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Post Post #150 (ISO) » Thu Jun 22, 2017 6:35 pm

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In post 149, MarioManiac4 wrote:
Yes, I do, because it's boring, pointless, and would be better focused on you actually trying to find scum.

I've read the last few pages. What happened was Treblesome is voting you for ~room things~ which may or may not be scummy, you responded with hyperagression, and Treblesome scumread you for that. Tell me if I missed anything. I might respond to more details later, but it's not my highest priority. I'm not discrediting your vote.
Why would I need to discredit a vote that doesn't even have any reasoning?
Read your 2 bolded sentences again, my vote is still legitimate and trying to find scum, you saying it has no reasoning is a lie, and you are trying to discredit my vote in the very same post your asking why you would need to discredit it.
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Post Post #151 (ISO) » Thu Jun 22, 2017 6:40 pm

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You're not even pushing me for reactions though. What you are basically doing is continuing with a "reaction" test vote on Page 7, without even pushing me on reactions.
Reasoning doesn't matter if the reasoning doesn't make me scum at all.
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Post Post #152 (ISO) » Thu Jun 22, 2017 6:49 pm

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Is this not a reaction?

Like you really do seem overly concerned about a vote on you that according to you doesn't have a reason.
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Post Post #153 (ISO) » Thu Jun 22, 2017 6:53 pm

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No, you're reacting to me. I'm asking you questions. You responded unsatisfactorily. This doesn't mean you have actually been reaction-testing me.
I'm concerned about your vote on me because I think it comes from scum. If I was actually concerned about my ~wagon of rvsness~ I'd be pushing on all of the votes, or at least ones that actually gave reasons for me to be scum.
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Post Post #154 (ISO) » Fri Jun 23, 2017 12:58 am

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Don't like Jason wagon at this point. Some scummy stuff about him but says to me him vs Treble is TvT.


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Post Post #155 (ISO) » Fri Jun 23, 2017 1:02 am

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And I read the whole "THIS SITE HAS NO CLUE HOW TO READ AGGRESSION OR EMOTIONALITY" thing when it was posted

JW seems pretty authentic to me. reminds me of KidAmn town game . Of course I know scum fake these things

Not enough to foster a hard scumread on him right now. But the way he's playing opens him up if he's scum so I'm not really concerned?
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Post Post #156 (ISO) » Fri Jun 23, 2017 3:06 am

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@WB, can you explain where your fascination with me comes from? At least half your posts in this game have centered around me. I get the impression you've been trying to pressure me and make me uncomfortable, which would explain the empty threat to lynch me in post 28. You claim you want to make scum uncomfortable, but I don't see why you'd scum read me, especially so early as you apparently did. Can you clarify?

I do have a slight town lean on WB for this very reason. I'm not sure if WB's interest in me could be called tunneling exactly, but in my limited experience, following someone around like this is more of a town thing to do, whereas scum would be more open to going after the next best thing.
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Post Post #157 (ISO) » Fri Jun 23, 2017 3:09 am

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Poor choice of words in my last sentence. I'm saying that scum would be more likely to flirt around with the most likely wagons to be lynched, and less likely to stay on one person consistently.
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Post Post #158 (ISO) » Fri Jun 23, 2017 3:16 am

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I only have an eye of who's posted and I want to have my vote on who I can consider a sr at this point


Nothing personal




"Do you want to lynch you?" Is a largely useless question. I wasn't pushing you seriously before


I want beeboy and edo to post more. I want Zulfy to post. I have trs on MM4 Jason and Treble right now. Sobolev Space hasn't necessarily made a negative impression on me.


I just think you've played a pretty safe game here. You ask a lot of questions and your stances are safe. I don't know you or how you play so I'm just going off what I feel from your posts total.




It's also pretty early for me to be actually tunneling anyone.
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Post Post #159 (ISO) » Fri Jun 23, 2017 3:19 am

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Edos is also an okay vote for me. Zulfy probably not rn
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Post Post #160 (ISO) » Fri Jun 23, 2017 3:24 am

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In post 123, Treblesome wrote:There's no read on Jason though.
Like to parse this, your statement is we're town, you don't see scum motivation in what we're doing, but because of neighbourhood it sounds like they would have justification for misreading.
Why can't be right? Why is Jason town in your eyes?
It's not so much that I was town-reading Jason (although I lean slightly more town on him now since last night). I just felt like the argument was more likely to be T vs T. I don't think Jason's neighborhood reaction to your "slip" was necessarily indicative of any one alignment. At the time, I was fairly null on both your slots, and therefore used the approach I picked up from mastina: if you can't really discern the alignments in an argument, town vs town is the safer bet until more information becomes available. You may or may not agree with that, but it's how I do it.

I'm not a huge fan of reads lists, but to organize my current thoughts a little better:

More townish:
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Sobolev Space
JasonWazza
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Post Post #161 (ISO) » Fri Jun 23, 2017 3:28 am

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In post 158, Writers Bloque wrote: I just think you've played a pretty safe game here. You ask a lot of questions and your stances are safe. I don't know you or how you play so I'm just going off what I feel from your posts total.
That's just how my early play is. I'm always a late bloomer, gaining more confidence and conviction as more clues are available. My Day 1 scum-hunting is pretty garbage I'll admit.
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Post Post #162 (ISO) » Fri Jun 23, 2017 4:09 am

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As a reminder in case it gets overlooked, Edosurist's vote on beeboy didn't make sense, when the rest of his post seemed to be pressuring Mario instead. I don't know if it was a mistake or what.
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Post Post #163 (ISO) » Fri Jun 23, 2017 5:34 am

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In post 156, GinghamDog wrote:but in my limited experience, following someone around like this is more of a town thing to do, whereas scum would be more open to going after the next best thing.
Why do you think town/scum do this? Generally, I see the opposite.
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Post Post #164 (ISO) » Fri Jun 23, 2017 5:40 am

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Just going by my experience. A town player will pick up on something they think is scummy and zero in on that player with a death grip, believing they're catching scum when they really aren't, whereas scum will keep their options open and usually not pressure a player who hasn't received much attention beforehand. I'm sure the opposite is capable of happening, but again, just my experience.
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Post Post #165 (ISO) » Fri Jun 23, 2017 5:41 am

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Plus, scum usually don't want to be seen tunneling a townie, because they look all the worse after the flip.
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Post Post #166 (ISO) » Fri Jun 23, 2017 5:44 am

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to be honest I like never see that at all but your position on it seems genuine so it doesn't really matter
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Post Post #167 (ISO) » Fri Jun 23, 2017 6:58 am

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In post 159, Writers Bloque wrote:Edos is also an okay vote for me. Zulfy probably not rn
Explain this. Both have done nothing.
In post 154, Writers Bloque wrote:Don't like Jason wagon at this point.
How do you dislike the wagon but TR both people voting him?
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Post Post #168 (ISO) » Fri Jun 23, 2017 7:00 am

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In post 147, JasonWazza wrote:Why is it the first thing back you do is try and discredit the vote and not react to anything else that happened in 3/4 pages?
TR on mario is waning
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Post Post #169 (ISO) » Fri Jun 23, 2017 7:02 am

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Also wanted to apologize for low activity so far/coming up. I have a friend staying with me this weekend but I'll be more active starting Sunday
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Post Post #170 (ISO) » Fri Jun 23, 2017 7:06 am

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In post 160, GinghamDog wrote:I'm not a huge fan of reads lists, but to organize my current thoughts a little better:

More townish:
MarioManiac4
Sobolev Space
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More scummish (based mostly on POE):
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Zulfy
I spent a while looking at this. I'm pretty sure it's town
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Post Post #171 (ISO) » Fri Jun 23, 2017 7:39 am

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What makes it town? Basically my only scum reads are the inactive players (although Edo's vote rubbed me wrong).
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Post Post #172 (ISO) » Fri Jun 23, 2017 7:55 am

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In post 168, Sobolev Space wrote:
In post 147, JasonWazza wrote:Why is it the first thing back you do is try and discredit the vote and not react to anything else that happened in 3/4 pages?
TR on mario is waning
i feel so betrayed
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Post Post #173 (ISO) » Fri Jun 23, 2017 7:57 am

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In post 167, Sobolev Space wrote:
In post 159, Writers Bloque wrote:Edos is also an okay vote for me. Zulfy probably not rn
Explain this. Both have done nothing.
Not true. Zulfy has a post saying he wasn't going to do anything at the moment. I don't think it's scummy from him.


Edosurist's vote on beeboy with context was weird. The fact that he said nothing else can go either way.
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In post 154, Writers Bloque wrote:Don't like Jason wagon at this point.
How do you dislike the wagon but TR both people voting him?


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Post Post #174 (ISO) » Fri Jun 23, 2017 8:05 am

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In post 171, GinghamDog wrote:What makes it town? Basically my only scum reads are the inactive players (although Edo's vote rubbed me wrong).
That's kind of it. I feel like scum trying to fake a read list wouldn't use such an obvious organizing principle while town might unconsciously do so.
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In post 154, Writers Bloque wrote:Don't like Jason wagon at this point.
How do you dislike the wagon but TR both people voting him?
Town can't drive town wagons?
I interpreted your quote as saying that you thought the wagon was scummy or sketchy.

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