OPEN 687: JUNGLE OLIGARCHY (GAME OVER)

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #1750 (ISO) » Wed Jun 21, 2017 7:49 pm

If I get lynched you lynch him tomorrow, you get the werewolves to claim, and you give them the win. Unless Comm flips werewolf in which case let mafia have the win since they deserve it far more than any team he's on does.

Realeo · Post Post #1751 (ISO) » Wed Jun 21, 2017 7:49 pm

In post 1749, RadiantCowbells wrote:Alright, I am 100% convinced that Commknight is Mafia!scum.

VOTE: Commknight

Try werewolf.

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #1752 (ISO) » Wed Jun 21, 2017 7:50 pm

I don't think so.

I think that the mafia team is CommKnight, Vedith, BTD6.

I think that the werewolves are Dunnstral and Fitz.

I think that Kmd4390, myself, and you are town.

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #1753 (ISO) » Wed Jun 21, 2017 7:51 pm

Commknight's play reads like he's mafia who saw the opportunity to get a quick win by lynching Dunnstral who isn't part of his team.

There's no way, no way in hell, commknight's fixation that I will for some reason be a part of the group of 3 chosen by mafia comes from anything besides mafia.

CommKnight · Post Post #1754 (ISO) » Wed Jun 21, 2017 7:52 pm

In post 1752, RadiantCowbells wrote:I don't think so.

I think that the mafia team is CommKnight, Vedith, BTD6.

I think that the werewolves are Dunnstral and Fitz.

I think that Kmd4390, myself, and you are town.

@Realeo, look at the last line there. How convenient that your other TR is now RC's TR.

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #1755 (ISO) » Wed Jun 21, 2017 7:53 pm

Is it convenient?

Dunnstral doesn't make sense with Kmd4390.

You don't make sense in any pairing besides CommKnight and VEdith.

I think there's a non-zero chance that Dunnstral is just town and its Fitz/Kmd4390 but I'm not going to deal with that situation because the werewolves aren't my problem until you mafia fucks get put into line.

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #1756 (ISO) » Wed Jun 21, 2017 7:55 pm

Like you say convenient but

In post 1700, RadiantCowbells wrote:okay I'm going to go out on a limb and say that the remaining town is NOT in btd6/vedith/fitz/dunnstral

With you claiming scum, why would Kmd4390 not be my next townread?

CommKnight · Post Post #1757 (ISO) » Wed Jun 21, 2017 7:55 pm

This is some OMGUS level shit even for you RC. I call you mafia, you now call me mafia. I voted you, now you voted me. Like this is RC flailing because he doesn't have control of the game like he wants to have as scum.

CommKnight · Post Post #1758 (ISO) » Wed Jun 21, 2017 7:57 pm

VOTE: RadiantCowbells This flailing is too much to bypass. I will NOT let RC win as mafia and gloat about how good his play was when it was shit and I read it easily within a few posts of replacing in.

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #1759 (ISO) » Wed Jun 21, 2017 7:58 pm

'flailing'

use more buzzwords.
use more ate.

you do not win this game from here on out.

Realeo · Post Post #1760 (ISO) » Wed Jun 21, 2017 7:58 pm

Here's the thing with mafia!Commknight.

Werewolf has incentive to lynch mafia while mafia is pretty much mislynch-go-lucky.

There are 5 people on Hiraki's wagon. Maximum of 2 town on that wagon since I (town) and Hiraki (town) won't vote him.

You tell me that there is town KMD + 4 scums on that wagon.

You tell me that commknight is mafia.

But the logical consquence is s that Hiraki's wagon

consists of 2 werewolf and 2 mafia and a town

What the fuck is werewolf doing in Hiraki's wagon?

I don't buy that when werewolf hesitates with Dunnstal, they trigger-go-lucky with Hiraki.

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #1761 (ISO) » Wed Jun 21, 2017 7:59 pm

In post 1760, Realeo wrote:What the fuck is werewolf doing in Hiraki's wagon?

Who was the counterwagon? DUNNSTRAL.

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #1762 (ISO) » Wed Jun 21, 2017 8:01 pm

Werewolves are bad for being on that wagon. I don't think that the werewolves thought this game through as much as you seem to think they did though the no kill suggests otherwise.

Realize, Realeo, that Commknight is going to prevent us from lynching mafia regardless of whether he is mafia. Lynching a werewolf today is far from the worst thing that we could do.

Do you agree with me that Commknight's play doesn't really add up and the direction that it doesn't add up points to him being mafia?

Realeo · Post Post #1763 (ISO) » Wed Jun 21, 2017 8:01 pm

RadiantCowbells wrote:
In post 1760, Realeo wrote:What the fuck is werewolf doing in Hiraki's wagon?
Who was the counterwagon? DUNNSTRAL.

Yeah, but then mafia is supposed to blitz ww!Dunnstral, not town!Hiraki

From mafia's perspective, both are equally the same.

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #1764 (ISO) » Wed Jun 21, 2017 8:03 pm

Neither faction are informed. How do you know both factions didn't think they were lynching the other faction?

You're reading too far into the wrong sorts of details. Focus on Commknight's play. Do you agree with how my read has progressed on him?

CommKnight · Post Post #1765 (ISO) » Wed Jun 21, 2017 8:03 pm

(2) Dunnstral - Realeo, Hiraki
(0) Flubbernugget
(0) Realeo
(0) Vedith
(LYNCH) Hiraki - Vedith, kmd4390, BTD6_maker, havingfitz, Dunnstral
(1) Hellfire Missile - Flubbernugget
(0) kmd4390
(0) BTD6_maker
(0) havingfitz

(1) Not Voting - Hellfire Missile

Just saying, Realeo makes a good point. There's no way all 3 mafia + 2 WW's lynched Hiraki. Making RC that much more confirmed scum since the 3rd townie helped mislynch.

CommKnight · Post Post #1766 (ISO) » Wed Jun 21, 2017 8:05 pm

Flubber even voted HM both D1 and D3 ending, which gives me further reason to continue the push on the slot. Obviously Flubber seen something in HM's play like I'm seeing in RC's.

VCA says RC is gonna be mafia.

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #1767 (ISO) » Wed Jun 21, 2017 8:06 pm

This flailing is too much to bypass.

Posture

I will NOT let RC win as mafia and gloat about how good his play was when it was shit and I read it easily within a few posts of replacing in.

Posture

This is some OMGUS level shit even for you RC.

OMGUS implies that I'm town.

Like this is RC flailing because he doesn't have control of the game like he wants to have as scum.

Scum talking point that he repeats but doesn't fully understand. Realeo townreads me so if I were scum I've done enough and I have all the control I need.

How convenient that your other TR is now RC's TR.

Did he address how that actually lined up perfectly with my previously stated reads?
Does his push on me feel like it's a genuine progression or does it feel like he feels like he has to push on me?

With my TR on Realeo, that doesn't leave much room for you being town, now does it?

No one as town says stuff like this.

I wouldn't be surprised if BTD is a wolf.

Why's BTD a wolf?

Hunch and because of the sudden look in his direction now that I'm looking at RC.

Wait Realeo was the one who broached the subject. So basically he just said that BTD6 was wolf (aka should not lynch today) because hunch. then lied about the rest of the reasoning. k.

This is the post of a mafia scum-fuck who doesn't like being called a spade.

Posture

Also I think that him repeatedly calling me mafia points to him being mafia more than it points to him being werewolf.

I

do not believe

he believes that I'm scum at this juncture.

That points to him being mafia.

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #1768 (ISO) » Wed Jun 21, 2017 8:07 pm

In post 1765, CommKnight wrote:Just saying, Realeo makes a good point. There's no way all 3 mafia + 2 WW's lynched Hiraki. Making RC that much more confirmed scum since the 3rd townie helped mislynch.

They didn't. You're mafia.

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #1769 (ISO) » Wed Jun 21, 2017 8:09 pm

Mafia thought Hiraki was werewolf, I'm sure of it.

Realeo · Post Post #1770 (ISO) » Wed Jun 21, 2017 8:10 pm

Quick question RC.

Your premise is that Vedith/Dunnstral is in the same team.

How come the conclusion is Vedith/Dunstral in the different team, do I miss a premise change?

CommKnight · Post Post #1771 (ISO) » Wed Jun 21, 2017 8:12 pm

You do realize I'm sitting here looking at the VCA, looking at your play, looking at your terrible OMGUS and shaking my head at the poor flailing of a mafia member. You switched from Dunn to me in a flail because you're cornered and worried about being outed now. I switched because I want to catch you red-handed.

Like if you want me to think you're town, you're going about it in a terrible way.

You're flailing your reads, you're flailing your votes. I think I'll let Realeo pick you apart. I've already made up my mind.

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #1772 (ISO) » Wed Jun 21, 2017 8:13 pm

Because Commknight trying to push the lynch onto Dunnstral specifically strongly suggests that they are not scumbuddies with the way things panned out.

I believe that Comm is mafia beyond doubt. Vedith/Dunn can be werewolves together I guess? and then the remaining mafia is like fitz?

But I don't feel like Commknight would have made a point of hard jumping onto Dunnstral specifically if both of those choices were not mafia. I think he would have just lay back and let things go how they would.

That jump onto Dunn reads like he was trying to make sure that the wagon went onto Dunnstral over Vedith.

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #1773 (ISO) » Wed Jun 21, 2017 8:13 pm

Posture posture posture buzzword flail. Your scum play is bad.

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #1774 (ISO) » Wed Jun 21, 2017 8:15 pm

Like I felt like Commknight's opening happened for a reason. If both of my lynch choices were not!mafia I don't think that, regardless of how discussion went in scumchat, they would have jumped on me like that.

I was trying to get Vedith lynched, Commknight chainsawed me, wasn't working, jumped ship to try to lynch Dunnstral, who is not!Mafia, then when I figured out what was going on he jumped back onto me.

Is there anything you don't understand about my read on Commknight's progression?