OPEN 687: JUNGLE OLIGARCHY (GAME OVER)

[CommKnight]

Well I can safely say I'm not mafia. So that doesn't bode well for lynching Vedith as he might be. I just know he sure as fuck ain't town.

[RadiantCowbells]

Like you seem to believe that Kmd might be mafia but I don't think that's at all likely.

1) He was one of the heavily townread people several times when he was put on the kill list.
2) He doesn't really make sense associative wise with Dunnstral.
3) Something in the way he said that he was clearly not mafia but we could think he was werewolf felt legit, that he's town or wolf.

I don't think that Kmd's town and that makes him the safest pick for werewolf today in my eyes.

I totally agree: Vedith is never town here. But he's my strongest pick for mafia at the moment.

[CommKnight]

Hmmm, perhaps. Hopefully the actual mafia player speaks up and saves us all the trouble of worrying about mislynching mafia today. I mean it'd be in their best interest because then we'd have to lynch BOTH werewolves before even attempting to kill them. which means werewolves also can't kill him without lowering the pool down to just town vs wolves which would most certainly be a wolf loss.

[RadiantCowbells]

Alright here's what we're going to do.

Vedith

If you haven't hardclaimed mafia in the next 24 hours I am lynching you.

[CommKnight]

Alright here's what we're going to do.

Vedith

If you haven't hardclaimed mafia in the next 24 hours I am lynching you.

This I can get behind. Add my threat of lynching you to it. Which means if 2 others agree, you're fucked without a hard-claim Vedith.

[Vedith]

VOTE: RC

We stick to the plan. RC is WW and lynching town today wins it for them.
You need to understand Comm, you not voting RC here means that RC/kmd win 100%.

RC, if you're magically Mafia you need to say now or WW wins.

Currently 3 v 1 v 2
Lynch on town
2 v 1 v 2
WW kill anyone and win

Lynch on Mafia
2 v 3
Kill on anyone and WW win

Lynch WW
1 v 3 v 1
WW kills town
1 v 2 v 1

WW/Mafia is then king maker.
So this is best for all parties and particularly best for town.

[Vedith]

I totally agree: Vedith is never town here. But he's my strongest pick for mafia at the moment.

Vedith

RC claimed WW with this.

[RadiantCowbells]

Okay, that's not mafia reaction.

VOTE: Vedith

[Realeo]

I don't think mafia!Fitz makes senses. I remembered townreading Gamma and upon re-reading Fitz kinda reinforced it.

[RadiantCowbells]

Well if Vedith is mafia then we can't lynch werewolves today without his vote and since he's voting defensively rather than trying to lynch werewolf we have to assume he's werewolf.

[RadiantCowbells]

I strongly disagree, however, with your assertion that Fitz doesn't make sense as mafia.

[Vedith]

As I said RC, if you're not magically WW convince me who is.
All u see is you think I'm Mafia so voted me.

[Realeo]

Am I the only one with past game experiences playing with Vedith?

[Realeo]

I strongly disagree, however, with your assertion that Fitz doesn't make sense as mafia.

Do you actually read the whole game when you replaced?

[Vedith]

Everyone alive has played with me.
Kmd the least.

[RadiantCowbells]

No shit I read the whole game when I replaced?

[Realeo]

No shit I read the whole game when I replaced?

Is that a yes or a no.

[RadiantCowbells]

I disagree with your assertion that Dunn's push on Fitz excludes the possibility of him being mafia. I know for a fact Dunn hard buses and as mafia in this setup it's probably a strong play to bus exactly 1 of your teammates.

You lynched Dunnstral and he flipped mafia and not werewolf. don't blame me for your crap.

that's a yes.

[RadiantCowbells]

You've defended Vedith for 3 consecutive day phases and never given a reason. I don't think you're scum but at the same time I understand why Comm thinks you are.

Stop defending Vedith and force him to claim.

[Realeo]

I did. I explained to you that if Vedith is scum, then why he accuses me AtE but no scumread me for it?

[Realeo]

There is also Firescreamer who decided to push Dave--which if you reread the whole game in full, you would notice that it bothered me--but suddenly decided to stop scumreading Dave seems natural.

[RadiantCowbells]

Realeo your reads are terrible. I'm through with you: you can follow me or you can lose.

[Realeo]

Let me put this, I genuinely townread Vedith (and his replacements) and I until now still do townread him.

However, I'm confident that Vedith is not mafia. I have explained why Vedith is not in the same faction with Dunnstral in the past.

Pedit:

Realeo your reads are terrible. I'm through with you: you can follow me or you can lose.

Then speak. Your entire case of why Vedith is scum is "He's just obvious scum like Hawk in my game" which is as unhelpful as "My town is self-evident."

I'm all ears.

[RadiantCowbells]

Like I can't fucking wait to see what dead thread has to say about you fucking me over for the last 3 day phases.

No fuck you if you're town I don't care what you have to say.

[Realeo]

Then you deserve to lose.