1258 - My main issue with you saying I'm transparent and townish is that I feel you're placating me while still trying to leave an out to push me. I never said you were "suddenly" pushing me. I just don't think that anything you said about NC is particularly strong and mostly consists of stuff that
could
potentially have scum motivation but also make sense for a town-NC to do. It doesn't make any sense that you'd weigh that as heavily as you would my actual townplay and be "undecided." I'm not saying you shouldn't take NC's play into consideration. It's that the kind of arguments you used against NC could apply to pretty much anyone else.
1259 - I found your confrontational tone out-of-place from the rest of your posting. Scum often don't mind being overly aggressive with each other because they know that it's all fabricated and they don't have to go out of their way to be cordial to each other.
1261 - My guess is that in
79, you noticed that there was early pressure on your partner and decided that you needed to take a stance there. You took the safe stance - taking a stand against Drixx so that you don't either defend him or ignore him when he's under pressure, both of which could look bad if he flips. Later, when the pressure falls off, Drixx goes on the backburner for you and you instead start tunneling Dunker for "misrepping Drixx." If Drixx was a suspect for you, it seems odd that the person you tunneled all day long was someone who had attacked Drixx.
1263 - I'm not sure what you're asking for here but "being a Drixx partner" is not the primary basis for my scumread on you. It mostly came from how you set up your reads on me and esires like this: "BV-town but NC fits as Drixx partners. esires-scum independently but doesn't fit as a Drixx partner." It doesn't feel like a natural thought process. I don't think I've ever seen town having a thought process like that. It feels catchy, a bit too-tidy, and constructed to appeal to the lowest common denominator. I don't think there's anything that rules you out as a Drixx partner though and from my perspective, knowing that Drixx was bussed for sure, yours fit in pretty well.
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1265- Will answer these outside the spoiler since that's pretty important for everyone to know.
1267 - You are nitpicking the definition. You didn't explicitly say you thought Drixx was pro-town but Dunker attacked him and you pushed Dunker and with Drixx's flip, it looks suspicious. It actually looks even more suspicious that you didn't call Drixx town because a townie that thought Dunker was scum so strongly would probably be thinking that Drixx is town for the way Dunker pushed on him. But I think you were scum that knew Drixx was scum and didn't want to defend him blatantly.
1269 - I didn't think you were incapable of it, just that I didn't expect you to tunnel as scum. My scumread on you developed later and is based on much stronger reasoning so I'm putting more weight into that.
You're obviously making it look like you're trying to sort the game. That's either town genuinely sorting the game or scum faking gamesolving. I think it's the latter because I don't think the conclusions you drew about me and esires make any sense - specifically the part I mentioned above. It reads like scum who want two equally "strong" arguments to waffle over so that when one of us flips town, you can say that your argument for the other is the one that's right. HS is not doing this. HS is not trying to pretend to solve the game with bullshit arguments. HS is not trying to hide the fact that he has no interest in figuring out which of us is scum. HS's interactions with Drixx are extremely genuine and that makes him town. I'll go over these in my next post. You don't have the same interactions with Drixx so you don't get a pass.
I'm not attacking you for trying to solve the game. I'm attacking you because of your bullshit posturing. HS is not doing this.
By messy or chaotic, I mean probably like how my thought process evolved this game. I started out by suspecting you but thinking Drixx was town if you were scum. Then I read the game and thought Paul was scum. Then I finished reading and thought it was esires. Then I thought it was you. Your thought processes read fake to me because right from when you started to "gamesolve," you only had two options: me and esires. The lynches you need to win. You townread Paul for reasoning that's not bad but you're way more confident in it than you should be. For instance, why wouldn't Drixx say "Paul gets it" to a partner to throw us off? You said yourself that there was nothing for Paul to "get." So, what was he actually doing buddying a town-Paul based on non-existent things? You're also a bit too sure on HS for reasons that I don't entirely follow.
1115 is not a strong reason to read him as town. Your play is pretty much "pocket Paul and HS, push me and esires." Your "gamesolving" feels more like you already started out with an agenda and decided what reads you needed to have and how you'd need to approach them.
Your reasons for pushing esires that I didn't like: he didn't vote me to L-1 so he's scum that's not backing up his suspicion of me. That he's scum for "sheeping HS" who he's been scumreading. That he's scum for not re-evaluating his read on me (this is something you parroted from me).
