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Post Post #25 (ISO) » Thu Jun 22, 2017 3:18 am

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In post 22, Writers Bloque wrote:You're not wrong but it seems pointless to have these neighborhoods just to start with massclaiming them


I think there's a way to utilize the mechanics to town benefit. Just going with what seems instinctively "correct" right off the bat really isn't something that's appealing


Like, this is a question we have to answer at this second? I don't think so
the neighbourhoods can't even die, because of the neighbourizer function. it is highly doubtful claiming even matters considering you can just add whoever anyway and it makes it easier to express reads on people.
but if people don't want to do it we don't have to i guess.
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Post Post #26 (ISO) » Thu Jun 22, 2017 3:21 am

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In post 25, MarioManiac4 wrote:it is highly doubtful claiming even matters considering you can just add whoever anyway
But if that's really your opinion, why were you pushing us to claim?
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Post Post #27 (ISO) » Thu Jun 22, 2017 3:23 am

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In post 26, GinghamDog wrote:
In post 25, MarioManiac4 wrote:it is highly doubtful claiming even matters considering you can just add whoever anyway
But if that's really your opinion, why were you pushing us to claim?
by "matters" i meant "matters negatively" because i'm assuming the negative implications are that scum can strategically kill because of the hoods
we still have the benefit of being able to speak about towny/scummy things in hoods
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Post Post #28 (ISO) » Thu Jun 22, 2017 3:24 am

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MarioManiac4 wrote:so, what do y'all think of massclaiming hoods?
Really my only issue is that you had to start with this out of the gate

GinghamDog wrote:Meh, even if you don't agree with what MM is saying, would scum really stick their neck out this early like this?


It's not like I intended quicklynching. Rope is in this season, Mario's probably comfortable.



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Post Post #29 (ISO) » Thu Jun 22, 2017 3:26 am

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That was intended more for beeboy.
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Post Post #30 (ISO) » Thu Jun 22, 2017 3:26 am

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In post 28, Writers Bloque wrote:
MarioManiac4 wrote:so, what do y'all think of massclaiming hoods?
Really my only issue is that you had to start with this out of the gate
Why is that bad? Usually I nitpick at little things to get out of RVS. In this game, we have something to discuss to avoid that, and although I was planning to say it to get the game started and reactions, I thought about it and I like the idea.
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Post Post #31 (ISO) » Thu Jun 22, 2017 3:32 am

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In post 29, GinghamDog wrote:That was intended more for beeboy.
Do you still want to lynch you tho?
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In post 28, Writers Bloque wrote:
MarioManiac4 wrote:so, what do y'all think of massclaiming hoods?
Really my only issue is that you had to start with this out of the gate
Why is that bad? Usually I nitpick at little things to get out of RVS. In this game, we have something to discuss to avoid that, and although I was planning to say it to get the game started and reactions, I thought about it and I like the idea.

Sometimes a central discussion lets scum blend in by "discussing". They can just flow right in to the game by talking about the same thing we're talking about.



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Post Post #32 (ISO) » Thu Jun 22, 2017 3:40 am

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In post 23, GinghamDog wrote:Meh, even if you don't agree with what MM is saying, would scum really stick their neck out this early like this?
I don't see why scum wouldn't do that?
Like talking about theory is what scum love to do because you aren't really committing to much. Also I wouldn't consider his play very aggro atm or at least not aggro enough where I can consider it not scum.
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Post Post #33 (ISO) » Thu Jun 22, 2017 3:41 am

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happy with my vote
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Post Post #34 (ISO) » Thu Jun 22, 2017 3:55 am

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In post 33, MarioManiac4 wrote:happy with my vote
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Post Post #35 (ISO) » Thu Jun 22, 2017 3:56 am

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Post Post #36 (ISO) » Thu Jun 22, 2017 4:56 am

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VOTE: beeboy
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Massclaiming hoods is stupid. We should just claim them as it becomes necessary, like Wroter's Bloque has said.
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Post Post #37 (ISO) » Thu Jun 22, 2017 4:57 am

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VOTE: Edosurist
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Post Post #38 (ISO) » Thu Jun 22, 2017 5:15 am

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In post 12, MarioManiac4 wrote:a) town won't try and hide their hoods like it's their Special Thing and place way too much importance on them
No wait hang on a second, the fuck is this?

Your argument is basically "town wouldn't want to hide their neighborhoods" to "why would we claim our neighborhoods"

This is stupid as fuck circle reasoning.
In post 12, MarioManiac4 wrote:b) hood reads exist and if we don't massclaim hoods there will be hugely stretching town/scum cases on people and the game will be extremely confusing.
So your argument is reads are hard, neighborhoods make them harder?

If a hood read became important, i would expect it to be claimed.

The only reason right now to claim a hood, would be a town member slipping in their neighborhood and being worried that they slipped into a scum neighborhood (though i don't think that would matter all things told)
In post 20, MarioManiac4 wrote:besides it's incredibly easy for scum to deduce who neighbours are
unless we go to lengths to hide hoods which is just silly
Ummm what?

Then it would be easy for townies to know who the neighbors are.

Your reasoning is stupid.

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Post Post #39 (ISO) » Thu Jun 22, 2017 5:29 am

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a) that's not what my argument is, it's that some townies will place too much importance on the hoods when they could be scum-infested. that is antitown
b) that's also not what my argument is. i have made posts on this
c) yes it's pretty easy for townies to know who neighbours are if they actually try to look at things, easier for scum though, and there is no reason to hard-oppose it

even not liking the massclaim strat there's no reason to vote me here so zzzzz
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Post Post #40 (ISO) » Thu Jun 22, 2017 5:30 am

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In post 36, Edosurist wrote:VOTE: beeboy
CHOOCHOO

Massclaiming hoods is stupid. We should just claim them as it becomes necessary, like Wroter's Bloque has said.
^not trying to read into the discussion, focusing on the surface-level setup discussion
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Post Post #41 (ISO) » Thu Jun 22, 2017 5:37 am

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Post Post #42 (ISO) » Thu Jun 22, 2017 5:40 am

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sure it's not great whatever it's page 2
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Post Post #43 (ISO) » Thu Jun 22, 2017 7:48 am

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In post 28, Writers Bloque wrote:Really my only issue is that you had to start with this out of the gate
What did you find problematic about that?

On claiming: I'm slightly in favor just because it'll allow us to be more transparent about reads. However, it seems like there's a lot of pushback and if we're going to claim we would want to do it fully.

Theory talk is pretty easy for scum to fake so there's not much to form reads on here...

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Post Post #44 (ISO) » Thu Jun 22, 2017 8:14 am

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In post 36, Edosurist wrote:VOTE: beeboy
CHOOCHOO

Massclaiming hoods is stupid. We should just claim them as it becomes necessary, like Wroter's Bloque has said.
Why beeboy if you're agreeing with him?
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Post Post #45 (ISO) » Thu Jun 22, 2017 8:48 am

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In post 43, Sobolev Space wrote:
In post 28, Writers Bloque wrote:Really my only issue is that you had to start with this out of the gate
What did you find problematic about that?
Writers Bloque wrote:
MarioManiac4 wrote:
In post 28, Writers Bloque wrote:
MarioManiac4 wrote:so, what do y'all think of massclaiming hoods?
Really my only issue is that you had to start with this out of the gate
Why is that bad? Usually I nitpick at little things to get out of RVS. In this game, we have something to discuss to avoid that, and although I was planning to say it to get the game started and reactions, I thought about it and I like the idea.

Sometimes a central discussion lets scum blend in by "discussing". They can just flow right in to the game by talking about the same thing we're talking about.



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Post Post #46 (ISO) » Thu Jun 22, 2017 8:57 am

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When do you think Mario should have brought up massclaiming neighborhoods?
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Post Post #47 (ISO) » Thu Jun 22, 2017 9:15 am

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I dunno. Odd question.

Maybe not at the start?


I can't guarantee no one else would have brought it up if he hadn't, either. Will say I townlean there now

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Post Post #48 (ISO) » Thu Jun 22, 2017 9:15 am

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Jesus Christ it's page two


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Post Post #49 (ISO) » Thu Jun 22, 2017 9:19 am

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It was definitely not zach
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