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Post Post #50 (isolation #0) » Fri May 05, 2017 4:08 am

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I have an egopost wheeeee.
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Post Post #52 (isolation #1) » Fri May 05, 2017 4:14 am

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I am a large fan of this show! If anyone does NOT know the flavor, the show is available free of charge on crunchyroll: http://www.crunchyroll.com/a-certain-scientific-railgun

It's worth the 26 episodes of watch time, for sure. The entire index-verse is, really.
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Post Post #56 (isolation #2) » Fri May 05, 2017 5:50 am

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I'm a mason with Alisae, by the way.
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Post Post #71 (isolation #3) » Fri May 05, 2017 10:30 am

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In post 59, Reasonable Doubt wrote:I shall throw reasonable doubt on Cabd's mason claim.

#joke
Dunno why, we have a PM-Only masonry; he even showed me a copy of my role PM so we're informed with each other. No doubt needed!
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Post Post #89 (isolation #4) » Fri May 05, 2017 2:08 pm

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VOTE: gerrygoat
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Post Post #90 (isolation #5) » Fri May 05, 2017 2:09 pm

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In post 88, Torque wrote:
In post 86, gerryoat wrote:honestly me not knowing if game started not or yet is NAI i wouldnt know as mafia or town. so dont really see th eneed to look into it much
Agreed, not a town slip in any way. Though this post feels
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townie tonally.
It's really really not. Coming from a first time player, maaayabe. From a player who has been around a while, absolutely not.
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Post Post #92 (isolation #6) » Fri May 05, 2017 2:27 pm

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Yeah hang on i'll pull examples.
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Post Post #95 (isolation #7) » Fri May 05, 2017 2:40 pm

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Fucking hell MFW it's a pain in the ass to go through my old scumgames. Anyways "challenging a weakly gained town read to solidify it" is something out my scum playbook and now I'm really mad our database searching sucks and I can't find examples.
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Post Post #96 (isolation #8) » Fri May 05, 2017 2:41 pm

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Meh I guess Titus is really the only person who was around for my older set of games and would remember it.
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Post Post #98 (isolation #9) » Fri May 05, 2017 2:44 pm

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I guess you'll have to if accountant won't accept second hand stories.
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Post Post #101 (isolation #10) » Fri May 05, 2017 3:05 pm

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Because it's a way of turning a weak or exploratory towntell into a stronger towntell for "free" and it's a part of my scum playbook for that exact reason? Not just gerry but anyone who isn't fresh out of road to rome/etc.
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Post Post #104 (isolation #11) » Fri May 05, 2017 3:19 pm

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In post 86, gerryoat wrote:
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me not knowing if game started not or yet is NAI i wouldnt know as mafia or town. so dont really see th eneed to look into it much
Matter had already been "settled" by accountant saying they accepted it:
In post 85, Accountant wrote:ok i accept your answer

But Gerry felt a specific need to emphasize how honest and casual he's being about it. Basic liespotting into to psych 101.
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Post Post #217 (isolation #12) » Sun May 07, 2017 2:30 pm

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Nothing I've seen so far is a compelling reason for me to think it WASN'T scum motivated. And the back and forth of the nuance is un-interesting at best for content. Although it does have me convinced that XnadrojX is a person f conviction. If that's town conviction or just good scum play, I am as of yet unsure.

That said; If I was going to be voting elsewhere I'd be at Torque or Carnelian. And probably more Torque because he's actually been a round a bit more and has chosen not to weigh in whatsoever.
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Post Post #237 (isolation #13) » Mon May 08, 2017 4:08 am

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In post 218, Accountant wrote:Cabd engage me on Gamma plz
Tonight, didn't miss this, just working.
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Post Post #324 (isolation #14) » Tue May 09, 2017 11:31 am

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Sorry accountant I fell asleep last night oops. Tonight. Will you be online in about... four hours?
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Post Post #348 (isolation #15) » Tue May 09, 2017 2:06 pm

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In post 237, Cabd wrote:
In post 218, Accountant wrote:Cabd engage me on Gamma plz
Tonight, didn't miss this, just working.
Gamma feels town to me, Accountant, and here's why:

It feels like he's shooting from the hip with nothing withheld.


Scum Gamma is capable of shooting from the hip; but you can usually smell the hesitation or small pauses in the flow of braindump.

Although Gamma, 294 was a little silly; that was OBVIOUSLY me stoking Alisae's ego and a reference to how he stole my opener in a game of his own. There's no intent behind that post because it was witty banter. (Also it was obvious but it went over your head, whatever)
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Post Post #349 (isolation #16) » Tue May 09, 2017 2:11 pm

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Titus. I know you're feeling disengaged. Take my hand and let's chat.
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Post Post #353 (isolation #17) » Tue May 09, 2017 3:15 pm

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Or not. In the morning then, for both of you.
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Post Post #357 (isolation #18) » Tue May 09, 2017 3:17 pm

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In post 354, Gamma Emerald wrote:Cabd can we talk?
I'm mobile only but I'll be up for a little bit. What's up?
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Post Post #359 (isolation #19) » Tue May 09, 2017 3:20 pm

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I'd only call it alignment indicative if he's been posting elsewhere or you have something that leads you to believe he has been on site or paying attention. On mobile so I don't really feel like checking his activity with a search but you are welcome to do that.
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Post Post #360 (isolation #20) » Tue May 09, 2017 3:20 pm

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Flaking in and of itself isn't really a good indicator of motive. It's the actions once you flake and come back and make up for that flaming that's important.
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Post Post #362 (isolation #21) » Tue May 09, 2017 3:24 pm

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Ah now that does make it concerning. Very concerning given iirc the most recent post was a few days ago here.
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Post Post #363 (isolation #22) » Tue May 09, 2017 3:26 pm

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Given setup rule #2; I imagine if he is mafia that his team is upset with him as well. If he were to flip scum I'd be looking for people who seem short tempered with him right now but aren't actively calling him out.

But lurking in one game in and of itself isn't a pure scumtell, and I'll have to do some looking into him myself in the morning.


Does that answer your question?
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Post Post #365 (isolation #23) » Tue May 09, 2017 3:29 pm

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Why do you think the wagon on you has so many votes, and why am I right to think that it is a bad wagon?
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Post Post #366 (isolation #24) » Tue May 09, 2017 3:29 pm

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And In general who on your wagon do you to read the most?
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Post Post #368 (isolation #25) » Tue May 09, 2017 3:33 pm

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There's four players on your wagon, right? If you had to bet everything on a single town read, who of those four would it be?
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Post Post #370 (isolation #26) » Tue May 09, 2017 3:40 pm

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Can you unpack your reasoning for that?
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Post Post #379 (isolation #27) » Wed May 10, 2017 3:07 am

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In post 372, Titus wrote:Cabd, you have D1
What is this in reference to?
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Post Post #381 (isolation #28) » Wed May 10, 2017 4:19 am

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Dunno what you're talking about, in the non-bizzaro universe that game ended on day five with Pine's lynch. And then we went and watched President Clinton hug puppies and not be an asshole on national TV.
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Post Post #383 (isolation #29) » Wed May 10, 2017 5:02 am

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Accountant does my heart mean nothing to you? I engaged ya on gamma and not a peep.
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Post Post #386 (isolation #30) » Wed May 10, 2017 5:09 am

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[quote="In post 384, Accountant"][/quote]
I just figured we'd get more convo than "yeah sure cabd, lemme unvote"
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Post Post #388 (isolation #31) » Wed May 10, 2017 5:12 am

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I don't like that he got a majority of townreads from it then effectively doubled down on the style. Your current vote isn't bad either though; it's a coasting slot right now.
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Post Post #389 (isolation #32) » Wed May 10, 2017 5:12 am

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In post 387, Accountant wrote:What d'you want me to say? I look at your reasoning, read Gamma's posts, line it up with my own gutfeel. Everything seems to be in order, so let's go ahead and unvote.
I mean you skipped the date entirely. At least make up for it with a bag of chocolates and a sorry note!~
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Post Post #391 (isolation #33) » Wed May 10, 2017 5:17 am

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But really; talk to me about day one. Hating it is no reason not to have at least initial reads. You mentioned a linked read with Gamma. Do you think it still holds?
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Post Post #397 (isolation #34) » Wed May 10, 2017 6:08 am

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In post 395, Accountant wrote:
In post 389, Cabd wrote:
In post 387, Accountant wrote:What d'you want me to say? I look at your reasoning, read Gamma's posts, line it up with my own gutfeel. Everything seems to be in order, so let's go ahead and unvote.
I mean you skipped the date entirely. At least make up for it with a bag of chocolates and a sorry note!~
Fiiine, but they have raisins in them.
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Post Post #399 (isolation #35) » Wed May 10, 2017 6:12 am

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In post 396, Accountant wrote:Can you specify what style you mean, how gerry got townreads from it, and how he doubled down?
IIRC:

Two people said he was town for the initial act.
I said he was scum for it.
The rest said it was NAI.

"Doubling down" might be strong terms but 107/108 make me squeemish about it. The "casually being center of attention act" is the style I meant.
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Post Post #400 (isolation #36) » Wed May 10, 2017 6:12 am

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In post 398, Gamma Emerald wrote:I very rarely like raisins
I'll eat craisins though.
Boozy dried fruit is the best.
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Post Post #404 (isolation #37) » Wed May 10, 2017 7:01 am

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... Okay then.
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Post Post #416 (isolation #38) » Wed May 10, 2017 11:38 am

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Who is Yume? Is that an alt or something? I'm lost.
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Post Post #422 (isolation #39) » Wed May 10, 2017 4:08 pm

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@mod can we request you prod carmelion or however you spell it?
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Post Post #447 (isolation #40) » Thu May 11, 2017 5:35 am

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Accountant/others, can you provide insight if Yume/whatever's flaking is alignment indicative or are they just a serial flaker?
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Post Post #452 (isolation #41) » Thu May 11, 2017 6:11 am

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LMAO okay.
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Post Post #460 (isolation #42) » Thu May 11, 2017 12:29 pm

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Was Yume/Carnelian posting elsewhere on the site at that time? Note the distinction.
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Post Post #467 (isolation #43) » Thu May 11, 2017 12:45 pm

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In post 465, Fro99er wrote:Yume has other alts they were posting under.....
In post 416, Cabd wrote:Who is Yume? Is that an alt or something? I'm lost.
You'll note I didn't know who those alts were. I never bothered checking though so that's on me. Guess I figured accountant would sum it up for me.
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Post Post #514 (isolation #44) » Fri May 12, 2017 6:11 am

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Frog just so we're clear I'm not saying that the... uh fuck it i'm calling it magic slot because kepeing track of names is hard.

The magic slot is just as concerning now that I'm fully aware of the circumstances. Nowhere did I say it wasn't.

The game sorta sped past me before that cleared up. You're welcome to ask me further on it. That said, both slots seem to have picked up activity either with new owners or renewed voice. Not to say that this diminishes what hapened before, but it's not solid enough to form an unshakable read in and of itself. Gerry's coasting, on the other hand, is enough of a continuing thing for me to do so.
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Post Post #515 (isolation #45) » Fri May 12, 2017 6:12 am

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Also @ CA peeps; I used to be Fresno, but I moved to Chicago area a few years back so good luck with that meetup thing.
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Post Post #517 (isolation #46) » Fri May 12, 2017 6:15 am

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LMAO. "Magic" being the slot that's been replaced twice now. I keep forgetting who is actually in it. "Kelvin SMith" now I think. Too many alts/proxies to keep track of that occupied it.
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Post Post #518 (isolation #47) » Fri May 12, 2017 6:21 am

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I'll probably condense my reads into a list tonight.

Gamma's as good as a top townread as one gets for right now.

Titus is really starting to worry me. Her uninvolvement even after a direct reach out is odd to say the least.
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Post Post #780 (isolation #48) » Sun May 14, 2017 4:34 pm

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Posting to pick up prod, hear from me tomorrow. Long weekend of "by the way your brother is moving in with you a week early dealwithit.jpg"
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Post Post #846 (isolation #49) » Mon May 15, 2017 11:09 am

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UNVOTE:

Titus; if I'm choosing between you or Wisdom right now I'm lynching you, it feels like you're making up for your lack of engagement as scum by finding somebody to tunnel to emulate your usual self right now.
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Post Post #847 (isolation #50) » Mon May 15, 2017 11:10 am

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{Areo, Wisdom, Gamma} is my town block right now.
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Post Post #934 (isolation #51) » Tue May 16, 2017 8:50 am

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Wis, you're being a little obtuse man. Go ahead and unpack it, I know it hurts but yeah.
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Post Post #947 (isolation #52) » Wed May 17, 2017 1:53 am

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In post 938, Wisdom wrote:
In post 934, Cabd wrote:Wis, you're being a little obtuse man. Go ahead and unpack it, I know it hurts but yeah.
youre not voting titus yet
I used to be, yeah. I'm really not these days. Married life, etc etc. Time drags don't work anymore.

Here...
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NOW will you stop being so goddamn stubbornly obtuse?
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Post Post #960 (isolation #53) » Wed May 17, 2017 5:04 am

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In post 954, Titus wrote:
In post 947, Cabd wrote:
In post 938, Wisdom wrote:
In post 934, Cabd wrote:Wis, you're being a little obtuse man. Go ahead and unpack it, I know it hurts but yeah.
youre not voting titus yet
I used to be, yeah. I'm really not these days. Married life, etc etc. Time drags don't work anymore.

Here...
UNVOTE:
VOTE: Titus

NOW will you stop being so goddamn stubbornly obtuse?
Why do you think giving Wisdom what he wants will suddenly make him less obtuse?

Wisdom is basically Infinity from our last game but better at it.

The only reassurance that I am getting from this is most if not all the scum are already on the wagon.
This is the weakest response from you at somebody you think is town voting you I've seen from you almost ever. Why are you rolling over? I'd expect town you to be stark mad I'd vote you and telling me why not. IDGI.
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Post Post #961 (isolation #54) » Wed May 17, 2017 5:05 am

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In post 959, Accountant wrote:
In post 957, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 946, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 944, Accountant wrote:Torque is probscum based on neighbourhood posts

I just want everyone to know that
What?
Also I wanna hear more about this.
In the morning. On mobile and don't care to dissect posts on a mobile device
Also curious about this, should be allowed to post before anyone were to lolhammer or anything of the sort. Not that I think anyone here is that sort, for once.
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Post Post #986 (isolation #55) » Wed May 17, 2017 5:41 am

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Side note:

Alisae comes from a school of thought that follows mine; The entire list of possible "good characters" was likely randomized and the top X amount skimmed off to reserve for fake claims. Not a single character claim is unlynchable OR automatically town, unless it's an activatable innocent child.
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Post Post #1062 (isolation #56) » Wed May 17, 2017 8:04 am

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UNVOTE:

Does anyone else, without claiming the full part of their role, have an unblockable modifier? This is important.
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Post Post #1064 (isolation #57) » Wed May 17, 2017 8:07 am

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I'd like an answer form everyone a simple yes/no before we move on. Super important. Like.. "Directly can confirm the alignment of a player D1" important.
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Post Post #1080 (isolation #58) » Wed May 17, 2017 11:31 am

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In post 1078, gerryoat wrote:Makes sense. I think this means maf has a RBer if titus is unblockable. Why claim the unblockable part now though?
They might but I doubt it.
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Post Post #1082 (isolation #59) » Wed May 17, 2017 11:43 am

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Wait until everyone answers.
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Post Post #1085 (isolation #60) » Wed May 17, 2017 1:01 pm

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It is VITAL everyone answer me ASAP. Note our deadline!
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Post Post #1088 (isolation #61) » Wed May 17, 2017 3:13 pm

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I'm not. But read my posts and it should be semi-obvious why I'm asking.
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Post Post #1090 (isolation #62) » Wed May 17, 2017 3:20 pm

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Then sit in the corner and wait for the rest to chime in. It'll be obvious soon enough.
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Post Post #1092 (isolation #63) » Wed May 17, 2017 3:26 pm

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Those that have answered...
Accountant: Blockable
Titus: Not blockable
Torque: Refuses to Answer
Gamma Emerald: Blockable
Edosurist: Blockable

Those that have not, please do so, as I said above, this means having a clear day one most likely.

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Post Post #1097 (isolation #64) » Wed May 17, 2017 3:30 pm

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Like.. 1 day, 12 hours? Ish?
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Post Post #1100 (isolation #65) » Wed May 17, 2017 3:35 pm

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Just so we're clear, Titus. If my theory is right and I can semi-clear you; you'd better not fucking let somebody like pine pocket you again, okay?
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Post Post #1133 (isolation #66) » Thu May 18, 2017 3:34 pm

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I'm not willing to believe me about Titus until the rest of people answer, and. Y no means is it a clear up until everyone has answered. And a pattern matches my suspicions.
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Post Post #1135 (isolation #67) » Thu May 18, 2017 3:49 pm

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Titus to answer that would be telling before everyone responds. Which ruins the info.
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Post Post #1138 (isolation #68) » Thu May 18, 2017 3:54 pm

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Unfortunately until everyone answers the entire thing is useless.

Deadline is approaching and people aren't chiming in. I may have to just out what I know and let people come to their own decision. Id rather not though so people fucking answer.
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Post Post #1139 (isolation #69) » Thu May 18, 2017 3:57 pm

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13 hours... With several yet to chime in. Unfortunate. I can't risk a no lynch. People have a few hours to chime in before I just go do the thing.
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Post Post #1150 (isolation #70) » Fri May 19, 2017 2:23 am

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My role PM hints there's an unlockable of each alignment with flavor text. It was my hope that I could then effectively gladiate titus with the other person. That won't work. I'd get into more detail but there's no point. My flip will likely reveal more when it happens.
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Post Post #1166 (isolation #71) » Fri May 19, 2017 3:48 am

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In post 1155, Torque wrote:Fuck

What's Titus at, l-2?

Cabd, mind outing the flavour for the unblock able stuff?
It has to do with people who hate milk.
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Post Post #1188 (isolation #72) » Fri May 19, 2017 4:01 am

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Uh possible but I'd expect it to be MAR and like... The little gangs they leaked stuff to. I'd expect kiyama to be a scummy sounding town role
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Post Post #1192 (isolation #73) » Fri May 19, 2017 4:04 am

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In post 1187, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 1182, gerryoat wrote:I believe cabd when he says there is only one unblockable, so that means you're scum. Maf has to try and kill me to find my role
He says there are 2 but 1 is mafia
My role HINTS this not explicitly stated it.
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Post Post #1205 (isolation #74) » Fri May 19, 2017 4:14 am

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Have to go to my brothers gradation. I won't be back in time. Lynching Titus is better than no lynch.

I leave the rest in torques hands.
UNVOTE:
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Post Post #1233 (isolation #75) » Sun May 21, 2017 8:09 am

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I'm at my brother's graduation party. Will have a keyboard soon. That was weird, my role hints that there's only one of each, so either there's fuckery or Gerry is just scum.
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Post Post #1278 (isolation #76) » Mon May 22, 2017 6:06 am

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Checking in from mobile, still not home for another 32ish hours. Asking ALisae how explicityly I can quyote vs reword to not get modkilled.
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Post Post #1279 (isolation #77) » Mon May 22, 2017 6:18 am

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Something along the lines of "One who can resist the power of your milky fighting is incredibly rare, but found on both sides"

That's super-paraphrased until I get a more specific answer from ALisae on how close to a quote I can get.

It made it pretty obvious that there'd be one of each alignment that can resist blocking; so if gerrygoat is town then the phrasing of my role PM is misleading as fuck.

(At this point it should be obvious both who I am and what my role IS, but I won't be explicitly stating such in case scum has no flavor experts)
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Post Post #1280 (isolation #78) » Mon May 22, 2017 6:28 am

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Getting on a redeye flight in a few hours so if anyone has any urgent questions now'd be the time.
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Post Post #1286 (isolation #79) » Mon May 22, 2017 8:49 am

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In post 1283, gerryoat wrote:I'm guessing maf has a RBer, and I'm guessing a strongman.
Probably not and probably. In that order.
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Post Post #1287 (isolation #80) » Mon May 22, 2017 4:35 pm

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Jesus not a single post for me after I get off the plane? Why the fuck why is this so dead.
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Post Post #1296 (isolation #81) » Tue May 23, 2017 7:16 am

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In post 1293, Edosurist wrote:@frog But "found on both sides" could mean there are multiple on both sides. Gerry could also be town amd the unblockable scum didn't disclose that they were unblockable.
I cannot quote the original wording but it was slightly more hinty that it's only like one of each.

I did state that it wasn't perfect info by any means several times; but it was the best we had to go on at the moment.
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Post Post #1332 (isolation #82) » Wed May 24, 2017 4:27 am

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Alisae keeps giving me smarmy answers to questions of me trying to game the flavor to get more info out of him. It might have been a red herring at which point sorry, ghost of Titus...

I still hold that there's somebody on the scumteam with the unblockable modifier though. Just don't know who it'd be, flavor-wise. I'm assuming the scumteam has a jailkeeper in the leader of MAR.
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Post Post #1334 (isolation #83) » Wed May 24, 2017 5:24 am

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True. I'd assumed it was gonna follow the first seasons given that this is a standalone game, but ITEM could also be involved. If that's the case... I'll have to jog my memory while not at work.
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Post Post #1361 (isolation #84) » Wed May 24, 2017 12:29 pm

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Yeah Gerry's progression makes sense in hindsight. At least, it's not something I'm willing to lynch him over in and of itself. I'm just sore at Alisae.
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Post Post #1407 (isolation #85) » Thu May 25, 2017 4:06 am

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@Mod would a hypothetical strongman modifier to a scum killing role bypass a hypothetical lightningrod role?
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Post Post #1412 (isolation #86) » Thu May 25, 2017 4:21 am

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Yeah so.. given roles on the table it's safe to assume scum has some form of strongman. Even if it's limited in shots. I don't see how this role is exclusively town at all.
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Post Post #1444 (isolation #87) » Thu May 25, 2017 6:28 am

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In post 1442, Torque wrote:except for Cabd
Uhh?
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Post Post #1446 (isolation #88) » Thu May 25, 2017 6:36 am

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Oh mmkay
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Post Post #1498 (isolation #89) » Fri May 26, 2017 12:46 pm

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Just a preemptive prod dodge because I've got stuff to do tonight and game is waiting on people who aren't me to post answers etc.
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Post Post #1539 (isolation #90) » Sat May 27, 2017 6:37 am

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Wisdom not appearing in your report is expected, Torque.

Putting my vote in; I have a brother that's moving cross-country and renting a room from me for a few months to assist.

I'll check in periodically.


UNVOTE:
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Post Post #1544 (isolation #91) » Sat May 27, 2017 7:35 am

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LMAO "let's lynch everyone except two people" you might as well just lynch completely randomly and hope to win in that rate.
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Post Post #1580 (isolation #92) » Tue May 30, 2017 12:25 pm

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So gamma appears to not be immune to milk.
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Post Post #1584 (isolation #93) » Tue May 30, 2017 12:32 pm

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I think I get what you're getting at, Torque, but we'll have to wait to hear for sure.

Or I could be completely off base.

Intentionally not answering gamma quite yet.
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Post Post #1594 (isolation #94) » Tue May 30, 2017 12:52 pm

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In post 1593, gerryoat wrote:also. cabd, can you explain the milk thing again
not right this second, no. Let torque finish first.
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Post Post #1596 (isolation #95) » Tue May 30, 2017 12:55 pm

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Right. In case it wasn't completely obvious I'm a roleblocker and my flavor involves milk.

And my roleblock targets are both obvious.
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Post Post #1598 (isolation #96) » Tue May 30, 2017 12:58 pm

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Not allergic to milk; that's just how Alisae describes the unblockable status from my character's POV it would seem. Which really fucking sucks, because he made it worded as if there's a bunch of other stuff at work like that it's one of each alignment that is unblock-able.
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Post Post #1614 (isolation #97) » Tue May 30, 2017 2:32 pm

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If I were a scum JK and saw the "soft" roleblocker claim I'd be hella claiming some MISC role or no action yeah.
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Post Post #1618 (isolation #98) » Tue May 30, 2017 2:41 pm

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UNVOTE:

This is no longer a confirmed blocking of a kill. I'm still not very convinced of gamma's holiness though.
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Post Post #1697 (isolation #99) » Wed May 31, 2017 6:33 am

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In post 1694, Wisdom wrote:gerry if i were you id be arguing why cabd is scum and you arent

because we dont have both a jk and a rb
He didn't think that one through, now did he?
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Post Post #1720 (isolation #100) » Wed May 31, 2017 8:33 am

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Torque wrote:Gerry you were gonna
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claim as a JK with no mafia kill?
In post 1697, Cabd wrote:He didn't think that one through, now did he?
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Post Post #1730 (isolation #101) » Wed May 31, 2017 8:41 am

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Did you miss the part where Torque said his vest got used?

pedit: Oh Alisae doesnt tell you if used or not, gotcha.

Hmm..
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Post Post #1785 (isolation #102) » Wed May 31, 2017 5:21 pm

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IF I were to assume somehow that town has a JK and masons and cop AND strong willed doctor AND lightning rod AND global voyeur in addition to myself; mafia would have to have something stupidly OP like Unblockable Ninja Strongman and a bunch of JOATS, or something. The only real point in the favor of such a hypothesis is that Alisae is posting replacement requests with the note that this game is incredibly swingy.
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Post Post #1863 (isolation #103) » Thu Jun 01, 2017 1:00 pm

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Will chime in more in a bit; but here's explicit confirmation of role madness and swingyness from the mod:
In post 349, Alisae wrote:Warning: Role Madness and Swingy.
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Post Post #1866 (isolation #104) » Thu Jun 01, 2017 1:14 pm

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Oh shit, my marriage to another penguin person requires me to immediately hard townread you. it was in the vows. How does that make you feel?
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Post Post #1893 (isolation #105) » Fri Jun 02, 2017 9:05 am

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In post 1891, Wisdom wrote:Cabd - Roleblocker
Wataru Kurozuma

I have thoughts about the game given all these reveals, but frogger needs to show up. And I need to be off work. So... tonight.
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Post Post #1974 (isolation #106) » Sun Jun 04, 2017 2:34 pm

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Wife threw her back out. Afk till I take her to the doctor tomorrow.
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Post Post #2076 (isolation #107) » Mon Jun 05, 2017 7:30 am

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Okay I'm here. Wife's back was fine after some medical attention and heating pads. Gave me quite a scare though.

UNVOTE:


Gerry, let's chat. I have one or two hangups about you, so let's work them out, eh?
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Post Post #2078 (isolation #108) » Mon Jun 05, 2017 7:38 am

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Yeah I'm gonna get to that Wis.

TLDR Flavor doesn't matter and I have a theory that the scum "actions" are in a different container anyways.


"In addition to your indiciual roles you have access to the following factional abilities" sort of setup. Where there's strongman shots, ninjas, miscbadstuff, etc.

Alisae's seen it used before, and he seems to have adopted a LOT of roles from games he's played in, watched, or helped design in the past, including ones I've ran.
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Post Post #2079 (isolation #109) » Mon Jun 05, 2017 7:39 am

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So I'm completely resetting any and all reads I have based upon flavor or role spec; and running with that theory for now.

But I have OTHER reservations with gerry, hence wanting to chat with him. His claim sort of "evolved" and I want to know why it went down that way.
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Post Post #2081 (isolation #110) » Mon Jun 05, 2017 7:50 am

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In post 2079, Cabd wrote:So I'm completely resetting any and all reads I have based upon flavor or role spec; and running with that theory for now.

But I have OTHER reservations with gerry, hence wanting to chat with him. His claim sort of "evolved" and I want to know why it went down that way.
This was sorta @ you gerry.

Why did parts of your claim come out piecemeal?
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Post Post #2084 (isolation #111) » Mon Jun 05, 2017 8:18 am

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In post 1675, gerryoat wrote:ok i'm JKer.

UNVOTE: wisdom
In post 1722, gerryoat wrote:It's pretty obvious I didn't JK anyone last night, or I would have outed it right away
In post 1813, gerryoat wrote:I'm odd night JK. I can be on Torque tonight and protect her. She is likely the only confirmed town right now.

you guys keep sheeping Wisdom on mislynch after mislynch. i dont get it.
What i mean by "evolving"

I don't really see how Touma's an odd-night jailkeeper here.
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Post Post #2087 (isolation #112) » Mon Jun 05, 2017 10:36 am

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* crickets play over gerry's lack of posts *
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Post Post #2114 (isolation #113) » Tue Jun 06, 2017 12:16 pm

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I'm conflicted here.

But the mason between those two should absolutely NOT claim/out themselves; make scum guess if it comes to it.

Thankfully if I'm doing my math correctly due to ~thing~ we have gained an extra lynch. So the game has now neatly sorted itself. We have what is a likely two confirms not including myself and the potential for at least one more.
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Post Post #2118 (isolation #114) » Tue Jun 06, 2017 12:21 pm

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In post 0, Alisae wrote:1) Players may not use factional and individual actions simultaneously unless their role PM explicitly says otherwise.
Yeah this screams a pool of actions. Otherwise i'd just say "kill and action simultaneously"
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Post Post #2134 (isolation #115) » Tue Jun 06, 2017 12:50 pm

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That also assumes Edos is town and not just a vest-giver with no other component to his role. Unless I'm missing something that confirms him as town?
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Post Post #2136 (isolation #116) » Tue Jun 06, 2017 12:54 pm

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Haven't we established that roles!=alignment?

Why NOT give scum a vest-giver of some sort?

If abilities that are scum-oriented are in a separate pool, you can give scum whatever abilities you want.

I'm just weary of the setup being THIS breakable this quickly. I feel like Alisae wouldn't make it that easy.
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Post Post #2137 (isolation #117) » Tue Jun 06, 2017 12:55 pm

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In post 0, Alisae wrote:unless their role PM explicitly says otherwise.
Wait shit I didn't even read this part the first time because glossed over it.

Entire line of inquiry re: possible action-killers is moot.
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Post Post #2138 (isolation #118) » Tue Jun 06, 2017 12:56 pm

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Fuck I don't even know.

Part of me says "we just broke alisae's game"

but then I read things like that taunting me and I'm like "Alisae's one step ahead"
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Post Post #2140 (isolation #119) » Tue Jun 06, 2017 1:01 pm

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Actually I bet the "says anyways" is that scum has a godfather who can act AND shoot. And it's probably Therestina. That much would be a perfect fit flavor wise.
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Post Post #2142 (isolation #120) » Tue Jun 06, 2017 1:03 pm

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Okay I've gotta commute home, but when I get back I wanna separate each claim by confirmed, claimed, and flipped. There's a puzzle to put together here.
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Post Post #2282 (isolation #121) » Wed Jun 07, 2017 1:55 pm

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I don't think the mason should be claiming because given role madness there's a non zero chance that both frogged and penguin are town.
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Post Post #2390 (isolation #122) » Thu Jun 08, 2017 5:23 am

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They have a strongman power in their pool, I bet. I don't think given so much protective power; that it's tied to a single person.
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Post Post #2392 (isolation #123) » Thu Jun 08, 2017 6:50 am

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Think at this point I'm just gonna vote my gut, fuck role interactions we aren't even 100% are tamper-free.
VOTE: Accountant


P.S: I think I have a way to get us safely back to odds tonight but it'll require something we may not want. I'm going to openly claim it and we should discuss the implications sooner rather than later.
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Post Post #2542 (isolation #124) » Thu Jun 08, 2017 2:17 pm

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You fucking idiots I had stuff to claim. It's moot now.
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Post Post #2566 (isolation #125) » Sat Jun 10, 2017 4:53 pm

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In post 2565, Wisdom wrote:I assume the mass block was cabd since
In post 2392, Cabd wrote:I think I have a way to get us safely back to odds tonight but it'll require something we may not want
and since it didnt stop the kill it probably confirms the strongman theory
Winner winner chicken dinner.

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Post Post #2598 (isolation #126) » Sun Jun 11, 2017 8:22 am

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No. This was a one time action I triggered when I made the post you quoted, so I think it would have blocked EVERYTHING. I will inquire with alisae as to the specific interaction.
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Post Post #2619 (isolation #127) » Mon Jun 12, 2017 6:52 am

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Question in to Alisae. Know he was busy last night with mod duties and shit, expecting answer soon.
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Post Post #2620 (isolation #128) » Mon Jun 12, 2017 6:57 am

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In post 2619, Cabd wrote:Question in to Alisae. Know he was busy last night with mod duties and shit, expecting answer soon.
Answer is "no".


So... vest should be out there.
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Post Post #2621 (isolation #129) » Mon Jun 12, 2017 6:58 am

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And yeah, I was hoping it'd stop ALL actions including the kill.

Look at what we have on the board. At best; we have one investigative that either gets nightkilled/blocked/interfered with. it was better to attempt to get us back to odds.
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Post Post #2622 (isolation #130) » Mon Jun 12, 2017 7:00 am

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In post 2609, Wisdom wrote:otherwise mass block is too antitown, especially with scum having a strongman, it blocks the entire town to what, block 2 scum actions?
It also self-modified my role somewhat, but I'm not getting into that quite yet.
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Post Post #2624 (isolation #131) » Mon Jun 12, 2017 7:04 am

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Knowing now, yes. I still thought I'd be able to stop it when I used it yesterday.
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Post Post #2625 (isolation #132) » Mon Jun 12, 2017 7:05 am

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Basically nothing about this setup makes sense.

If scum has a completely unblockable kill; why even have the setup with blockers and doctors?!?

Like "unblockable doctor jk lol scum can kill through all his protects anyways" is at the very minimum a thing we know is the case.
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Post Post #2627 (isolation #133) » Mon Jun 12, 2017 7:10 am

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It's got to be {gerrygoat, gamma} and {Frogger; Penguin}
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Post Post #2795 (isolation #134) » Wed Jun 14, 2017 4:44 am

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In post 2794, morph the cat wrote:I'm here. Sorry for the absence. Antibiotics are a thing now.
This was me, sorry.
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Post Post #2796 (isolation #135) » Wed Jun 14, 2017 4:49 am

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So frogger is confirmed scum, and all I have to do is get wisdom to realize he's tunneling the wrong person yet again, and we have to find the last scum? Awesome. I should get food poisoning more often.
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Post Post #2798 (isolation #136) » Wed Jun 14, 2017 6:57 am

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Right clearly the only person other than you who could have killed night one and claimed mason then backed up into universal backup and THEN got caught telling lies about obtaining said backup role is nothign but town, how could I have been so mistaken, Wisdom? Show me the error of my ways.
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Post Post #2808 (isolation #137) » Wed Jun 14, 2017 9:45 am

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In post 2807, gerryoat wrote:I missed that then. He said that yesterday?
I did. I activated it when I mentioned having a way to try and get us back to odds.

I use my connections within Big Spider to get my hands on a Capacity Down device, and use it. Then antiskill (read: the police) does ~things~ and my role is changed to ~things~
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Post Post #2809 (isolation #138) » Wed Jun 14, 2017 9:46 am

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In post 2566, Cabd wrote:
In post 2565, Wisdom wrote:I assume the mass block was cabd since
In post 2392, Cabd wrote:I think I have a way to get us safely back to odds tonight but it'll require something we may not want
and since it didnt stop the kill it probably confirms the strongman theory
Winner winner chicken dinner.

It's converted my role into something else which I won't be fullclaiming, but suffice to say is less useful.

Unfortunately, yes, strongman theory confirmed. I had hoped seeing that Math had a JOAT basically meant that they didn't have a separate pool and that their strongman was limited. Alas it was not.
In post 2598, Cabd wrote:No. This was a one time action I triggered when I made the post you quoted, so I think it would have blocked EVERYTHING. I will inquire with alisae as to the specific interaction.
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Post Post #2816 (isolation #139) » Wed Jun 14, 2017 2:01 pm

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That sounds totally believable. I see why Wisdom thinks you're town. /S
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Post Post #2817 (isolation #140) » Wed Jun 14, 2017 2:01 pm

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Like that was the most transparent bullshit I've seen in a while. And to be fair I've been retired a while but jeez.
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Post Post #2818 (isolation #141) » Wed Jun 14, 2017 2:02 pm

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And so it gives me great pleasure to send you to hell and make wisdom eat crow.
VOTE: frog
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Post Post #2922 (isolation #142) » Thu Jun 15, 2017 7:39 am

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In post 2912, Gamma Emerald wrote:@Cabd: what did your role become after your day action?
I become "weak" both in the traditional sense and that any visit from scum kills me regardless of the actual role. But it doesn't matter because ya'll are blockheads and are gonna lynch me today anyways. It's 100% frog and one more. And as for that who the hell even knows any more. Guess I get to hope ya'll make the right decision. Think the game is unlosable at this point even if you do mislynch me unless there's 4 scum anyways.
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Post Post #2940 (isolation #143) » Thu Jun 15, 2017 10:40 am

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VOTE: Cabd

Hopefully, partners, edo didn't vest in time. See you on the other side.
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Post Post #2944 (isolation #144) » Thu Jun 15, 2017 10:44 am

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And I'm a little miffed town got masons AND an unblockable doctor AND a backup role AND a bunmch of other bullshit that made the game stacked heavily against me. But frustrating you is my jerb.
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Post Post #2949 (isolation #145) » Thu Jun 15, 2017 10:50 am

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You can blame Alisae for that. But here.
UNVOTE:
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Post Post #2950 (isolation #146) » Thu Jun 15, 2017 10:52 am

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Dear partner, whoever you are. I certainly hope we did enough for you. Math and I didn't really have a choice; being unable to contact you or reach out or even know who you are.

Good luck and arceusspeed.
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Post Post #2952 (isolation #147) » Thu Jun 15, 2017 10:54 am

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Yeah you'll see postgame. This setup has sucked from the start and I've debated asking Alisae to let me resign. getting me to L-1 was a blessing and I thank you all for it.
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Post Post #2953 (isolation #148) » Thu Jun 15, 2017 10:56 am

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Like I have an entire wallpost dedicated to "this game was not a balanced setup" but I'm sure regardless of that if I lose people are gonna be like "nah cabd you're sore lol game was fine" never mind THE FUCKING MASONS HAD A COP ABILITY
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Post Post #2957 (isolation #149) » Thu Jun 15, 2017 10:59 am

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Yeah just a little salty because we played day play D1 and D2 pretty damn well then got fucked by night actions heavily. I'm not entirely sure we even could win the two of us, without knowing who our traitor was and them having an AMAZING set of night actions.
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Post Post #2958 (isolation #150) » Thu Jun 15, 2017 11:00 am

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I mean; we can revisit it when the game's over yeah; i'm just venting now.
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Post Post #2959 (isolation #151) » Thu Jun 15, 2017 11:01 am

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I thought Alisae had a better grasp on setups than this so I was sad because he's an important scummer to me.
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Post Post #2961 (isolation #152) » Thu Jun 15, 2017 11:03 am

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Who reviewed it? I'll add them to my IRL vig kill list.
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Post Post #2962 (isolation #153) » Thu Jun 15, 2017 11:03 am

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In post 0, Alisae wrote:Reviewers: Firebringer and Ircher
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Post Post #2963 (isolation #154) » Thu Jun 15, 2017 11:04 am

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HEY FIUREBRINGER AND IRCHER MAYBE FUCKING CALCULATE HOW MANY TOWNS CAN BE CONFIRMED BY NIGHT ACTIONS IN ANY GIVEN NIGHT BEFORE APPROVING A SETUP JESUS
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Post Post #3119 (isolation #155) » Sun Jun 18, 2017 5:31 pm

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Yeah town had the equivalent of like.. 3 or 4 investigative actions. We had a single strongman shot. ONE.
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Post Post #3120 (isolation #156) » Sun Jun 18, 2017 5:32 pm

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No objections to releasing the scum PT from me.
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Post Post #3123 (isolation #157) » Sun Jun 18, 2017 5:38 pm

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Flavor and the player roster was great!


Setup, eh... shit happens, and you learned valuable lessons.
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