Mini Normal 1919: Endgame

[ThinkBig]

official vote count

---

Empiricus

(3): Boonskiies, Dunkerdoodles, Fykus

L-2

Fykus

(2): Mulch, TwoFace

L-3

Not Voting

(3): Klazam, Branson, Empiricus

With 8 alive, it takes 5 to lynch.

The day 3 deadline is in

: (expired on 2017-07-05 23:47:43)

Good shabbat and Chodesh Tov! I am signing off for shabbat. See you all tomorrow night!

[Fykus]

In another game someone said that the cop should always investigate the counter wagon.

Link? Because I find it hard to believe that somebody said to investigate a counter wagon to scum.

Typically a counter wagon to scum is on town. That's why it's a counter wagon.

Hmm, fair point. Sorry I haven't had cop roles many times before, i think this is my second actual cop role and the third was a joat with cop actions. Can't link the game though sorry, its [against the rules]

[TwoFace]

Can't link the game though sorry, its [against the rules]

[ThinkBig]

Please do not discuss any ongoing games or even hint at any ongoing games. You will be severely punished for breaking that rule

[Fykus]

sorry teebs

[Mulch]

Can't link the game though sorry, its [against the rules]

[Mulch]

CAN WE DO SOMETHING

[Fykus]

sure, put a vote on emp

[Dunkerdoodles]

Another idea: we lynch fykus today if they flip town both me and boon check emp. One of us dies but the other gets a result. If I die and boon says emp is scum we lynch emp. If boon dies i get a result on emp and if they dont have a gun we can look elsewhere for last scum.
If emp flips town we know last scum is boon because he lied about his results.

[Klazam]

i understand the essence of your plan

not parsing that last sentence though.

[Mulch]

I have an idea: can we make a list of all claims and results? I must be getting confused

[Dunkerdoodles]

Me: gunsmith
n1: sergtacos: no gun
n2: fykus: has a gun
Fykus: 3-shot vanilla cop
n1: sergtacos: vanilla
n2: emp: vanilla
Boon: odd-night cop
n1: mulch: town
i think i got them all.

[Boonskiies]

I think I'd want Dunker lynched before Fykus. Mafia Gunsmith fits really nicely into this setup, but I still feel like I'd want to go Emp over both of them.

[Mulch]

Dunker's attitude with the claim rings town

[TwoFace]

I think I'd want Dunker lynched before Fykus. Mafia Gunsmith fits really nicely into this setup, but I still feel like I'd want to go Emp over both of them.

In like 30 times there has been a gunsmith there has only been 2 scum gunsmiths.

You really think that's what happening here? Such a small percentage

[Boonskiies]

Pretty sure I've been in more than 2 games with a mafia gunsmith.

[Boonskiies]

I won't go Fykus either way probably. I was pretty good at reading Tchill/Carca, and I'm going to fight against a Fykus lynch.

[TwoFace]

Pretty sure I've been in more than 2 games with a mafia gunsmith.

FRom 1400 to 1911 I only saw 2 and 1 had a town gunsmith with it.

Maybe large games? I'm not checking those.

It's possible I missed some since I'm on a phone.

[Mulch]

Dunkerdoodles I just like his tone

[Branson]

I think I'm finally recovering from my sickness, so I'll get to this later today.

[Boonskiies]

Pretty sure I've been in more than 2 games with a mafia gunsmith.

FRom 1400 to 1911 I only saw 2 and 1 had a town gunsmith with it.

Maybe large games? I'm not checking those.

It's possible I missed some since I'm on a phone.

I tried looking for some, and couldn't necessarily find any besides one either. I may be wrong, but I never felt like Mafia gunsmith was that uncommon. Maybe I just see it in themed games.

With a Vig, and 2 cop roles, then mafia gunsmith could sniff us out and be like a role cop of some sorts. He is confirmed gunsmith, I feel, though with Fykus actually having a gun.

Emp is confirmed Vanilla, so he could only be a goon, and with a Cop, vanilla cop, gunsmith, vig claimed, with at least 3 of those being confirmed, I don't think the last mafia member would be a goon. So I think I'm going to unvote.

Unvote

Annoyingly, it all comes back to Klazam for me.

[Boonskiies]

I actually don't see any reason for ScumFykus to claim Vanilla on Emp. He could have lied and stated elsewhere. Emp was a likely mislynch candidate, and that would have been a semi risky claim.
Dunker claimed Fykus had a gun, and that is true. I don't necessarily think any of our roles are fake.

What gets me a little weirded out is why am I the only one that seems limited? Gunsmith/3shot vanilla cop/vigilante? 3 shot is barely a limitation.

[Boonskiies]

UNVOTE:

Oops, forgot to do it this way.

[TwoFace]

I mean ideally I'd like to lynch scum today but it doesn't really matter as we have mislynches available and somebody should be able to narrow the field. Hopefully

[Klazam]

tbh i dont know where to go from here. I agree with Emp being town, because i find it unlikely that theres only a limited roleblocker on the mafia's side here.

Dunk being a mafia gunsmith seems possible, didnt consider that, and it would explain his eagerness to claim because its a solid fakeclaim here. would also mean he only has to kill you(boon) to be safe from investigations because Fykus(who is town) wouldnt be able to return an actual guilty on him.

His "plan" that he put forth is a solid route to victory for scumdunk also.

Twoface, i know its unlikely, but unlikely is not impossible here.

So- Dunk, Branson, scum has to be in one of those. IF you guys want to hang me, thats fine by me, if you also hang those two.

Also, Boon being counterbalanced by the odd night roleblocker makes perfect sense to me, so boon is town.

Boon, Emp, Mulch, Fykus, Twoface being all town, leaves me, dunk, branson. and im pretty sure we have 3 lynches ahead of us, so im perfectly fine with that going down.