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[stay away I have a gf]

"yes, my name is geralt and i have noticed many obvious scumtells from rick"

your reasoning and explanations are pretty dogshit when I think about it; they all center around either me not explaining something (which I could not give two shits about) or my lean town read on klazam (which has disintegrated into the ground after #470)

like if you want me to explain something then why don't you ask me instead of writing on your reads list "oh rick didn't explain this, conf!scum" or "he said klazam is town!!! how could he know klazam is town!!!!"

[stay away I have a gf]

going to take more trips to sarcasm land after I finish

[Klazam]

Jesus you don't react well to a push.

[stay away I have a gf]

like what's reacting well to a push

being an emotional player that starts bawling their eyes out & starts using ate

or a rigid player who doesn't give a shit and basically ignores ppl's arguments

or someone who tries to refute their argument but in the end it doesn't matter bcs the player whose pushing on them is biased?

like right now im pretty relaxed about the push on me; im just a really sarcastic, slightly arrogant player that likes being an arrogant, slightly sarcastic player

[stay away I have a gf]

like if you actually want to push my wagon maybe compile some reasons as to why im scum

instead of saying shitty statements like "you don't react well to a push"

[Klazam]

I'm second-guessing myself right now. I normally read this big of a overreaction as being scummy, but... Previous game had a guy who was defending, like a lot, every post he made on early d1, I was scum reading that, but I was wrong.

Need a second opinion from someone, should I be reading that reaction as town or scum, and why?

PEDIT: I'm expecting a reaction that seems more calm, refuting arugements. While here you seem excessive in your reaction, up to and including implying that I became scummy because I pointed out your blow up and voted you, that's a bit much don't have think.

Sure sarcasm I get but, well, sarcasm is a personal scumtell for me, have been ever since my first game on the site. Sarcasm is an excellent defense mechanism in where you deflect arugements made about you. Shouldn't be a real town reason to react like that. At best, you come off as a wiseass who obliquely attacks the people pushing you... Which is what is happening here.

Still second guessing myself though.

[Klazam]

*don't have think = dontcha think

[stay away I have a gf]

Need a second opinion from someone, should I be reading that reaction as town or scum, and why?

like im going to take a step out of my body and look at this logically

here you have a player who gets riled up after being pushed on

why is this person being riled up? probably because the person is town and when town get bw'ed they start to get annoyed
Is this scum getting riled up after being pushed on? why would scum overreact esp on d1 when it draws attention to them, gets them scumread & more likely to be lynched
Is this town getting annoyed after being pushed on? y e s l o l

[Geralt of Rivia]

Yeah SAIHAG...none of your rant is going to make me change my vote.

[stay away I have a gf]

Yeah SAIHAG...none of your rant is going to make me change my vote.

[stay away I have a gf]

Sergtacos: Probably town

DeasVail can you talk me through town!tacos

[Sergtacos]

I'm second-guessing myself right now. I normally read this big of a overreaction as being scummy, but... Previous game had a guy who was defending, like a lot, every post he made on early d1, I was scum reading that, but I was wrong.

Need a second opinion from someone, should I be reading that reaction as town or scum, and why?

PEDIT: I'm expecting a reaction that seems more calm, refuting arugements. While here you seem excessive in your reaction, up to and including implying that I became scummy because I pointed out your blow up and voted you, that's a bit much don't have think.

Sure sarcasm I get but, well, sarcasm is a personal scumtell for me, have been ever since my first game on the site. Sarcasm is an excellent defense mechanism in where you deflect arugements made about you. Shouldn't be a real town reason to react like that. At best, you come off as a wiseass who obliquely attacks the people pushing you... Which is what is happening here.

Still second guessing myself though.

This sounds towny af. putting klazam to null.

and @ Klazam, I'm thinking you could be right. so many people jumped on that wagon so quickly.

[Sergtacos]

UNVOTE:
I need to think.

[Creative]

Klazam

I believe most character traits are NAI, most of it is gonna manifest regardless of said person aligment, i would be more worried if you find inconsistent presentation or personality, actions that dont match words.

Although sarcasm is a theoretically ambiguous way of communicating, there are degrees and degrees of sarcasm.

SAIHAG way of replying is what i call sarcasm of extremes, there isnt really any ambiguity on what he says because you can clearly understand his viewpoint even when he says the exact opposite or gives ludicrous analogies.

With that i conclude that i see his actions so far to be matching his own persona and therefore dont really see it as scummy

[Creative]

Also, this whole push escalated to a degree that is no longer useful.

It seems clear that Gerald is either a inflexible player or got himself into inflexible position, supposing he is town. He got personally offended and therefore is mostly unable to distance himself from his emotional read on SAIHAG.
Furthermore, SAIHAG whole personality will not leave room for actions aimed at de-escalating the situation, i havent seen any change of inputs from both sides and at this point this whole beef will achieve nothing productive.

[Tchill13]

My stance on SAIHGF changed a little with his rant. I don't see it as absolute town but it doesn't come off as scummy to me. He's a scum lean for now but I don't think there's enough evidence to justify a lynch there.

UNVOTE:

I'd rather get more reads on players this early on in the day phase.

[Tchill13]

Keyser soze is klazam your main scum read right now? I read your iso and that's where your vote is and you seem to keep pushing them. I also noticed geralt had that slot listed null. I'm null on klazam at the moment as well.

[Geralt of Rivia]

@Creative, yeah I did get offended.

But SAIHAG's carrying on doesn't offer any room to change things either. It doesn't matter what anyone says in regards to SA8HAG, if something about him is pointed out, it gets an insultive response. I don't think it's me personally
I think SAIHAG would have done that to anyone that directs anything negative at him.

I feel like I'm going to get an automatic "FU" response from SAIHAG regardless of what I say. So my vote stays there.

That said, what sort of change in input are you suggesting?

[Tchill13]

Geralt is there any other players from your null list you'd rather sort at the moment? I agree with creative this is a case on SAIHGF you should probably step away from and come back to consideration later. For now we can sort other slots.

[Tchill13]

There's nobody worth sorting from your null list except klazam and Sergtacos. The rest hardly have any posts. Those 2 slots are pretty confusing to me. They're hard to read.

[Geralt of Rivia]

Mulch and fykus. Since those two are towards the bottom of my reads list and closer to scum sided. Not saying the are but I want to hear more from them.

Pedit: or Serge and klazam as suggested, since I couldn't get a read on them.

[Mulch]

Day 1's are so useless but time to do stuf -_-

[Tchill13]

I've made a semi serious case on mulch so far then went away from it. Pressuring mulch is either going to cause a lot of back lash or it may get him to contribute on day 1. I'm assuming it'll be the back lash though but I don't mind. The scummy vibes I get from mulch I've already stated. Seems to me he could plan to muck up the thread with Sergtacos in later day phases and he stated he wouldn't stand for votes on his slot. This early buddying mulch has done with Sergtacos could be so mulch has a reason to defend Sergtacos and as I said carry him through day phases to muck up the thread and help mulch himself get to the end.

[Tchill13]

Lol mulch's name is mentioned once and he immediately pops up.

[Geralt of Rivia]

VOTE: Geralt of Rivia

That was dirty.

VOTE: Geralt of Rivia

That was dirty.

Explain.

First. I'm not taking shit this game from anyone for bullshit reasons to scumread me, just warning you now.

VOTE: Geralt of Rivia

That was dirty.

Or are you his scum partner coming to his defense?

First. I'm not taking shit this game from anyone for bullshit reasons to scumread me, just warning you now.

@mulch - was that a mistake?

I only ask because my vote on SAIHAG triggered a response from you. I wasn't scum reading you at that point and had not posted regarding you.

Im confused by that reaction.