind you.
Also don't really like this post!
I'm kind of sucking at putting my feelings to thoughts tonight, but this is probably the only thing I feel anything for right now. If I have energy tomorrow I'll put more effort into sorting this if it doesn't just become a wagon.
The bolded portion is 100% how CCC thinks all the time. "Spare the unconfirmed and talk of the future where things are confirmed"

I think sounding "confidant" of a mislynch while not reading the players on a wagon, or breaking the wagon up, is an underlying commentary that CCC isn't that confidant at all. I don't disagree with your intal impression... normally that's a good point. However in this instance I think this isn't a correct.

I don't get the issue with the second post.
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Post Post #1207 (ISO) » Thu Jun 15, 2017 3:05 pm

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Vote Count 1.16

kraska77 (4): CCC, SlingshotWaffles, Nero Cain, MuttonChopMagic
CCC (3): Hiraki, PenguinPower, NotTheRealPaul
PenguinPower (2): Cheetory6, Backhand
Nero Cain (2): kraska77, Not_Mafia
Not_Mafia (1): DeathRowKitty
Backhand (1): Grendel

Not Voting (0): No one


With 13 alive, it takes 7 votes to lynch.
Deadline is on Friday, June 16th at 5:00 PM PST, in (expired on 2017-06-16 20:00:00).
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Post Post #1208 (ISO) » Thu Jun 15, 2017 3:09 pm

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deadline in 21
literally any lynch would be fun
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Post Post #1209 (ISO) » Thu Jun 15, 2017 3:13 pm

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Ugh...I hate how this day has gone. Vanity votes need to move. If you wanna vote me, I'll help.

kraska is probably scum. Totally different player than I've seen before, and I hated gamma.

VOTE: kraska
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Post Post #1210 (ISO) » Thu Jun 15, 2017 3:14 pm

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nah

VOTE: CCC

Need to be competing wagons for now.
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Post Post #1211 (ISO) » Thu Jun 15, 2017 3:22 pm

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In post 1152, CCC wrote:I went back and checked - you're scumreading me because I thought Gamma had copied my readslist?
I HAVE LITERALLY NEVER SAID THIS
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Post Post #1212 (ISO) » Thu Jun 15, 2017 3:22 pm

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nah, there doesn't need to be. 21 hours is when we make sure there's A LYNCH OF SOME SORT... do I need to pray?
Kraska is not l-1 or l-2, you agree that slot is scum, voting ccc for the purpose of building a wagon is not something worth while this late in the day.
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Post Post #1213 (ISO) » Thu Jun 15, 2017 3:23 pm

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I can switch to kraska but I won't feel good about it
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Post Post #1214 (ISO) » Thu Jun 15, 2017 3:25 pm

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what other wagon are you thinking of?
this is not the time to be pussyfooting bruv
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Post Post #1215 (ISO) » Thu Jun 15, 2017 3:51 pm

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VOTE: kraska

There's scum in the vanities tho.
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Post Post #1216 (ISO) » Thu Jun 15, 2017 6:11 pm

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Berocain is being shittingly obvious scum but they don't even
Not even gonna bother campaign for that lynch, this town is shit
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Post Post #1217 (ISO) » Thu Jun 15, 2017 6:24 pm

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Click on nerocains iso, he only pops his head in the thread to defend himself, and whenever pressed for reads he says dunno could be scumcould be town
Fking a

That is. If you are interested in lynching scum. Also down for a ccc lynch if that is still happening, i really don't want to have to deal with both waffles and ccc again tom. They get on my nerves
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Post Post #1218 (ISO) » Thu Jun 15, 2017 6:34 pm

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I won't check this thread later so this is my last post today.
Nerocain is scum, grwndel reeks of scum. Not sure who would make most sense as third buddy in this kind of team line-up. Can't tell apart shitty town from scum

And yes I don't plan on claiming anything
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Post Post #1219 (ISO) » Thu Jun 15, 2017 8:00 pm

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And I find it kinda funny, I find it kinda sad

who's scum
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Post Post #1220 (ISO) » Thu Jun 15, 2017 9:14 pm

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In post 1217, kraska77 wrote:Click on nerocains iso, he only pops his head in the thread to defend himself, and whenever pressed for reads he says dunno could be scumcould be town
Fking a

That is. If you are interested in lynching scum. Also down for a ccc lynch if that is still happening, i really don't want to have to deal with both waffles and ccc again tom. They get on my nerves
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Post Post #1221 (ISO) » Fri Jun 16, 2017 12:52 am

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In post 1216, kraska77 wrote:Berocain is being shittingly obvious scum but they don't even
Not even gonna bother campaign for that lynch, this town is shit
I liked it better when you were memey and not elitist.
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Post Post #1222 (ISO) » Fri Jun 16, 2017 12:56 am

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Sorry,
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Post Post #1223 (ISO) » Fri Jun 16, 2017 1:04 am

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Sokay.
Tbh I think if I had a little more time to poke at Nero I would be able to place him and feel good about it, but I'm scared that there's not enough time.
q.q

Have you played with Nero before?
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Post Post #1224 (ISO) » Fri Jun 16, 2017 1:12 am

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Yes
But I'm not just going off meta here, bc I don't really remember much(other than he seemed really assertive and stubborn)

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