Open 688: Diffusion of Power (Game Over)

[jjh927]

So he's got a scummy towngame, and that worries you?
Because he might be a mislynch? But here's the issue-
If his towngame's scummy, then his scumgame is too.

[MuttonChopMagic]

and what is the benefit to scum!Alban claiming n1 doc there?
it just doesn't make sense when or where

[jjh927]

For a start, you seem to townread him for it.
That's already enough incentive,
but also consider his action's now gone,
and he can sit on that till the game is done.
Next up, scum won't target those with no actions,
so lynching those slots is their best reaction.
Lastly it makes it much harder to guess
who the real night kill was inside of that mess.

[Titus]

Alban might be scum but sesq is also scum.

[jjh927]

Talk me through it, Titus.

[Titus]

If you have a scum you feel you won't get lynched, look at whom they call scummy but yet aren't voting.

[jjh927]

Shit you can talk me through it anyway but I'm now super concerned about sesq and the Sheep/Navy slot too at where I just caught up to.

[Titus]

Alban isn't voting sesq but he wanted credit no?

[jjh927]

So, let's go back to our wagon;

CommKnight (7)

: Agent Sparkles, Cooperative Sheep, NotTheRealPaul, Sesq, MuttonChopMagic, Hellfire Missile, LunaeCinere,
Sparkles is the wagon starter and a claimed Doc (the first at that) and thus is, guardedly, a reasonable rule out on both points.
I rule myself out.
I have a decent town read on NTRP.
Sesq is the counter wagon, but if I was to wager on an early scum he'd be my bet, but it feels dicey as a guess.
Mutton was a town lean coming into the day, and I guardedly stand by that assessment after his push on me as it somewhat vibes me as stubborn town who thinks they're right rather than scum being desperate, though I'll admit I find myself internally debating this every day, but...eh.
Hellfire is a non-entity who had a bad reason for his vote and has supplied no real thoughts on the game.
Lunae's vote was also bad, but I personally feel that scum prefer a spot prior to hammer.

So on that wagon my logic says Hellfire > Lunae > Sesq/Mutton though I may be conflicted on the Lunae/Sesq positions and neither slot is bothering to do much so it's hard to get a sort feel for them. Thus, at this stage due to wagon theory and his vote position, I wish to lynch Hellfire.

Do you understand my stance better now?

This post, specifically the bit I've quoted, and more specifically the "Sesq is the counter wagon, but if I was to wager on an early scum he'd be my bet, but it feels dicey as a guess." bit, is utter shit. Sesq was counterwagon TO TOWN. That is exactly where wagon analysis should take you and if Sheep was basing anything off of wagon analysis but is being hazy about suspecting Sesq for it while keeping his options open, that's one hell of an associative.

I will want to talk with Navy before I vote her slot, but lynching sesq gives her plenty of time to catch up.

I'd like to talk with sesq before I vote her slot too, but I only need to wait for her to show up for that.

UNVOTE:

Gonna drop Alban for now.

[Vedith]

Alban is a terrible lynch. Out of the 3 doc claims his was the most consistent the most obvious target and the most genuine.

I suggest jjh reads Albans iso, gets an understanding of their view in the game.
See they claimed to have saved Creature who looked pretty town previously and I'm pretty sure claimed last out of the 3 day 1 docs.

That reasoning alone buys he immunity from today's lynch.

However, you fuck nuggets are distracting the game just like C Sheep did so others can sit around and do nothing.

I'm okay with lynching away from Sesq because Sesq could just be lost town trying to not look defeated... but the fact that only 4 votes sit there suggest that this is Scum And we have both useless inactive town and Scum just avoiding taking a stance.

Now I'm happy with whoever said earlier they will vote if needed (sparkles maybe) but anyone not voting Sesq I want a town reason for not doing so, and anyone not voting or pushing doc, you need to start doing this.

[jjh927]

Excuse me, but are you accusing me of being a fuck nugget who is distracting the game? I'm placing people here. I need to talk to people. And I'm absolutely not letting others sit around and do nothing because I'm going to talk to people in order to place them. We have time to talk and I am planning to use it.

[Titus]

Hi town jjh. How are you?

[jjh927]

I'm pretty good. I must say you look pretty towny yourself. You?

[Vedith]

Excuse me, but are you accusing me of being a fuck nugget who is distracting the game? I'm placing people here. I need to talk to people. And I'm absolutely not letting others sit around and do nothing because I'm going to talk to people in order to place them. We have time to talk and I am planning to use it.

I mean more Mutton for not just answering your post and trying to be a pain in the arse.
But sure you can be a fuck nugget too for going along with it.

(I don't care if you disagree and to save a post battle let's just say you're right and I'm wrong).

If we find a Scum in the docs today, then NJAC can be tomorrow. I'm pretty confident this is Scum him.

Why do you not prefer a Sesq lynch, again?

[jjh927]

Oh, I'm happy enough with a sesq lynch when I'm ready for one but I still have things to do and people to place.

[MuttonChopMagic]

fuck my nugget but plug it

jj can be town I think
I haven't played with njac before but he's p towny ya dink
my strongest scum reads are all docs so regardless of sesq flip I'll probs keep lynching there
when I think of how sheep and sparkles both played and how 1 at least is probs town im scared

[Titus]

I'm pretty good. I must say you look pretty towny yourself. You?

Tired lols. Missing my friend on the sesq wagon, but super glad he's here.

[jjh927]

Ooh, MuttonChopMagic is an alt. Okay. I think I know who he is.

[Almost50]

Hellfire Missile is being force replaced.

[Almost50]

Mathblade to the rescue

[MathBlade]

Will read super late tonight. Watching movies with friends someone want to catch me up?

[Titus]

Guaranteed scum in doc claimers, so I'm not voting you today.

Bad news for you, Hellfire looks like scum and we're lynching Sesq.

[jjh927]

I'm completely caught up now.

Townreads: Mutton, Titus, Gamma, Vedith
Townleans: Sparkles
Nulls: NotTheRealPaul
Scumleans: Alban, Hellfire/Math, NJAC
Scumreads: Sheep/Navy, Sesq

[MathBlade]

@mod is a deadline extension possible considering replacements?

TBH, I don't see anyone making use of the time they had, but I'll consider adding another 72 hours if you promise to get the game moving.

P.S. I'm not being a dick. It's just that more time could potentially mean more replacements required.

VC 2.13

Sesq

(4): MuttonChopMagic, Titus, Vedith, NotTheRealPaul,

Gamma Emerald

(1): jjh927,

Agent Sparkles

(1): Gamma Emerald,

Titus

(1): Navy,

Vedith

(1): alban,

NotTheRealPaul

(1): Sesq,

MuttonChopMagic

(1): Agent Sparkles,

Not Voting

(2): Hellfire Missile, NJAC,
With 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

*Added 72 hours to deadline.

Deadline

: (expired on 2017-06-21 18:00:00)[/area]

I would love an additional 24 personally but I leave it up to mod Almighty

[MathBlade]

A bit confused on the yellow though. If you added 72 already please disregard.