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Post Post #425 (ISO) » Fri Jun 30, 2017 7:20 am

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I'm at work
I'm not doing much more than skimming the thread. Once I get home tonight I will be able to give more content worthy posts.

For now I'm going to look at SAIHAG first, I don't like the tone of the posts made by him/her.

Will also look at the rest.
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Post Post #426 (ISO) » Fri Jun 30, 2017 7:29 am

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what's not to like about my tone huh

is something wrong mr witcher
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Post Post #427 (ISO) » Fri Jun 30, 2017 7:59 am

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In post 426, stay away I have a gf wrote:what's not to like about my tone huh

is something wrong mr witcher

Maybe it's the knee jerk reactions like that?
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Post Post #428 (ISO) » Fri Jun 30, 2017 8:00 am

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like do you consider responding to your post a knee jerk reaction

cuz ima go get some coffee and process these last couple of pages
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Post Post #429 (ISO) » Fri Jun 30, 2017 8:06 am

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In post 428, stay away I have a gf wrote:like do you consider responding to your post a knee jerk reaction

cuz ima go get some coffee and process these last couple of pages

Go ahead and do that good sir, and if I was positive (by some cop's statement) that you were town, I'd offer you some of my coffee.
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Post Post #430 (ISO) » Fri Jun 30, 2017 8:15 am

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In post 398, Keyser Söze wrote:Please show me town-Klazam. You can't just drop that line while that slot is under pressure without explaining.
viewtopic.php?f=23&t=17144 - Nobody votes klazam bcs they think he's scum; he ends up eliminated. Was town.
viewtopic.php?f=53&t=16769&start=25 - Klazam hardclaims miller d1; gets lynched d2 after town lynch him for not being town-motivated. Was town.

two examples of town!klazam where he's lynched early on; town misread him &/or scum pushed on him

i see similarities from both games in the way that he acts in a semi-serious, slightly scummy manner that gets him prone to being lynched; not saying he's town but in combination with my gut, hes wavering somewhere above neutral and below lean town for now
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Post Post #431 (ISO) » Fri Jun 30, 2017 8:27 am

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That is a very interesting meta-defense.
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Post Post #432 (ISO) » Fri Jun 30, 2017 8:30 am

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In post 400, Keyser Söze wrote:Keychain has made one of the most (strangest?) votes of the game so far (and on paper his 3 posts haven't added much to forwarding the momentum or changing the direction of attention in the game). Would you put Keychain in the "undemanding and unchallenging wagon" bracket?
keychain had one of the most irksome entrances of evrybody in this game

like
In post 194, Keychain wrote:Also holy crap that's a lot of pages
just pings me as insincere but mybe im paranoid (probably paranoid)

and this is weird as well becauses i agree yes tacobutts continuously calling himself town amounts to me calling myself jesus but jokes aside

you literally commented on his playstyle agreeing that his shitposting wasn't AI, then asked a question asking whether or not this was how he usually played and then voted him which im assuming is based on his shitposts being weird

like ??? A -> contradict what you said in A = im going to vote you bcs even though your playstyle isn't AI it's weird so probably mafia?
In post 351, Keychain wrote:Sergtacos is probably right with his shitposting being NAI
But the way he keeps saying how town he is is weird. Is that usually part of how he does things?
VOTE: Sergtacos
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Post Post #433 (ISO) » Fri Jun 30, 2017 8:44 am

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In post 431, Keyser Söze wrote:That is a very interesting meta-defense.
As in convincing? cause i though it was pretty weak
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Post Post #434 (ISO) » Fri Jun 30, 2017 8:47 am

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In post 430, stay away I have a gf wrote:
In post 398, Keyser Söze wrote:Please show me town-Klazam. You can't just drop that line while that slot is under pressure without explaining.
viewtopic.php?f=23&t=17144 - Nobody votes klazam bcs they think he's scum; he ends up eliminated. Was town.
viewtopic.php?f=53&t=16769&start=25 - Klazam hardclaims miller d1; gets lynched d2 after town lynch him for not being town-motivated. Was town.

two examples of town!klazam where he's lynched early on; town misread him &/or scum pushed on him

i see similarities from both games in the way that he acts in a semi-serious, slightly scummy manner that gets him prone to being lynched; not saying he's town but in combination with my gut, hes wavering somewhere above neutral and below lean town for now
Holy hell that's forever ago lol. Forgot about these two.

I'm catching up now
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Post Post #435 (ISO) » Fri Jun 30, 2017 8:49 am

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In post 402, Sergtacos wrote:The game is early and you're already pissy about the wagon while your wagon only has 2 votes? Far from getting lynched dude. Secondly, i mean if your vote is RVS just say so. But so far you're too simple.
In post 403, Sergtacos wrote:When push comes to shove, you vote another person. and simply say "Mulch is right I think this deserves a vote right now."
forreals though im like pretty sure i explained earlier that i want to hear the ppl who haven't talked which means voting them until they start talking

also are you trying to get an emotion-driven paragraph from me

what push comes to shove? i explained clearly in my previous post why im not that vested in lynching klaz which is mainly a combination of my gut, doing a meta dive into some of his games and more interest in sorting other players into their respective categories

why are you trying to over-exaggerating my posts when im clearly trying to figure out whose town/scum here
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Post Post #436 (ISO) » Fri Jun 30, 2017 8:52 am

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over-exaggerate*

Klazam i want your reads asap
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Post Post #437 (ISO) » Fri Jun 30, 2017 8:52 am

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@Creature, or was it Creative...
If one player has a considerable knack for being miss-lynched on mafiascum for objectively scummy-behaviour you need to take that into account. It doesn't town-clear Klazam, but it unquestionably makes me want to re-evaluate my suspicions of the slot.

Plus, taking a step back, SAIHAG's strong meta-defense of Klazam should be taken into account for later too (association theory).
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Post Post #438 (ISO) » Fri Jun 30, 2017 8:54 am

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Fair point, wasn´t taking it that way.
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Post Post #439 (ISO) » Fri Jun 30, 2017 8:55 am

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In post 433, Creative wrote:As in convincing? cause i though it was pretty weak
im like 90% sure most meta defenses are weak bcs a player isn't the same every game; similarly meta isn't stagnant, it can be changed, can be faked, emulated etc.
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Post Post #440 (ISO) » Fri Jun 30, 2017 8:59 am

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In post 405, Maestro wrote:Keyser and GF - have you two played under any alt accounts on this site?
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Post Post #441 (ISO) » Fri Jun 30, 2017 9:06 am

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Keyser Soze: See previous M explanation, and in addition to that, i dont feel as though scum M would toss out the line i quoted like that. Still early on, things change after flips and such, blah blah, but for now im putting him in my town pool. I'd like to point out something though, the games stay away linked was from YEARS ago, and im pretty rusty, this is only my third game back from a pretty long hiatus.
In post 401, Sergtacos wrote:
In post 392, Klazam wrote:Talking back and forth. I'm seeing what you do, and I figure it'll be a good way to clear up things. Not now this, kinda busy
You didn't ask to do that last game, why this game different?
Honestly i'm not too sure why this game's different, but it just is.
In post 436, stay away I have a gf wrote:over-exaggerate*

Klazam i want your reads asap
aye. right now, i dont have much to go on, but ill share a few things that im seeing right now-
Right now- Mulch, Taco, M is my current town pool.
I was leaning scum on you, stay away, because of your earlier posts felt off to me, but feeling a bit better about you right now.

oh btw
UNVOTE:
honestly looking back, that was a dumb vote, creative isnt that scummy.

Mr Townbloc Fykus is blah to me, how come youre so eager to put yourself in a townbloc? on what basis should i be reading you as town?
VOTE: Fykus
In post 351, Keychain wrote:Sergtacos is probably right with his shitposting being NAI
But the way he keeps saying how town he is is weird. Is that usually part of how he does things?
VOTE: Sergtacos
This seems like a reasonable post to make, im not getting the keychain wagon.
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Post Post #442 (ISO) » Fri Jun 30, 2017 9:12 am

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I hate doing work on day 1, but I might have to because this game looks like a crapshoot lol
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Post Post #443 (ISO) » Fri Jun 30, 2017 9:16 am

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I had some time to look into ISO's of some people, so I will give my thoughts as to a couple of people. More later in the evening after work.

Sergetacos:


Shit posting aside, I can't come up with much of a scum tell with him.
Though I can't come up with a strong Town tell either.
He keeps saying he's town. But We all say we're town and some of us ARE lying.
Question is who.

Though it could have been a joke, I did not like the comment Serge made in #267 about hackning someone's account. Slightly scummy to me.

#270, asking Maestro to add Serge to his townbloc. Hmmm???


Seriously all I see is a bunch of Ass-Tacos!
Shit Tacos?

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Initial random vote on Mulckh then on Klazam
He tends to just post and not quote posts he responds to, making it harder to look into his ISO.
When asked by Keychain if he had any reason to vote Mulch and or Klazam, he responded "Yes" (#195) But never gave a reason.
Seems like he's taking issue with Serge in #204
Maybe Serge was waiting for a reaction from Klazam in #202? This could be the reason for Serge's unvote there.
#313 unvotes Klazam and votes Serge. Without any explanation.
#327 Creative points out that SAIHAG hasn't anything significant up until this point and SAIHAG's response is "Take a look in the mirror."
#341 He says he wants to listen to poeple who havent posted, and wants to hear their thoughts. No problem here.

What I do see as a red flag is this:
"also im fairly positive klaz is lynchbait and town at this point; like even if klaz wasn't town he's not the lynch for today."
Lynchbait aside, how could anyone know anyone else is town at this point? Then he say's if klaz isn't town, he shouldn't be lynched today.

Lets pick this statement apart for the sake of argument. If Klaz was not town (and I am not calling him scum at this point) then he for sure should be lynched ASAP. If there isn't a strong case against someone else, it would make sense to lynch someone who WAS NOT town.

#343 says Tchill might be town.
#347 The comment about Creative's possible attempt to stir some kind of aggressive emotion fueled paragraph from SAIHAG and then the comment that Creative needs to re-evailuate seems a bit sum siced to me, like trying to avoid being caught.
#348 Tchill:
"I think creatives statements are town motivated. He's getting himself some attention by trying to stir the pot and bring on conversation. I doubt scum would introduce themselves into the game the way he has."
^That reinforces what I just stated about SAIHAG's #347

#396. he gets a bit more heated here and starts swearing.
Is the pressure getting to him?


#426 and #428 responding to my point about not liking his tone in a similar manner.

SAIHAH is possibly scum.


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#196. Mentions sheeping the hitposters. Pretty much NAI
The early votes on Tchill and Klazam seem to be just an attempt to poke the players and gain some information, Not scum worthy I don't thnk.
She does make a good point in #295 about mulchs intention to shit post and how Serge fits into it.
#399 She mentions possible scum partners as SAIHAG and Klazam (in response to Creative in #345)
I agree with ths point as to SAIHAG, but as of yet I am unsure of Klazam (Haven;t gotten that far in ISO's)
#400 points a comment at me for really not doing anythig yet (Hey Im working on it see??)
Looking at the last few posts of her ISO, I get a town feel. I could be wrong but I'll go with it for now.

Key is likley possibly town.


My reads so far based on what i looked at in people's ISO's and reactions to other postings:

Scum:

SAIHAG


Neutral but leaning town:

Sergetacos


Town

Keyser Söze


The above could change but it's what I have for now.
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Post Post #444 (ISO) » Fri Jun 30, 2017 9:17 am

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One final question Klazam - how do you feel about SAIHAG meta-defending your slot by digging up your old town games?
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Post Post #445 (ISO) » Fri Jun 30, 2017 9:20 am

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ur a dum dum witcher
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Post Post #446 (ISO) » Fri Jun 30, 2017 9:21 am

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like are u a dum dum on purpose or actually dum dum
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Post Post #447 (ISO) » Fri Jun 30, 2017 9:24 am

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In post 445, stay away I have a gf wrote:ur a dum dum witcher
In post 446, stay away I have a gf wrote:like are u a dum dum on purpose or actually dum dum

VOTE: Sat Away I Have a Girlfriend

Town or not, you're digging yourself further in.
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Post Post #448 (ISO) » Fri Jun 30, 2017 9:24 am

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VOTE: Geralt of Rivia

That was dirty.
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Post Post #449 (ISO) » Fri Jun 30, 2017 9:28 am

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In post 442, Mulch wrote:I hate doing work on day 1, but I might have to because this game looks like a crapshoot lol
I so feel you dude.

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