Micro 719: For Us [Endgame]

[Lovebirds]

Bonkers.
Absolutely bonkers.

[morph the cat]

I suspect this is a "tales of you" scenario where more hoods will get created, too.

[morph the cat]

"tales of you

Sorry notsorry, Mastina

[Lovebirds]

I mean I like neighbors in moderation but when there's a lot of them it gets messy.
Like Xenologue where we basically took turns going "no andy's not the only neighborizer".

Sigh.

[morph the cat]

Yeah. Lots of back channels and currents. It's what made us so adamant on getting activity spun up in the main thread. We figured everyone was in multiple hoods at first.

[Lovebirds]

Also someone asked about Clumsy being TR.
I had an early hesitation but he's basically been solid with the game and, sort of like me, has drawn a clear line between this game and other responsibilities.
Idk.
Supplemented by gut I feel confident in his slot.



pedit: That would make a lot of sense. I just think some of us are actually busy [NMS, LB, CP] and, at least for me, I prefer doing something other than playing mafia with my other half.

[Burning Hatred]

I mean I like neighbors in moderation but when there's a lot of them it gets messy.
Like Xenologue where we basically took turns going "no andy's not the only neighborizer".

Sigh.

Me in all neighborhood heavy games

[Burning Hatred]

but he's basically been solid with the game

Like how?

[NoticeMeSenpai]

So I'm happy with it but I'm not EXCITED like I would be if we were lynching DGslot, which is my first choice I think.

DGslot is your #1 scumread because...?

I actually really just want to pressure that slot because SoD doesn't seem to care you're voting them.

Am I missing some kind of context here or misreading this? Because you haven't moved your vote from me to DG slot which I feel should have happened if you want the slot to be pressured or preferred that lynch over SoD.

[NoticeMeSenpai]

I had an early hesitation but he's basically been solid with the game and, sort of like me, has drawn a clear line between this game and other responsibilities.

but he's basically been solid with the game

Like how?

+1.

This first part as BH pointed out is really vague, can you elaborate?
I don't feel that drawing a line between a game and other responsibilities is alignment indicative with regards to the rest of the sentence.

[morph the cat]

I also didn't read the second part of your case since there's a lot of embedded wall quote and I don't care for that crap.

I'm sad you didn't read the bottom section below all the nested quotes.

I swear I'm not really a waller.

[Imperium]

I'm going to start getting caught up with the game tonight! I wouldn't count on seeing nacho in the next day or two cuz he's a bit behind and overloaded, so you have me. If you have anytng you want me to direct nachos attention to, just let me know. I don't think I'll get 109% caught up today, but I'll get as far as I can.

[Alisae]

ALISAE IS BACK YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY

[Imperium]

I also feel like Nacho's reach out to me earlier in the game was genuine and not a pockety attempt, it felt like when he reached out to me in Boombox when I went wrong on my PoE, it's hard to explain the feeling but I don't think it was an attempt to pocket me in any case -- that said I do kind of feel like Nacho would reach out to me regardless just to try to help me stay in the game and motivated because he's a nice person so I don't know I might be reading too much into it.

Nacho tried a pro-level reachout to Tammy and I in laundry and it almost worked.

Tammy and I had a heated back-and-forth which was a stupid thing in hindsight on my part but Nacho walks in and takes this mediator approach of 'hey you're both great you're both town let's get back in this' and it worked. But he was scum and someone said he might be scum for diffusing the Tammy v Andy thing for townpoints.

I'm not saying he's scum here but let's make no mistake Nacho knows how to play this game. Like, my big issue is I don't get townfeels from his posting and that concerns me.

-Andy

First I want to point out that this is apples and oranges. When someone brought up that he might be scum for doing it in that game, I pointed out that that was nai at all even while acknowledging he could be scum. Nacho mediates things like that regardless of his alignment sometimes, but he could tell I was hurting and miserable and once he realized that we were both misunderstanding each other he knew he could help. Would it have a side effect of making him look better, sure, but if he can fix a situation in a game when I'm feeling that shitty he'll do it regardless of alignment. I mean I guess if he's scum and he thought he could use it to his advantage because mislynching me is on his scum bucket list then he might, but I just think if he saw me that miserable he'd want to help.

Here as far as I understand was a reach out to help Jae get motivated (I haven't read it so going off Jae's impression) and he quite often reaches out to people as town in that way.

What I'm trying to say is look at the context and what he's doing with the reach out.

How come you didn't interact with any of our thoughts or ask any questions if you want to sort us? I'm finding it difficult to believe you don't get *any* town feels from nachos posting.

[Imperium]

ALISAE IS BACK YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY

RAWR!

[Imperium]

Andy - have you ever played with mastina?

[Alisae]

VOTE COUNT 1 . 17 Two Real Humans --- 2 ( Scott and Ramona, NoticeMeSenpai ) L- 3 Sword of Damocles - 2 ( morph the cat, Burning Hatred ) L- 3 NoticeMeSenpai ---- 1 ( Lovebirds ) L- 4 Scott and Ramona -- 1 ( Two Real Humans ) L- 4 Not Voting -------- 3 ( Clumsy Phoenix, Imperium, Sword of Damocles ) With 9 alive, it takes 5 to Lynch Deadline is in (expired on 2017-06-25 21:40:00)

MARRIAGE COUNT 1 . 17 morph the cat -- 3 ( Burning Hatred, Two Real Humans, NoticeMeSenpai ) Clumsy Phoenix - 2 ( Clumsy Phoenix, Sword of Damocles ) Lovebirds ------ 1 ( Lovebirds ) No One --------- 1 ( Scott and Ramona ) Not Voting ----- 2 ( Imperium, morph the cat ) If nothing is changed, morph the cat will discover true love Deadline is in (expired on 2017-06-25 21:40:00)

[Imperium]

Antihero yelled at me for an entire game day because of it. (He was scumreading him, and he was scum!)
I think nacho was there too.

This post is funny now that I know you thought it was me!

(We get confused for each other a surprising amount, it's pretty amusing)

[Imperium]

It's a gamble that we don't need to make. The potential of having an IC doesn't appeal to me because in my experience, they don't scare scum. They only make things easier during the night. I rather see how people attempt to sort someone's alignment then see how they interact with confirmed town.

I kinda like this.

I made a mental note of liking this too. Which is cool as they were an early leaning scum read of mine due to the attack on the love mechanic that nms had pointed out and questioned about. (Though nacho thought it was more likely to be a player quirk than alignment relevant)

[Imperium]

Yeah, sorry quite baffled that Andy is all no town feels from nacho posting. I might be biased, but.

As of page 11, I like morph, gif, and nms for town.

[Imperium]

Imperium is a little worrying, because Nacho usually seems pretty town fairly early for me when they are town, but they haven't really gotten into the game too much yet. I don't know if that's a scum tell necessarily though. I'll have a stronger read once they get more into the game (like your truly, >_>).

Oh I remember I wanted to ask about this. Why do you think this? When we played in dragon ball z together, you spent most of day one suspecting us? (You only started town reading us when nacho did some extensive ISO dives and we started defending you while others attacked you and you noted that our defense of you might be why you were softening on us?)

[Imperium]

Oh mea culpa Andy did interact some with nacho.

[Alisae]

GUYS I UPDATED THE OP GO LOOK AT IT

[Alisae]

Also here, I'm putting VCs in my ISO to make your life easier!

Spoiler: VCs 9-16

VOTE COUNT 1 . 9 Sword of Damocles - 1 ( NoticeMeSenpai ) L- 4 Imperium ---------- 1 ( Burning Hatred ) L- 4 morph the cat ----- 1 ( Devils Gear ) L- 4 NoticeMeSenpai ---- 1 ( Lovebirds ) L- 4 Lovebirds --------- 1 ( morph the cat ) L- 4 Devils Gear ------- 1 ( Scott and Ramona ) L- 4 Not Voting -------- 3 ( Clumsy Phoenix, Imperium, Sword of Damocles ) With 9 alive, it takes 5 to Lynch Deadline is in (expired on 2017-06-25 21:40:00)

MARRIAGE COUNT 1 . 9 NoticeMeSenpai - 1 ( NoticeMeSenpai ) Clumsy Phoenix - 1 ( Clumsy Phoenix ) Burning Hatred - 1 ( Sword of Damocles ) Lovebirds ------ 1 ( Lovebirds ) No One --------- 2 ( Burning Hatred, Scott and Ramona ) Not Voting ----- 3 ( Devils Gear, Imperium, morph the cat ) If nothing is changed, No one will discover true love Deadline is in (expired on 2017-06-25 21:40:00)

VOTE COUNT 1 . 10 Sword of Damocles - 1 ( NoticeMeSenpai ) L- 4 Imperium ---------- 1 ( Burning Hatred ) L- 4 NoticeMeSenpai ---- 1 ( Lovebirds ) L- 4 Lovebirds --------- 1 ( morph the cat ) L- 4 Devils Gear ------- 1 ( Scott and Ramona ) L- 4 Scott and Ramona -- 1 ( Devils Gear ) L- 4 Not Voting -------- 3 ( Clumsy Phoenix, Imperium, Sword of Damocles ) With 9 alive, it takes 5 to Lynch Deadline is in (expired on 2017-06-25 21:40:00)

MARRIAGE COUNT 1 . 10 NoticeMeSenpai - 2 ( NoticeMeSenpai, Devils Gear ) Clumsy Phoenix - 1 ( Clumsy Phoenix ) Burning Hatred - 1 ( Sword of Damocles ) Lovebirds ------ 1 ( Lovebirds ) No One --------- 2 ( Burning Hatred, Scott and Ramona ) Not Voting ----- 2 ( Imperium, morph the cat ) If nothing is changed, No one will discover true love Deadline is in (expired on 2017-06-25 21:40:00)

VOTE COUNT 1 . 11 Devils Gear ------- 2 ( Scott and Ramona, morph the cat ) L- 3 Sword of Damocles - 1 ( NoticeMeSenpai ) L- 4 Imperium ---------- 1 ( Burning Hatred ) L- 4 NoticeMeSenpai ---- 1 ( Lovebirds ) L- 4 Scott and Ramona -- 1 ( Devils Gear ) L- 4 Not Voting -------- 3 ( Clumsy Phoenix, Imperium, Sword of Damocles ) With 9 alive, it takes 5 to Lynch Deadline is in (expired on 2017-06-25 21:40:00)

MARRIAGE COUNT 1 . 11 NoticeMeSenpai - 2 ( NoticeMeSenpai, Devils Gear ) Clumsy Phoenix - 1 ( Clumsy Phoenix ) Burning Hatred - 1 ( Sword of Damocles ) Lovebirds ------ 1 ( Lovebirds ) No One --------- 2 ( Burning Hatred, Scott and Ramona ) Not Voting ----- 2 ( Imperium, morph the cat ) If nothing is changed, No one will discover true love Deadline is in (expired on 2017-06-25 21:40:00)

VOTE COUNT 1 . 12 Two Real Humans -- 2 ( Scott and Ramona, morph the cat ) L- 3 Sword of Damocles -- 1 ( NoticeMeSenpai ) L- 4 Imperium ---------- 1 ( Burning Hatred ) L- 4 NoticeMeSenpai ---- 1 ( Lovebirds ) L- 4 Scott and Ramona -- 1 ( Two Real Humans ) L- 4 Not Voting -------- 3 ( Clumsy Phoenix, Imperium, Sword of Damocles ) With 9 alive, it takes 5 to Lynch Deadline is in (expired on 2017-06-25 21:40:00)

MARRIAGE COUNT 1 . 12 NoticeMeSenpai - 2 ( NoticeMeSenpai, Two Real Humans ) Clumsy Phoenix - 1 ( Clumsy Phoenix ) Burning Hatred - 1 ( Sword of Damocles ) Lovebirds ------ 1 ( Lovebirds ) No One --------- 2 ( Burning Hatred, Scott and Ramona ) Not Voting ----- 2 ( Imperium, morph the cat ) If nothing is changed, No one will discover true love Deadline is in (expired on 2017-06-25 21:40:00)

VOTE COUNT 1 . 13 Two Real Humans --- 2 ( Scott and Ramona, morph the cat ) L- 3 Sword of Damocles - 1 ( NoticeMeSenpai ) L- 4 Imperium ---------- 1 ( Burning Hatred ) L- 4 NoticeMeSenpai ---- 1 ( Lovebirds ) L- 4 Scott and Ramona -- 1 ( Two Real Humans ) L- 4 Not Voting -------- 3 ( Clumsy Phoenix, Imperium, Sword of Damocles ) With 9 alive, it takes 5 to Lynch Deadline is in (expired on 2017-06-25 21:40:00)

MARRIAGE COUNT 1 . 13 NoticeMeSenpai - 2 ( NoticeMeSenpai, Two Real Humans ) Clumsy Phoenix - 1 ( Clumsy Phoenix ) Burning Hatred - 1 ( Sword of Damocles ) Lovebirds ------ 1 ( Lovebirds ) No One --------- 2 ( Burning Hatred, Scott and Ramona ) Not Voting ----- 2 ( Imperium, morph the cat ) If nothing is changed, No one will discover true love Deadline is in (expired on 2017-06-25 21:40:00)

VOTE COUNT 1 . 14 Sword of Damocles - 1 ( NoticeMeSenpai ) L- 4 Imperium ---------- 1 ( Burning Hatred ) L- 4 NoticeMeSenpai ---- 1 ( Lovebirds ) L- 4 Two Real Humans --- 1 ( Scott and Ramona ) L- 4 Scott and Ramona -- 1 ( Two Real Humans ) L- 4 Clumsy Phoenix ---- 1 ( morph the cat ) L- 4 Not Voting -------- 3 ( Clumsy Phoenix, Imperium, Sword of Damocles ) With 9 alive, it takes 5 to Lynch Deadline is in (expired on 2017-06-25 21:40:00)

MARRIAGE COUNT 1 . 14 NoticeMeSenpai - 2 ( NoticeMeSenpai, Two Real Humans ) Clumsy Phoenix - 1 ( Clumsy Phoenix ) Burning Hatred - 1 ( Sword of Damocles ) Lovebirds ------ 1 ( Lovebirds ) No One --------- 2 ( Burning Hatred, Scott and Ramona ) Not Voting ----- 2 ( Imperium, morph the cat ) If nothing is changed, No one will discover true love Deadline is in (expired on 2017-06-25 21:40:00)

VOTE COUNT 1 . 15 Two Real Humans ------- 2 ( Scott and Ramona, NoticeMeSenpai ) L- 3 Imperium ---------- 1 ( Burning Hatred ) L- 4 NoticeMeSenpai ---- 1 ( Lovebirds ) L- 4 Scott and Ramona ------- 1 ( Two Real Humans ) L- 4 Sword of Damocles - 1 ( morph the cat ) L- 4 Not Voting -------- 3 ( Clumsy Phoenix, Imperium, Sword of Damocles ) With 9 alive, it takes 5 to Lynch Deadline is in (expired on 2017-06-25 21:40:00)

MARRIAGE COUNT 1 . 15 morph the cat ------ 2 ( Burning Hatred, Two Real Humans ) Clumsy Phoenix - 2 ( Clumsy Phoenix, Sword of Damocles ) NoticeMeSenpai - 1 ( NoticeMeSenpai ) Lovebirds ------ 1 ( Lovebirds ) No One --------- 1 ( Scott and Ramona ) Not Voting ----- 2 ( Imperium, morph the cat ) If nothing is changed, no one will discover true love Deadline is in (expired on 2017-06-25 21:40:00)

VOTE COUNT 1 . 16 Two Real Humans --- 2 ( Scott and Ramona, NoticeMeSenpai ) L- 3 Imperium ---------- 1 ( Burning Hatred ) L- 4 NoticeMeSenpai ---- 1 ( Lovebirds ) L- 4 Scott and Ramona -- 1 ( Two Real Humans ) L- 4 Sword of Damocles - 1 ( morph the cat ) L- 4 Not Voting -------- 3 ( Clumsy Phoenix, Imperium, Sword of Damocles ) With 9 alive, it takes 5 to Lynch Deadline is in (expired on 2017-06-25 21:40:00)

MARRIAGE COUNT 1 . 16 morph the cat -- 3 ( Burning Hatred, Two Real Humans, NoticeMeSenpai ) Clumsy Phoenix - 2 ( Clumsy Phoenix, Sword of Damocles ) Lovebirds ------ 1 ( Lovebirds ) No One --------- 1 ( Scott and Ramona ) Not Voting ----- 2 ( Imperium, morph the cat ) If nothing is changed, morph the cat will discover true love Deadline is in (expired on 2017-06-25 21:40:00)

[Alisae]

My Love is like to ice, and I to fire:
How comes it then that this her cold so great
Is not dissolved through my so hot desire,
But harder grows the more I her entreat?
Or how comes it that my exceeding heat
Is not allayed by her heart-frozen cold,
But that I burn much more in boiling sweat,
And feel my flames augmented manifold?
What more miraculous thing may be told,
That fire, which all things melts, should harden ice,
And ice, which is congeal’d with senseless cold,
Should kindle fire by wonderful device?
Such is the power of love in gentle mind,
That it can alter all the course of kind.