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MathBlade He/HimTechnical SupportHe/Him
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I don't want Snarky either. :/ Like wtf people?
I don't understand the Aronis argument and if it was so damning wouldn't more people be on it? Like assuming Aronis is a mason then he could have guessed it as I found <redacted>? I really don't like an Aronis lynch and I don't like Snarky as I townread his predecessor.
Are those really the choices?ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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snarky is a pl at bestIn post 2201, Creature wrote:Why not Snarky?
he's just inactive
there's no value in that lynch"Everythingwe call real is made up of things that cannot be regarded as real.
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Beats the risky Aronis lynch.In post 2202, QuantumRadius wrote:
snarky is a pl at bestIn post 2201, Creature wrote:Why not Snarky?
he's just inactive
there's no value in that lynchConfused lookShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
You're letting Titus win the game by herself.Good luck now I guess.You have no chance to win.~Tywin
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Titus...There is something I gotta go and I would really love your reads please.In post 2203, Titus wrote:
Beats the risky Aronis lynch.In post 2202, QuantumRadius wrote:
snarky is a pl at bestIn post 2201, Creature wrote:Why not Snarky?
he's just inactive
there's no value in that lynchConfused look
And blah...
VOTE: Snarky
Better than Aronis *sigh*ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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Do*In post 2205, MathBlade wrote:
Titus...There is something I gotta go and I would really love your reads please.In post 2203, Titus wrote:
Beats the risky Aronis lynch.In post 2202, QuantumRadius wrote:
snarky is a pl at bestIn post 2201, Creature wrote:Why not Snarky?
he's just inactive
there's no value in that lynchConfused look
And blah...
VOTE: Snarky
Better than Aronis *sigh*ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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QuantumRadius Goon
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..At this point people are lurk sacs...I think Snarky is the only Anti Aronis lynch.ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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Alternatively, it's absolutely useless to ever post there, rather than here. It just creates an unnecessary filter through which fewer players have a chance to interpret the intentions and actions of the rest of the players. Like, we've literally already seen its downfall throughout the course of this game and its Day 1.In post 2192, MathBlade wrote:
FoS on whoever said that in the dark pool. The light and dark PTs are tools that can be used to extract thoughts and put the squeeze on scum. Letting them sit idle like light is too is HORRIBLE!!!! Like forcing scum to post more explain reads that is a neighborhood's main function. Wtf?In post 2184, Frosted Kelvin Bran wrote:
Nothing is really going on in the Dark PT. I think the general consensus is that these PTs are too big and can change too frequently to be of any use. At the very least, a couple people said that and nobody really contradicted it.In post 2182, EddieFenix wrote:Thank you for squaring that away, Mastina. Much appreciated.
So now that we have that all squared away, Aronis and Rauth, has there been ANYTHING in (I'm assuming that you have one with this question) your neighborhood? What's going on in the dark PT? Kelvin, does anyone else in the hydra have thoughts on things? Ginngie, what makes me null to you? Besides not being able to read me lol.
As for the rest of the hydra, they aren't present at all right now. I haven't really even heard from them recently. I imagine we'll hear from them more once Day 2 rolls around, but for now it's probably best to assume you'll only be hearing from me for a while.
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We can't even use it to share privileged information or safely discuss any strategy, because it's such a big player list that scum is pretty much guaranteed to be in both PTs. And due to the switching mechanic, we can't even properly handle information leaks.
In short, it provides no discernable advantage to the taken when compared to just posting here. And I'm pretty sure I was the first one to bring it up, so FoS me all you want. But if you can't even see the why my argument might have merit, even if you don't agree with it, then you're the suspicious one.
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I don't see the merit of a bad argument.
A neighborhood CAN be used for the things you mentioned but that isn't its exclusive purpose.
Take the game I was SK with you in. Priscilla used that to pressure me more so than she ever did in thread. Literally no break for scum. The consistency requirement is much more potent than any PR and anyone trying to not post there is trying to dodge that. Take Shadowrun. I literally had to post 23 hours straight to keep up my persona with the adventures. Ever since that game I fucking hate hoods as either alignment. It makes me feel like there is no true "night" for scum only random kills that happen during a constantly moving game. That "night" helps me reset my reads if needed and gives me a chance to breathe and people to have lives.
So as Town or scum a no night hood is exhausting if used correctly.ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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Why not? He hasn't explained how he has knowledge that only scum could have.In post 2197, Titus wrote:I don't want Aronis.
I agree that it was almost too stupid to be scum, but how could it possibly be town???? No one can explain how he has this knowledge that he shouldn't have.QuantumRadius wrote:i'm not exactly sure what to do
aronis did a stupid but it was almost too stupid to be scum, especially because maf has daychat
and I can't get Titus today, no wagon support
aaaaagh
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there are no neutralsIn post 2211, texcat wrote:
Why not? He hasn't explained how he has knowledge that only scum could have.In post 2197, Titus wrote:I don't want Aronis.
I agree that it was almost too stupid to be scum, but how could it possibly be town???? No one can explain how he has this knowledge that he shouldn't have.QuantumRadius wrote:i'm not exactly sure what to do
aronis did a stupid but it was almost too stupid to be scum, especially because maf has daychat
and I can't get Titus today, no wagon support
aaaaagh
UNVOTE: aronis
not scum = town
aronis can you explain your derpclaim
how tf did that work
VOTE: ginngie
cfd it to freelo
it's the best I can see happening for today"Everythingwe call real is made up of things that cannot be regarded as real.
Ifquantummechanics hasn't profoundlyshockedyou, you haven't understood it yet."
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if they know they are masonIn post 2213, Vedith wrote:-Aronis knows role and knows they are linked with Rauth
-Rauth doesn't know anything
-Lets not lynch Aronis
10/10 town.
Fucking idiots.
and mason can't be scum
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Ifquantummechanics hasn't profoundlyshockedyou, you haven't understood it yet."
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Because Aronis isn't a mason and just tried to fake town slip. They are going to be something else.
Explain how if they are both masons, and both town, how 1 has the information and the other doesn't?I claim scum \o/-
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that's what I'm asking them
it doesn't make sense for them to know that, but scum masons make no sense either, and how would he know rauth's alignment in order to fake townslip"Everythingwe call real is made up of things that cannot be regarded as real.
Ifquantummechanics hasn't profoundlyshockedyou, you haven't understood it yet."
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It's not a bad argument and you haven't actually expressed why it doesn't have any merit. In fact, you even confirmed that they can be used in the way I described.In post 2210, MathBlade wrote:I don't see the merit of a bad argument.
A neighborhood CAN be used for the things you mentioned but that isn't its exclusive purpose.
Take the game I was SK with you in. Priscilla used that to pressure me more so than she ever did in thread. Literally no break for scum. The consistency requirement is much more potent than any PR and anyone trying to not post there is trying to dodge that. Take Shadowrun. I literally had to post 23 hours straight to keep up my persona with the adventures. Ever since that game I fucking hate hoods as either alignment. It makes me feel like there is no true "night" for scum only random kills that happen during a constantly moving game. That "night" helps me reset my reads if needed and gives me a chance to breathe and people to have lives.
So as Town or scum a no night hood is exhausting if used correctly.
Divergent's hood (and most hoods) aren't really relevant in this scenario. They are fixed and much smaller, meaning it can be much easier to deal with information leaks and discover the leaker. The fact that regular neighborhoods are fixed also means you have the potential to work up to some level of trust with the other players. Not so in a game where literally half the players are in the hood and there is no telling when anyone will leave and who will take their place.
And there's no constant requirement, other than the ones you place on yourself. You're a human being with a life outside of MafiaScum (presumably), so it's not unreasonable for you to take a break at literally any time. Nobody is forcing you to post 24 hours a day and if anybody tries to lynch someone because they aren't, that person is probably an idiot.
There's an argument to be had for these neighborhoods being useful when it's not the Day phase, but it is ow, so it's useless. And even then, there's an argument that that can be detrimental to town too. It gives scum a chance to read what the town's thoughts are during Night and adjust accordingly. It's not like it gives much chance for town to coordinate for the next Day either. So, again, what is the actual point?
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SnarkySnowman Mafia Scum
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mmmmm lunchIn post 2221, SnarkySnowman wrote:Finishing up reading through this cesspool of nonsense. Don't lunch me. There are like 5 better lynches. Let me claim and get reads out before lynch at least.
why didn't you claim in this post"Everythingwe call real is made up of things that cannot be regarded as real.
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Don't claim.In post 2221, SnarkySnowman wrote:Finishing up reading through this cesspool of nonsense. Don't lunch me. There are like 5 better lynches. Let me claim and get reads out before lynch at least.
Your wagon is absolute shite.
Vote Aronis.I claim scum \o/-
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This is the only explanation that I can see. I don't understand why everyone is not voting for Aronis.In post 2217, Vedith wrote:Because he's Mafia and it says who he is linked with.
He probably assumed that Rauth knew he was linked too but not what power, so he claimed mason as a fake slip to tomorrow go, "Oh I assumed it was this".
It's simple logic.
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