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[Grendel]

NTRP is likely Town, for the reasons I outlined previously - he seems the best candidate for Doctoral protection, and we had no night kill. I know I'm Town.

That leaves eight people who might be Mafia: Not_Mafia, DeathRowKitty, Cheetory6, Hiraki, Grendel, SlingshotWaffles, Backhand, and Nero Cain.

My thoughts on these follow:

Not_Mafia is still mostly silent, and deliberately hard to read. Null.
DeathRowKitty hasn't said anything useful today. Near-Null.
Cheetory tripped over kraska's post about MCM in a way that looks very much like innocent Townie behaviour, and revealed info that would appear (in the short term) good for Town. Leaning Townish.
Hiraki is trying to figure out the Nero Cain scumreads. Or pretending to. Null so far.
Grendel has yet to turn up today. Near-Null.
SlingshotWaffles - ohhhhh dear. SlingshotWaffles appears to be making deliberate effort to fish for the identities of PRs. Looks scummy.
Backhand - Seems to be making a genuine effort to figure out what's going on. Feels Towny, but that's only a feel - there's not much backing it.
Nero Cain - I would normally have said near-null, but now that I'm reading Kraska as strongly Town, I have to give a lot more weight to her Nero read. (And, moreover, looking over his ISO, kraska is

right

- Nero has been pretty vague and uncertain. Not quite sure that's necessarily scumsign, but kraska seems sure and if she's Town, then, well...) - Scumlean

So, right now, if I had to pick a scumteam, it would be SlingshotWaffles, Nero Cain, and one of my Nulls or Near-Nulls (Grendel, Hikari, DRK, or Not_Mafia)

VOTE: SlingshotWaffles

Do you think that NeroxSling makes much sense tho?

Nero was on Sling a lot yesterday.

Can we talk about your consistant backhand read sometime? I didn't do enough yesterday to pull attention to him aside from complain about how nobody was paying him any attention lol

[DeathRowKitty]

tbh I'm having trouble forming reads this game because I've gotten into a bad habit of accidentally scumreading most power roles as town but I think I understand how it happens and I'm being overly careful to not let myself fall into that this game and it's making me weird and cagey because avoiding it requires me to be more careful and I haven't really felt able to do so since I fell behind once in this game and that's been locking me into only being able to talk about the subset of players I feel like I've put enough effort into separating properly in that way

and now i'm just playing like shit in a different way than usual so that's useful

[Grendel]

*@Cheetory*

What are you thoughts on Hikari's actual alignment?

[Grendel]

tbh I'm having trouble forming reads this game because I've gotten into a bad habit of accidentally scumreading most power roles as town but I think I understand how it happens and I'm being overly careful to not let myself fall into that this game and it's making me weird and cagey because avoiding it requires me to be more careful and I haven't really felt able to do so since I fell behind once in this game and that's been locking me into only being able to talk about the subset of players I feel like I've put enough effort into separating properly in that way

and now i'm just playing like shit in a different way than usual so that's useful

That souns like the opposite of my problem, where I scum read town power forcing them to cliam.

If you weren't being careful where would you reads be?

[DeathRowKitty]

why would i answer that question

[DeathRowKitty]

froggy
hey froggy
froggy mckittens hey
who would you be scumreading if you were probably accidentally scumreading power roles? just curious wink wink

[Nero Cain]

Okay, I'll be back tom when im free to write down a detailed post on nero and grendel

this should be fun. Like your "case" on me from yesterday was all kinds of gross amd anytime you were proven wrong you just magically had a new reason.

[Nero Cain]

@Grendal-Why should I have interacted with you more?

[Cheetory6]

Nero, if you're town, can you please get more into this game?

[Backhand]

Nero and waffles, where are you at on Not_Mafia? Do you consider "backup" to be a viable claim to keep alive?

[SlingshotWaffles]

Nero and waffles, where are you at on Not_Mafia? Do you consider "backup" to be a viable claim to keep alive?

Why do you want him again?

[Backhand]

Vote Count 1.12

Not_Mafia (6): Not_Mafia, Backhand, Cheetory6, DeathRowKitty, NotTheRealPaul, PenguinPower
Gamma Emerald (2): CCC, MuttonChopMagic
Backhand (1): Grendel
CCC (1): Hiraki
Cheetory6 (1): SlingshotWaffles

Not Voting (2): Gamma Emerald, Nero Cain


With 13 alive, it takes 7 votes to lynch.
Deadline is on Thursday, June 15th at 5:00 PM PST, in (expired on 2017-06-15 20:00:00).

Not_Mafia has been prodded.

A. Townreads and people who are now confirmed town were on this wagon.
B. A townwagon on Kraska popped up right after that. Nero was a big part of that and he would probably be my second choice.

VOTE: Not_Mafia

[SlingshotWaffles]

A) I feel this doesn't mean much because he was mainly a PL/voting him for things he always does.
B) That's because that's when Gamma requested to replace out.

[NotTheRealPaul]

A) I feel this doesn't mean much because he was mainly a PL/voting him for things he always does.
B) That's because that's when Gamma requested to replace out.

So where are you on NM? U didnt answer...

[SlingshotWaffles]

Don't PL or lynch him for NAI behaviour.

[kraska77]

@slingshot
Copy this list and add your read next to each person

Not_Mafia bigbenwd
DeathRowKitty
Cheetory6
Hiraki Raya36
CCC
Grendel
MuttonChopMagic
SlingshotWaffles notsure
Backhand
Nero Cain Accountant
NotTheRealPaul
kraska77 Gamma Emerald

[Backhand]

A) I feel this doesn't mean much because he was mainly a PL/voting him for things he always does.
B) That's because that's when Gamma requested to replace out.

So where are you on NM? U didnt answer...

I thought it was very clear--even though lazy scum most likely did not hop on this easy/NAI/PL/whatever wagon (DRK would be the most suspicious), and when things got hot there was a counterwagon on a now confirmed townie, there's still nothing to indicate NM's alignment.

So says waffles.

[SlingshotWaffles]

Not_Mafia- null
DeathRowKitty- null scum
Cheetory6- null Town
Hiraki- lean Town
CCC- lean scum
Grendel- lean Town
MuttonChopMagic- conf Town(?)
SlingshotWaffles- me
Backhand- null scum
Nero Cain- lean scum
NotTheRealPaul- prob Town
kraska77- conf Town(?)

Something like that.

[kraska77]

NotTheRealPaul- prob Town

So then....why are you voting him...........?

[kraska77]

slingshots reads:

me, mutton
paul, hiraki, grendel
cheetory
---
nm
---
drk, backhand
nc

pick one of your 3 scumreads and vote there

[MuttonChopMagic]

i think slingshot is scum
his play is not fun

[SlingshotWaffles]

NotTheRealPaul- prob Town

So then....why are you voting him...........?

Because he's not claiming.

[SlingshotWaffles]

i think slingshot is scum
his play is not fun

So I'm scum because you don't like the way I play?

[Grendel]

NotTheRealPaul- prob Town

So then....why are you voting him...........?

Because he's not claiming.

If you think he is town then give him space to wifom scum.

Pressuring a pr to out themselves prematurely is not good play.

Vote a scum read instead.

[MuttonChopMagic]

i think slingshot is scum
his play is not fun

So I'm scum because you don't like the way I play?

no, I've met lots of new players that aren't the best
you're scum because 3veeyrhing you post is defensive and useless