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Post Post #1425 (ISO) » Mon Jun 19, 2017 3:54 am

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In post 1423, Cheetory6 wrote:
In post 1422, MuttonChopMagic wrote:mostly how it was a rushed counter to the one we need to lynch again
Please stop, look me in the eyes, and explain to me like I'm 5 years old why kraska is scum pls and ty.

Also hi everyone it's me, bull-man.
Me tooooo

Been reading Kraska as genuine and townie (ya I know i vote but we only cuz we needed a lynch and I didnt think PP had momentum)
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Post Post #1426 (ISO) » Mon Jun 19, 2017 4:49 am

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UNVOTE:

kraska, let me ask you this
what's your read on me? answer can be piss
on a scale from 1 to 10 am I green
just quote this and answer with a number is what I mean
feel free to add more as well
if not then I'll also give all my penguin wagon thoughts from hell
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Post Post #1427 (ISO) » Mon Jun 19, 2017 4:50 am

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Hey guys
Can you give me a list of roles that can redirect might actions and are also listed as "normal"? Coz I got nightactions I wasn't supposed to get
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Post Post #1428 (ISO) » Mon Jun 19, 2017 4:53 am

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In post 1427, kraska77 wrote:Hey guys
Can you give me a list of roles that can redirect might actions and are also listed as "normal"? Coz I got nightactions I wasn't supposed to get
Fatal error.
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Post Post #1429 (ISO) » Mon Jun 19, 2017 4:54 am

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I got what looks like a cop's inno on someone
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Post Post #1430 (ISO) » Mon Jun 19, 2017 4:54 am

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Nah I checked with implosion, this was intended
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Post Post #1431 (ISO) » Mon Jun 19, 2017 4:55 am

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In post 1429, kraska77 wrote:I got what looks like a cop's inno on someone
Fatal error.
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Post Post #1432 (ISO) » Mon Jun 19, 2017 4:58 am

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In post 1430, kraska77 wrote:Nah I checked with implosion, this was intended
As in it's probably a not-normal role (minis can have 1 right?) because I just looked at the normal roles list, and...

https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?ti ... rmal_Roles
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Post Post #1433 (ISO) » Mon Jun 19, 2017 5:02 am

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Anyway confusing stuff aside....
I just noticed that OP says scumchat was open for the first 48 hours of day 1, and looking at the VC's with that in mind, nottherealpaul is def town...he had a vote on himself for majority of day one and there's No way his scumbuddies wouldn't have pressed him to take it off way sooner

Pedit: I don't know, I'll look at that Tom, I'm busy today

Oh and
VOTE: nerocain
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Post Post #1434 (ISO) » Mon Jun 19, 2017 5:23 am

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In post 1430, kraska77 wrote:Nah I checked with implosion, this was intended
Interesting.

This is just a check-in post, my other game is at deadline and the whole day needs a reread. Will try and find time for a big debrief by end of today.
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Post Post #1435 (ISO) » Mon Jun 19, 2017 5:28 am

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hm well that is strange
I want to ask qs about your role but tbh that can wait til mass claim
I don't really understand what you're saying
but I reread some stuff and Nero is scum so you're probably town super saiyan

sorry cheeto no case for u
just a Nero lynch to do
VOTE: nero
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Post Post #1436 (ISO) » Mon Jun 19, 2017 5:29 am

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In post 1429, kraska77 wrote:I got what looks like a cop's inno on someone
this is a weird post by the way
I think kraskas softing a specific pr but I'll stop for lack of purpusefullness eh?
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Post Post #1437 (ISO) » Mon Jun 19, 2017 5:30 am

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In post 1426, MuttonChopMagic wrote:UNVOTE:

kraska, let me ask you this
what's your read on me? answer can be piss
on a scale from 1 to 10 am I green
just quote this and answer with a number is what I mean
feel free to add more as well
if not then I'll also give all my penguin wagon thoughts from hell
even though I reread the lynch and think you're green
I want an answer to this not to be mean
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Post Post #1438 (ISO) » Mon Jun 19, 2017 5:44 am

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In post 1416, DeathRowKitty wrote:I would like to take this moment to make sure that everyone sees CHEETORY6's username before it changes back.
Pink capital letters? I see it.
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Post Post #1439 (ISO) » Mon Jun 19, 2017 5:55 am

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In post 1419, NotTheRealPaul wrote:also thoughts on the nodeaths? we have some sort of protective role who should now know a conf townie right?
My thought is that the nodeath goes a long way towards making you probable Town. There are several ways to create a nodeath - including a scum team deliberately faking one - but the most likely seems to be either a doctor or a Town roleblocker.

If there was a Town roleblocker, then we've got someone who's got a pretty good idea who one of the scum is. If so, then that person should probably keep roleblocking the same target until that target is lynched, to prevent further kills. But a doctor seems more likely.

Moreover, the doctor must have chosen to protect the same person as the Mafia chose to kill - if that's the reason for the no-lynch. Now, it seems to me that the obvious person for the doctor to protect is NTRP - since he's made it reasonably clear that he's either Mafia or a PR, and the doctor wants to protect PRs. And clearly, since no-one died, that means it seems likely that either the Mafia is pulling a fast one with a deliberate no kill, or they tried to kill NTRP; the second of these options thus implies that NTRP is Town.

There's a lot of maybes in that chain of logic, so it's nowhere near ironclad. But it seems sensible to townread NTRP a bit more due to that.
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Post Post #1440 (ISO) » Mon Jun 19, 2017 6:00 am

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In post 1424, SlingshotWaffles wrote:I thought Kraska was voted, not PP lol.

VOTE: Kraska
Kraska was
almost
voted.

I counted the votes, but made an error (didn't notice NeroCain had moved his vote off kraska) and announced L-1 on Kraska. NTRP jumped in with one more vote, announcing (incorrectly) the hammer, implosion put up the VC showing kraska now at L-1. I panicked because I was still scumreading NTRP and jumped right off the wagon. I dithered a bit between kraska and PP and eventually went with my gut (and my top two townreads) and jumped on the PP wagon, bringing it to L-2 (along with the kraska wagon). Then two more people voted PP in quick succession. (Then I think two people switched to kraska but it was too late, PP had already been hammered).
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Post Post #1441 (ISO) » Mon Jun 19, 2017 6:04 am

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In post 1429, kraska77 wrote:I got what looks like a cop's inno on someone
Interesting. Do you know who the result is on, or do you just have a note saying "INNOCENT"?

(I'm not asking you to reveal the name if you have it; I'm just asking whether it's there at all)
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Post Post #1442 (ISO) » Mon Jun 19, 2017 6:58 am

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I'm not scum. lol

Why did Krska and nm vote/herself/her after the PP lynch?

having internet problems. Will try to post later. I'll go to the library if they continue.
Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.

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Post Post #1443 (ISO) » Mon Jun 19, 2017 7:59 am

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Wait i think people are misunderstanding. post 1429 isn't isolated, its a followup to 1427.

So I'm just going to come clear with this stuff:
I got info that muttonboy's alignment is town. Except I definitely did not target him night 1...sooooo
It's either just a message that was sent to me
Or it was an investigation result that was redirected to me

What do you think? I don't know what to make of this stuff. This is the first game I play in half a year, my memory on roles is really fuzzy
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Post Post #1444 (ISO) » Mon Jun 19, 2017 8:21 am

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To be more clear, investigating alignments is not something I can do with my role
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Post Post #1445 (ISO) » Mon Jun 19, 2017 8:23 am

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https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Cop

An Amnesiac Cop functions as a normal Cop, but does not receive the results of its investigations. Those investigation results are sent to another (unknown) player. This has been commonly subverted by making the unknown recipient a Mafioso or a Serial Killer.


Maybe this.
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Post Post #1446 (ISO) » Mon Jun 19, 2017 8:35 am

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I am town and this makes no sense as a scum claim
did it explicitly say town? I'm fruit vendor and targeted you but that doesn't show alignment mane
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Post Post #1447 (ISO) » Mon Jun 19, 2017 8:38 am

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It does
I even thought this was a mod error at first
Hey can you recheck your pm,
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Post Post #1448 (ISO) » Mon Jun 19, 2017 8:41 am

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Did you get fruit on top of the result or just the result?
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Post Post #1449 (ISO) » Mon Jun 19, 2017 8:48 am

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No, no fruits

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