Real Folk Blues Rematch [GAME OVER]

[Gorkington]

random you should claim pls and Ty.
cerb results please.

[DrCirno]

WOAH WHEME FLIPPED MILLER
WHAT A SURPRISE I TOTALLY DID NOT EXPECT THAT

[DrCirno]

VOTE: PV5

[Gorkington]

i wouldnt have been mad if you shot elsewhere tbh.

[Cerberus v666]

I dunno, y would math push this had to be wrong? On the other hand, can we have targets?

We're VT or Goon. We have taken no actions, and we've had zero targets. Was that necessary, or were you talking to someone else?

-Narna

I lie detected this, it came back as true. I also confirmed that the existence of that question in the post wouldn't have any effect on my result.

Davesaz, what did you do last night?

Vaxkiller: Action claim please.

pedit: yeah, I should have popped in before the thread locked to say that if aristo flipped scum, shoot smith 100%. Sorry. I had expressed that thought process before, but hadn't been thinking about it once things moved over to aristo(and tbh, I didn't have a lot of faith that Aristo would flip scum, simply because there was basically no reason to think of him at all, so I put it at 50/50 at best).

[Cerberus v666]

Also...JJ and Whemestar had IDENTICAL role pm's. I'm a bit surprised Whemestar never stepped in once JJ's flip was revealed to clarify that his was exactly the same, since that was something we had been talking about a bunch, and it was part of the reasoning smith was using.

Anyways.

VOTE: Smith

[DrCirno]

Guys
We are lynching PV5 first
Thank you

[Cerberus v666]

Naw, you can shoot him. I automatically place less weight on pushes made by vigs, because you can just go ahead and handle it yourself.

[DrCirno]

Do you want 2 anti-town kills tonight?
Because I certainly don't

[Titus]

Baaaaaahhhh! Good tricks can only last so long. Gooo town!

[Scott and Ramona]

Math in shambles.

- Scott

[Gorkington]

why is smith scum with ari?

[Cerberus v666]

Oh, and yeah, two shot kills. So 7 red scum at least, confirmed singleball+SK.

So, if PV!SK was able to shoot last night, I don't see why he wouldn't have done so, to weaken the theory you're throwing about regarding him. Maybe he chose not to shoot simply to make me doubt it because he could have shot?

pedit: @Gork: Because he defended the fuck out of Ari for not doing shit while shitting all over Wheme for doing nothing, when objectively speaking, Wheme's ISO had about 100000x more content than Ari's.

[DrCirno]

I personally think smith is just misguided town

[Cerberus v666]

@Shiro: How did Titus know that you were all town? Her role PM doesn't say that you're all town, just that if they're x y z she recruits them. It also doesn't specify the information she stated about it not working if they were fake claims they had.

@mod: Can you answer the questions I posed to Shiro? Would Titus' role have worked on a scum slot with the fake claim of one of those flavors? Was she informed of their alignment when she recruited them?

~It would only work on a player with the flavor described in that role pm. As in they would have to have one of those characters as their actual role.

[DrCirno]

So, if PV!SK was able to shoot last night, I don't see why he wouldn't have done so, to weaken the theory you're throwing about regarding him. Maybe he chose not to shoot simply to make me doubt it because he could have shot?

Because if he didnt commute tonight he would have to risk being shot by me

[DrCirno]

Well by tonight I mean last night

[Ginngie]

cerb ya got it mixed man, it's that:

PV can commute on even nights
kill on odd nights

Night 5 we had 3 kills
Night 6 we had 2 kills

that's cuz PV commuted

VOTE: PV5

[Ginngie]

@Shiro: How did Titus know that you were all town? Her role PM doesn't say that you're all town, just that if they're x y z she recruits them. It also doesn't specify the information she stated about it not working if they were fake claims they had.

@mod: Can you answer the questions I posed to Shiro? Would Titus' role have worked on a scum slot with the fake claim of one of those flavors? Was she informed of their alignment when she recruited them?

Well... it did say masonizer and that's now confirmed

[DrCirno]

Nah I'm 89% sure that he can kill all nights
It's just that he can commute during even nights and commuting when he can is the best way to survive.

[Ginngie]

meh, regardless, needs to die

[Cerberus v666]

So, if PV!SK was able to shoot last night, I don't see why he wouldn't have done so, to weaken the theory you're throwing about regarding him. Maybe he chose not to shoot simply to make me doubt it because he could have shot?

Because if he didnt commute tonight he would have to risk being shot by me

He's not that dumb. There was no chance you were going to shoot him last night, not when you had all these people clamoring for miller removal.

pedit: I don't have anything mixed Ginngie. A SK who can only kill half the time is weak as fuck. If it's COMPULSIVE that he kills on certain nights, rather than having the OPTION of commuting instead of killing on other nights, than the role is weaker than I'm willing to accept in a game this size, with a town vig, and a killproof member of the scum team, plus the other protections we have(doc/bodyguard/rolestopper), PLUS the scum team had a nonconsecutive roleblocker...which makes it possible for them to PERFECTLY shut down all his kills if they wanted to.

This means the only universe where Cirno's theory makes sense to me is if he could have chosen to kill ast night, but instead chose to commute, knowing that doing so would STRENGTHEN the case Cirno has made against him.

[DrCirno]

I mean it's just not me man
He claimed town even night commuter.
The role he claimed has zero reason to not commute when he can.
If he is caught by something that he didnt commute, then well

[DrCirno]

Anyway if you REALLY want smith dead that much, then I'll shoot him.

[Cerberus v666]

I mean it's just not me man
He claimed town even night commuter.
The role he claimed has zero reason to not commute when he can.
If he is caught by something that he didnt commute, then well

Sure, but like..why would people waste actions on someone who has publicly claimed they'll be commuting? It's a bigger risk to strengthen a case on you.

We're in kinda a shitty spot right now, actually. We have two conftowns(Shiro/Gork), two probnot groupscum(Drixx and myself), a probtowndoc(dave), a 50/50 sk/vig(DrCirno), a probtown busdriver(Vaxkiller).


That leaves the list below for our pool of possible groupscum.

mhsmith0 -VT claim
Insomniacs - VT/goon claim, confirmed by lie detection
Vedith
Master Vampire
PeregrineV - Even night commuter
Randomidget
Ginngie
Scott and Ramona

Am I missing any of those claims? Or any results we have on those slots?