Open 691: Jungle Republic (ENDGAME)

[MathBlade]

So it's Bins NTRP and MMM sweet.

If MMM was Town no way he puts me at L-1 when I could insta hammer if I was scum with him. Since MMM didn't think about that MMM is scum.

I just got home and will read the rest tomorrow morning/afternoon as it is 12:30 here.

So Bins or MMM and then we figure out the others later.

[Wisdom]

sure

[Bins]

wow lol

[Wisdom]

lets lynch bins, ty

[NotTheRealPaul]

Math explain scum!bins or scum!mmm to me rn im sold

I think im only down to lynch dunkers atm but im ready to be persuaded to the others

[NotTheRealPaul]

Bins what exactly have I done to give u town vibes?

Bins

[Vedith]

NTRP, Vedith & Dunker should all agree on one wagon on the three. Here's your chance to show your true colours.

Don't try to scare me into voting with you. Won't work.

VOTE: Bins

[Tails]

MMM wants Math..

Actually, MMM doesn't. Look back at the vote again. That move was after being asked, and I don't get MMM wanting that wagon at all. He's just going with the flow.

Note: Wisdom had suspected both NTRP & Vedith, so if they should be joining a wagon that us NOT on their buddy. If they lynch Scum then they're likely Town. Yes?

I think this is why we keep butting heads. You have a very theoretical mechanical view of the game that's never worked in practice. Ever. I don't think I've ever seen scum be so precise in their voting patterns.

[Wisdom]

amen

You cant play mafia with sheer logic

[Tails]

Bin's reads seem a little too convenient. And I'm not sure if they entirely match his stances.

Dunker's #840 is the first post that doesn't follow the idk or lost persona he's displayed so far. I'm wondering what happened to go from potential lolhammer to seriously wanting to lynch Math. It feels desperate. Something in the status quo has changed, and I don't think it's the votes spreading out.

[Tails]

MMM's Math vote progression:

oh god you guys are using player meta now

Opposed to wagon.

eh guess I wouldn't strongly oppose a Math wagon but I also wanna hear what they have to say

Starts to become a bit more wishy-washy and leaves a door open to jump onto the wagon. Fencesits like crazy though, and there's a bit of hesitance. MMM comes off as feeling like he's in a precarious position here.

Hmmm ok sure
VOTE: Math
L-1 if I didn't miscount

Almost gives a case relying on what looks like contradictions. MMM immediately jumps ship. Note that it has nothing to do with MMM's stance on Math, but rather Almost's. MMM is following the momentum onto Math while hiding behind Almost's reasoning.

I'm going to take another look at the wagon. MMM's reaction makes me think there's at least one more scum there. Which makes sense given the speed in which it built.

[Tails]

Only other potential scum I see on the wagon is Bins. I've been struggling with reading him, because I'm not sure whether he's just annoying or whether there are actual issues with his play. And I really don't want to scumread him based on playstyle.

MMM is my strongest scumread. Other scum is in {Paul, Vedith}. Dunker's #840 is the only thing that really gives me pause. Otherwise, he just reads like new town.

[Wisdom]

mmm/bins/dunker

[MMM]

MMM's Math vote progression:

oh god you guys are using player meta now

Opposed to wagon.

Wrong. I'm opposed to using player meta.

eh guess I wouldn't strongly oppose a Math wagon but I also wanna hear what they have to say

Starts to become a bit more wishy-washy and leaves a door open to jump onto the wagon. Fencesits like crazy though, and there's a bit of hesitance. MMM comes off as feeling like he's in a precarious position here.

I didn't point out for nothing on d2 that Math was a null read for me.

Hmmm ok sure
VOTE: Math
L-1 if I didn't miscount

Almost gives a case relying on what looks like contradictions. MMM immediately jumps ship. Note that it has nothing to do with MMM's stance on Math, but rather Almost's. MMM is following the momentum onto Math while hiding behind Almost's reasoning.

Because I can't sheep a wagon I have my own case on?
Sheep =/= Scum

[Dunkerdoodles]

mmm/bins/dunker

i think we are all town

paul/math/someone is the scumteam i propose. still good with paul or math lynch.

[Tails]

MMM's Math vote progression:

oh god you guys are using player meta now

Opposed to wagon.

Wrong. I'm opposed to using player meta.

You were showing opposition prior to this post. I just used this as a baseline to show how quickly your stance changed.

eh guess I wouldn't strongly oppose a Math wagon but I also wanna hear what they have to say

Starts to become a bit more wishy-washy and leaves a door open to jump onto the wagon. Fencesits like crazy though, and there's a bit of hesitance. MMM comes off as feeling like he's in a precarious position here.

I didn't point out for nothing on d2 that Math was a null read for me.

That does not change the fencesitty nature of the post or that you positioned yourself to be ready to leap on Math if you need to.

Hmmm ok sure
VOTE: Math
L-1 if I didn't miscount

Almost gives a case relying on what looks like contradictions. MMM immediately jumps ship. Note that it has nothing to do with MMM's stance on Math, but rather Almost's. MMM is following the momentum onto Math while hiding behind Almost's reasoning.

Because I can't sheep a wagon I have my own case on?
Sheep =/= Scum

It's not that you sheeped the wagon. It's how you did so.

[Wisdom]

dunker's behavior is definitely not newbtown now - his aim is to try and stop the movements he doesnt want to happen; theres no "i dunno whats happening here" vibe like at first.

[NotTheRealPaul]

i still want dunkers lynched but I'll comprimise and vote bins

pedit: he is ignoring everything addressed to him essentially. He is trying to strongarm a lynch on two players who were once scumread and are now townread/null. Either he has too muxh confidence in his ability/weight or this is some desperation shit.

[Bins]

Bin's reads seem a little too convenient. And I'm not sure if they entirely match his stances.

Er, convenient how? I'm basically saying Wisdom is on the completely wrong track.


And honestly Dunkers recent posts look SUPER town. so like wtf

Also still and Chick. Also annoying? what?

VOTE: Vedith

[Bins]

@NTRP - your reaction to your wagon seemed town to me and the first posts I read when I entered the game were yours and those also seemed town to me

don't question my townread on you I don't like when people throw that q out

[Bins]

Also still and Chick.

*also still a chick

idk how autocorrect did that

[Bins]

i think we are all town

This isn't a scumpost just btw

[Wisdom]

And honestly Dunkers recent posts look SUPER town

lolno

[Dunkerdoodles]

i still want dunkers lynched but I'll comprimise and vote bins

pedit: he is ignoring everything addressed to him essentially. He is trying to strongarm a lynch on two players who were once scumread and are now townread/null. Either he has too muxh confidence in his ability/weight or this is some desperation shit.

or maybe you are scum and i'm right.

[Wisdom]

i think we are all town

This isn't a scumpost just btw

itt bins trying to cover her buddy's slips