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Post Post #1300 (ISO) » Thu Jun 29, 2017 11:29 pm

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I'm trying to think of what it would take to make me not vote Ari right now. A mental break? If Soc is scum it is probably the most amazing mindfuck scum I've ever seen?
In post 1170, Aristophanes wrote:Sorry, I got excited.

Thoughts: A50 and I both have pissed on our sinks which must mean something. If it were a fruit vendor they would have claimed by now, so it's probably a Mafia/3P role. This means neither of us are confirmed to not be scum, but we also have a less likely chance of it.

Leon and Soc are strong townreads, you are basically a Conftown now (once the scumflips occurred here), and Rauth is Jester.

So by PoE, scum has to be Prism or A50. I will re-Iso them as well as Soc and Leon to be sure, and it is possible theres another 3p giving out this Pissy night thing in that group as well (minus A50), but we have this game in the bag otherwise! :)
Ari, this is Day 3. According to you, you copped Prism and I to be the same alignment. Why would you suspect Prism as scum instead of clearing him at this point?
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Post Post #1301 (ISO) » Thu Jun 29, 2017 11:54 pm

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In post 1300, Shadoweh wrote:Ari, this is Day 3. According to you, you copped Prism and I to be the same alignment. Why would you suspect Prism as scum instead of clearing him at this point?
Because Why would I make it obvious there?
Why would I give scum that info when we weren't at a point of a solid win yet??

Like, if I outed then, it would have resulted in a net loss and more uncertainty! I knew you were town already, I didn't need a.scumflip from Transcend to confirm that. I put Soc and Leon in the same category because I was grouping them together next! If I'd outed, there was too much chance of scum turning the game around on us considering the number of players left alive. That double night kill actually basically won us the game!

Like, I have a clear on you. Therefore you and I are for sure town. If we lynch one of Soc and A50 today, you block/protect one of me or the other at night (assuming i draw the NK or scum Nokill) then tomorrow we lynch the final scum if we missed today! I meant it when I said the game was in the bag, but I wasn't going to say why yet, obviously!
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Post Post #1302 (ISO) » Fri Jun 30, 2017 12:33 am

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Official Vote Count 5.02

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Aristophanes: (1)
Socrates
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Almost50: (1)
Jesus Christ

Not Voting:
Shadoweh, Almost50, Aristophanes

With 4 alive, it takes 3 to lynch.

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(expired on 2017-07-13 10:00:00)

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Looks like I fucked up the previous Jesus votes, they didn't say (L-2) ><
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Post Post #1303 (ISO) » Fri Jun 30, 2017 4:49 am

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Personally, I', leaning to believe Aris over Socrates here. I had strong Town reads on both of them earlier, but then Aris dropped a couple of notches due to his dancing around the Chimchar lynch.

However, Socrates pinged me hard yesterdays and rereading I now know why. Socrates seems to have inside info on the Redshirt role and that it "could be resurrected in 3 days". The thought sounds plausible from a "shitfuckery" PoV, but how likely is it to occur to you as a player?

Also, the pick of his investigation target sounds too convenient. You don't want to confirm a townie if you're scum, and you don't want to return a guilty on your buddy, so -knowing Trans was Jailed- that would be the perfect fake target of the cop shot.

Overall, Socrates play in the previous day phase just came off and inconsistent to the point I decided I would not give him anymore of my inventions, and if Shadoweh had agreed to not jail me I would have given her the mystery box instead, although I was 100% sure Leon was Town by the end of the last day phase (but him still having that Doc shot meant I had to find me another target who can use the mystery box).

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Post Post #1304 (ISO) » Fri Jun 30, 2017 4:51 am

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So, while it looks like Aris is the lynch (Socrates + Jesus + Shadoweh) I don't think I'm willing to do that myself.

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Post Post #1305 (ISO) » Fri Jun 30, 2017 7:28 am

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He claimed to get no result first, though. Traditionally a jailkeeper doesn't stop actions on their target so him saying he got No Result on Transcend would need him to know what my role was first.
I do think the last scum is a rolecop because they killed Prism, but that seems to go with Ari's actions (target me, prism, socrates, leon, why would he target leon anyways as a cop?)
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Post Post #1306 (ISO) » Fri Jun 30, 2017 7:31 am

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Also Redshirt is a Jester that wins with scum and has nothing to do with ressurecting, I would assume Soc's inside source is the same as mine. :V
I don't think scum knew anything about Rauth either way.
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Post Post #1307 (ISO) » Fri Jun 30, 2017 10:45 am

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In post 1303, Almost50 wrote:Personally, I', leaning to believe Aris over Socrates here. I had strong Town reads on both of them earlier, but then Aris dropped a couple of notches due to his dancing around the Chimchar lynch.

However, Socrates pinged me hard yesterdays and rereading I now know why. Socrates seems to have inside info on the Redshirt role and that it "could be resurrected in 3 days". The thought sounds plausible from a "shitfuckery" PoV, but how likely is it to occur to you as a player?

Also, the pick of his investigation target sounds too convenient. You don't want to confirm a townie if you're scum, and you don't want to return a guilty on your buddy, so -knowing Trans was Jailed- that would be the perfect fake target of the cop shot.

Overall, Socrates play in the previous day phase just came off and inconsistent to the point I decided I would not give him anymore of my inventions, and if Shadoweh had agreed to not jail me I would have given her the mystery box instead, although I was 100% sure Leon was Town by the end of the last day phase (but him still having that Doc shot meant I had to find me another target who can use the mystery box).
Seriously?

I literally drove a Chimchar wagon to L-1 out of nowhere at the end of day one. You think I bussed a scumbuddy unprovoked like that?

The resurrection comment was referring to chimchar claiming to be jesus. What the fuck does it have to do with the Redshirt?

Who SHOULD I have targeted with the cop investigation? Oh right, I investigated a good player who was controversial and was in fact scum. How convenient. And then I announced it failing before knowing he was jailed.

Nothing I did yesterday was "off".

Ari has one good post, Almost. ONE.

Look at him today! He's just laying down! He's not even trying to argue that I'm scum. He's given up. Vote him and end this game already.
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Post Post #1308 (ISO) » Fri Jun 30, 2017 11:57 am

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How am I just laying town??

I want to read the two I don't have confirmed so we can win. What the he'll is wrong with that??

That's really sly of you to try. I'm buay, but I will read you two and I will sort which of you is scum. At this point I can't see it being anyone but you, but I'm not going to vote before I do my research.
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Post Post #1309 (ISO) » Fri Jun 30, 2017 12:11 pm

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>_> Ari for god's sake please act like you've read the game.
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Post Post #1310 (ISO) » Fri Jun 30, 2017 12:14 pm

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Okay, what does it seem like I've missed Shadoweh?
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Post Post #1311 (ISO) » Fri Jun 30, 2017 12:19 pm

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The fact that Shadow and Almost are cleared. If you had actually been trying to solve this game, you should have realized by now that I am literally the only person you can even theoretically call scum.
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Post Post #1312 (ISO) » Fri Jun 30, 2017 4:09 pm

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I forgot about the block on A50 :facepalm:

You're absolutely right!

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Post Post #1313 (ISO) » Fri Jun 30, 2017 5:44 pm

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@Ari: Why did you target Leon on N4?

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Post Post #1314 (ISO) » Sat Jul 01, 2017 4:58 am

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In post 1313, Almost50 wrote:@Ari: Why did you target Leon on N4?
Because i knew Shadoweh was targeting you so I wouldn't be able to get a result there! I figured I'd either get innos on both, confirming you as scum for an auto win, or I'd get a nonparity result and we would auto win by lynching within them consecutively. The death screwed that plan up :(
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Post Post #1315 (ISO) » Sat Jul 01, 2017 7:11 am

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In post 1314, Aristophanes wrote:
In post 1313, Almost50 wrote:@Ari: Why did you target Leon on N4?
Because i knew Shadoweh was targeting you so I wouldn't be able to get a result there! I figured I'd either get innos on both, confirming you as scum for an auto win, or I'd get a nonparity result and we would auto win by lynching within them consecutively. The death screwed that plan up :(
And how did you know you wouldn't get a result on me when I'm jailed?

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Post Post #1316 (ISO) » Sat Jul 01, 2017 7:15 am

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In post 1315, Almost50 wrote:
In post 1314, Aristophanes wrote:
In post 1313, Almost50 wrote:@Ari: Why did you target Leon on N4?
Because i knew Shadoweh was targeting you so I wouldn't be able to get a result there! I figured I'd either get innos on both, confirming you as scum for an auto win, or I'd get a nonparity result and we would auto win by lynching within them consecutively. The death screwed that plan up :(
And how did you know you wouldn't get a result on me when I'm jailed?
Because that's how jailkeepers work?
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Post Post #1317 (ISO) » Sat Jul 01, 2017 7:27 am

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Nah. STANDARD JKs do NOT prevent action on their prisoner other than kills. An astute mod like yourself should know that.

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Post Post #1318 (ISO) » Sat Jul 01, 2017 7:32 am

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In post 1317, Almost50 wrote:Nah. STANDARD JKs do NOT prevent action on their prisoner other than kills. An astute mod like yourself should know that.
I honestly always forget that lol
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Post Post #1319 (ISO) » Sat Jul 01, 2017 7:39 am

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Here's where I stand:

I know my own alignment, and I was locked down when tonight's kills occurred, so I'm cleared.

You yourself have cleared Socrates by pairing him to a flipped Townie.

So, it's you or Shadoweh, but then Shadoweh did Jail me, so couldn't have killed Leon at the same time. It also would have been more logical if you had targeted her instead of Leon last night. That would've made more sense. But then you said she was conf!Town already, which only leaves YOU for the last scum.

Sorry, but you yourself are the one hanging yourself here!

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Post Post #1320 (ISO) » Sat Jul 01, 2017 8:31 am

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Soc's interactions with Vegito also don't look like scum talking to each other.
It just keeps pointing back to Ari and it's like so much evidence that I want to be paranoid of it, haha. But I think it's just clear-cut.
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Post Post #1321 (ISO) » Sat Jul 01, 2017 8:31 am

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My Soc pairing failed. I already said that!
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Post Post #1322 (ISO) » Sat Jul 01, 2017 8:34 am

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If ypu want to lynch me first thats fine. Shadoweh will have to UK him tn and you'll have to be ready to beat him and Jesus to a quickhammer tomorrow!
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Post Post #1323 (ISO) » Sat Jul 01, 2017 8:34 am

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UK = JK
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Post Post #1324 (ISO) » Sat Jul 01, 2017 9:51 am

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Honestly I was just waiting to see if Jesus was voting you so I could hammer. >.>

Are you really okay with the game coming down to who posts the fastest? You don't seem very invested. :p
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