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Frosted Kelvin Bran Goon
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What the hell did I do? Am I posting too much? But if I collect my thoughts into a wall, nobody fucking reads them.
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DrCirno Mafia Scum
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In post 1669, Frosted Kelvin Bran wrote:So to be clear, Alisae, Gin is scum because...? And this is a policy lynch or not? Can a policy lynch on scum even exist? Like, I think everybody "policy lynches" scum.
-Kelvin
Policy lynches are when a player is so toxic the game stalls due to their play and they have no needed night role, or would solve the game by dying.In post 1670, DrCirno wrote:Anyway let's talk about Rauth.
Why is he scum? I can think of one reasom why, but I still want to hear it.
Rauth is scum due to his not reading hurry vote on Aronis, the only push he's made was based on a "scumslip", and he wants zero softing.ShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
You're letting Titus win the game by herself.Good luck now I guess.You have no chance to win.~Tywin
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I will.In post 1676, Frosted Kelvin Bran wrote:What the hell did I do? Am I posting too much? But if I collect my thoughts into a wall, nobody fucking reads them.
-KelvinShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
You're letting Titus win the game by herself.Good luck now I guess.You have no chance to win.~Tywin
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Frosted Kelvin Bran Goon
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Alrighty then, let's work together.In post 1665, Titus wrote:Of course. I know my weaknesses. I say them to try and foster a dialogue. Agreeing to disagree is ok. I felt like I could never get that in girls. I was correct the opening was fake because I had witnessed Nacho sort Tammy and he wasn't there. So even if you disagree, it's important to get to the essence.
So your reads? How do I get through to QR?
As I said in two earlier posts (maybe you missed them), I've got no reads and I'm not scumhunting. I've come to the conclusion that it's pointless for me to post reads. When I was going to retire a month or so ago, I went on many rants about how I think the game of Mafia is primarily random bullshit and it's impossible to be good at it.
I'm still not sure that assessment's false, but I'm trying to experiment now and see if I can find ways to make the game enjoyable for me, while still being an asset to the town. Part of that means not bothering with reads. They frustrate me because I'm pretty consistently always wrong, especially when I try to build a case on somebody. And what's more, I think they make me more likely to lean towards confirmation bias and tunnel vision.
So rather than that, I am trying a more flexible playstyle that is more about interact with others and helping them develop and better sense of the game. If my gut tells me to vote or I think I can use it for pressure, I will. Otherwise, I'll vote with somebody whose scumhunting abilities I trust, someone who produces a good case, or wherever the other heads of the Hydra want to place the vote. I assume that this won't be a popular playstyle, but I fully plan to develop it for the time being, so I imagine I'll be on the receiving end of a few policy lynches in my games to come.
With all that out of the way, what would you like to talk about?
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DrCirno Mafia Scum
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....that's just your average rvs wagon voteIn post 1678, Titus wrote:Rauth is scum due to his not reading hurry vote on Aronis
Lack of his own opinion compared to his questioning. I can dig that.In post 1678, Titus wrote:the only push he's made was based on a "scumslip"
"Not agreeing with my doctrine == scum" fallacyIn post 1678, Titus wrote:and he wants zero softing.Vote: DrCirno-
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Frosted Kelvin Bran Goon
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Frosted Kelvin Bran Goon
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Yeah, people say that to me all the time. I've never agreed before and I doubt I'll start now. Sometimes theory discussion is important to understanding the players that you are playing with, getting them to understand you, and getting them (and yourself) to consider alternate perspectives. Like, I don't get why that's only obvious to me.In post 1677, DrCirno wrote:It wasn't really directed at you but
Your posts ever since I replaced in belong in Mafia Discussion thread.
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Frosted Kelvin Bran Goon
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DrCirno Mafia Scum
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Titus She/herMoon WalkerShe/her
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Ok, well I find it easier when the other slot has reads. As long as you post detailed thoughts, I'll call what you are doing scumhunting.In post 1681, Frosted Kelvin Bran wrote:
Alrighty then, let's work together.In post 1665, Titus wrote:Of course. I know my weaknesses. I say them to try and foster a dialogue. Agreeing to disagree is ok. I felt like I could never get that in girls. I was correct the opening was fake because I had witnessed Nacho sort Tammy and he wasn't there. So even if you disagree, it's important to get to the essence.
So your reads? How do I get through to QR?
As I said in two earlier posts (maybe you missed them), I've got no reads and I'm not scumhunting. I've come to the conclusion that it's pointless for me to post reads. When I was going to retire a month or so ago, I went on many rants about how I think the game of Mafia is primarily random bullshit and it's impossible to be good at it.
I'm still not sure that assessment's false, but I'm trying to experiment now and see if I can find ways to make the game enjoyable for me, while still being an asset to the town. Part of that means not bothering with reads. They frustrate me because I'm pretty consistently always wrong, especially when I try to build a case on somebody. And what's more, I think they make me more likely to lean towards confirmation bias and tunnel vision.
So rather than that, I am trying a more flexible playstyle that is more about interact with others and helping them develop and better sense of the game. If my gut tells me to vote or I think I can use it for pressure, I will. Otherwise, I'll vote with somebody whose scumhunting abilities I trust, someone who produces a good case, or wherever the other heads of the Hydra want to place the vote. I assume that this won't be a popular playstyle, but I fully plan to develop it for the time being, so I imagine I'll be on the receiving end of a few policy lynches in my games to come.
With all that out of the way, what would you like to talk about?
-Kelvin
I view QR's tunnel on me as anti-town. How do I get him to move on?ShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
You're letting Titus win the game by herself.Good luck now I guess.You have no chance to win.~Tywin
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Frosted Kelvin Bran Goon
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The thing is, even if you did, most other people won't. They never have for as long as I've played Mafia. And I honestly don't have the time or willpower to wallpost anymore. I'd typically spend a minimum of an hour on a post back in the day. And for what? So I could be wrong and get ignored? That doesn't help anybody. Nah, if I can avoid it, I never want to post a wall again.In post 1679, Titus wrote:
I will.In post 1676, Frosted Kelvin Bran wrote:What the hell did I do? Am I posting too much? But if I collect my thoughts into a wall, nobody fucking reads them.
-Kelvin
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DrCirno Mafia Scum
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Here's your problem.In post 1685, Frosted Kelvin Bran wrote:
Yeah, people say that to meIn post 1677, DrCirno wrote:It wasn't really directed at you but
Your posts ever since I replaced in belong in Mafia Discussion thread.all the time. I've never agreed before and I doubt I'll start now.Sometimestheory discussion is important to understanding the players that you are playing with, getting them to understand you, and getting them (and yourself) to consider alternate perspectives. Like, I don't get why that's only obvious to me.
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Ok, do remember to tailor to your audience. I read everything and process rather quickly.In post 1689, Frosted Kelvin Bran wrote:
The thing is, even if you did, most other people won't. They never have for as long as I've played Mafia. And I honestly don't have the time or willpower to wallpost anymore. I'd typically spend a minimum of an hour on a post back in the day. And for what? So I could be wrong and get ignored? That doesn't help anybody. Nah, if I can avoid it, I never want to post a wall again.In post 1679, Titus wrote:
I will.In post 1676, Frosted Kelvin Bran wrote:What the hell did I do? Am I posting too much? But if I collect my thoughts into a wall, nobody fucking reads them.
-Kelvin
-KelvinShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
You're letting Titus win the game by herself.Good luck now I guess.You have no chance to win.~Tywin
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Frosted Kelvin Bran Goon
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Nothing yet, I'm just now starting to get any kind of handle on the game. Currently I'm doing that by jumping to a random page and... reading through a whole lot of random 79 CE posts that are borderline useless.In post 1687, DrCirno wrote:Some random ISOs!
And some posts that I'd rather not have read.
What's your take on this game thus far?
yay
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Frosted Kelvin Bran Goon
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Alright, feel free to call it whatever you want.In post 1688, Titus wrote:
Ok, well I find it easier when the other slot has reads. As long as you post detailed thoughts, I'll call what you are doing scumhunting.In post 1681, Frosted Kelvin Bran wrote:
Alrighty then, let's work together.In post 1665, Titus wrote:Of course. I know my weaknesses. I say them to try and foster a dialogue. Agreeing to disagree is ok. I felt like I could never get that in girls. I was correct the opening was fake because I had witnessed Nacho sort Tammy and he wasn't there. So even if you disagree, it's important to get to the essence.
So your reads? How do I get through to QR?
As I said in two earlier posts (maybe you missed them), I've got no reads and I'm not scumhunting. I've come to the conclusion that it's pointless for me to post reads. When I was going to retire a month or so ago, I went on many rants about how I think the game of Mafia is primarily random bullshit and it's impossible to be good at it.
I'm still not sure that assessment's false, but I'm trying to experiment now and see if I can find ways to make the game enjoyable for me, while still being an asset to the town. Part of that means not bothering with reads. They frustrate me because I'm pretty consistently always wrong, especially when I try to build a case on somebody. And what's more, I think they make me more likely to lean towards confirmation bias and tunnel vision.
So rather than that, I am trying a more flexible playstyle that is more about interact with others and helping them develop and better sense of the game. If my gut tells me to vote or I think I can use it for pressure, I will. Otherwise, I'll vote with somebody whose scumhunting abilities I trust, someone who produces a good case, or wherever the other heads of the Hydra want to place the vote. I assume that this won't be a popular playstyle, but I fully plan to develop it for the time being, so I imagine I'll be on the receiving end of a few policy lynches in my games to come.
With all that out of the way, what would you like to talk about?
-Kelvin
I view QR's tunnel on me as anti-town. How do I get him to move on?
And yeah, I agree. But as a rule of thumb, I think that's true of tunneling in general. I'm hoping that if I talk to her about read clarification, that might help. And I'm still waiting for her to read my post in response to her case on you. That should make things a bit clearer.
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DrCirno Mafia Scum
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Frosted Kelvin Bran Goon
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My problem is that...? Other people don't like theory discussion in-game, but I think it gives me a better handle on the people I'm playing with and that it would give them a better handle on me if they actually participated?In post 1690, DrCirno wrote:
Here's your problem.In post 1685, Frosted Kelvin Bran wrote:
Yeah, people say that to meIn post 1677, DrCirno wrote:It wasn't really directed at you but
Your posts ever since I replaced in belong in Mafia Discussion thread.all the time. I've never agreed before and I doubt I'll start now.Sometimestheory discussion is important to understanding the players that you are playing with, getting them to understand you, and getting them (and yourself) to consider alternate perspectives. Like, I don't get why that's only obvious to me.
-Kelvin
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mastina She/HerFalse ProphetShe/Her
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Right, almost up-to-date with VCs but not quite there yet.-
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mastina She/HerFalse ProphetShe/Her
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I realize it's a mistake but I'll be eating soon, so.-
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mastina She/HerFalse ProphetShe/Her
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One last time?
Or presumably one last time for a while.
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