Mini Normal 1917: :X Mafia (Game over!)

[Cheetory6]

If there's a mod that's going to be weird shit into a normal game, it's implosion.
IE: I would not be shocked at all if Vedith or Hiraki are scum and are claiming their actual roles here.

[NotTheRealPaul]

If there's a mod that's going to be weird shit into a normal game, it's implosion.
IE: I would not be shocked at all if Vedith or Hiraki are scum and are claiming their actual roles here.

Wouldnt be the worst Ive seen. Saw a mod put maf mayor in and had a bunch of rules around mayor claims. Happened to be a really good town player rolled it so when he claimed everyone thought the game was done and he was about to go ham and solve it all. And this was offsite btw.

Lol that was off topic but it kinda related so figured I'd share.

I dont know whats "normal" here so all these PRs kinda wierds me out. Especially backups bcuz 1. Ive never seen backups and 2. There are too many backups IMO.

[Grendel]

One is a claimed PR, the other one is being scummy - I have no clue how it is more favorable either!!!!

Scanning his iso I think that this was the first time he referenced N_M's cliam. Doesn't sound like somebody suspicious of a faux back-up claim to me.

I think my lynch is inevitable, honestly. Your lynch doesn't delay it.

Since when does town power become so pessimistic that they'll hang?

[Cheetory6]

Oh I'm not saying it's bad.
Just saying that Implosion is one of those mods who is likely going to push the boundaries of what someone is going to expect from a mafia setup though, even in a normal game.

[Cheetory6]

Since when does town power become so pessimistic that they'll hang?

A backup motion detector?
You really think that's a deterrence to a lynch?

[NotTheRealPaul]

Edpecially as we r massclaiming and have a rolestopper. Rolestopper can simply protect regular motion detector.

[Grendel]

If there's a mod that's going to be weird shit into a normal game, it's implosion.
IE: I would not be shocked at all if Vedith or Hiraki are scum and are claiming their actual roles here.

I'm aware that implo likes funky set ups. I remember him referencing a game he modded where with two macho townies included in the set up.

Its just that two back up prs implies two more power roles. We already have Loyal friendly neighbor, and a flipped neighbor. Which means we probably have another neighbor somewhere.

So that's three right off the bat. Plus Whatever Puel is, plus two back up prs.

That would mean that there is up to

seven power roles in this set up if nobody is lying

. I don't think that'd pass inspection lol

[Grendel]

Since when does town power become so pessimistic that they'll hang?

A backup motion detector?
You really think that's a deterrence to a lynch?

Maybe its just me, but if I had power role that could be used to help town I'm probably not talking like I'm getting lynched. ever.

That whole line of thought felt fake to me since he came out with it right after I voiced similar sentiments.

[Grendel]

Oh I'm not saying it's bad.
Just saying that Implosion is one of those mods who is likely going to push the boundaries of what someone is going to expect from a mafia setup though, even in a normal game.

Actually wait.

Could two backs-up be passed if the real role(s) are not in the set up?

Like is that bastard or?

[Hiraki]

Since when does town power become so pessimistic that they'll hang?

I'm a back-up.

Scanning his iso I think that this was the first time he referenced N_M's cliam. Doesn't sound like somebody suspicious of a faux back-up claim to me.

This doesn't even make sense.

Maybe its just me, but if I had power role that could be used to help town I'm probably not talking like I'm getting lynched. ever.

keyword could -

explain to me how me - person who just came off of hardcore defending Nero who flips scum has any credibility with any power role?

i have no reason to try and defend against claims that because i claimed therefore the game is unbalanced and /my claim/ is the one that is most unbalanced because of non balance reasons

[Grendel]

Since when does town power become so pessimistic that they'll hang?

I'm a back-up.

Scanning his iso I think that this was the first time he referenced N_M's cliam. Doesn't sound like somebody suspicious of a faux back-up claim to me.

This doesn't even make sense.

Two-back ups in one set up and you didn't raise your eye brow?

Maybe its just me, but if I had power role that could be used to help town I'm probably not talking like I'm getting lynched. ever.

keyword could -

explain to me how me - person who just came off of hardcore defending Nero who flips scum has any credibility with any power role?

i have no reason to try and defend against claims that because i claimed therefore the game is unbalanced and /my claim/ is the one that is most unbalanced because of non balance reasons

Pretty sure that Vedith is the only player that is adamant you're scum for hard defending Nero.

Everybody else could see situations were you could do that as town.

[Hiraki]

pretty sure =/= actual

other than your godly rqs tells that are about to be blown out, everyone is clearly looking at me under a stringent lens for those actions

and no - that post had nothing to do with back-ups, i'm not a setup person and i'd rather catch people being scum for being scummy - i also know that the mod likes to make weird setups, since setup stuff is probably one of my weaker attributes, i'd rather have someone more experienced handle that stuff

[Grendel]

pretty sure =/= actual

other than your godly rqs tells that are about to be blown out, everyone is clearly looking at me under a stringent lens for those actions

You know at this point that I dislike snipes.

The whole reason I barely engaged you directly this game is b/c your insistent on dragging ppl who have their own opinians.

Like I don't get why you are being such a headache this game

and no - that post had nothing to do with back-ups, i'm not a setup person and i'd rather catch people being scum for being scummy - i also know that the mod likes to make weird setups, since setup stuff is probably one of my weaker attributes, i'd rather have someone more experienced handle that stuff

^Can anybody else verity this?

[NotTheRealPaul]

Wait Hiraki who do u scumread rn?

[implosion]

Vote Count 3.6

Hiraki (3): MuttonChopMagic, NotTheRealPaul, Grendel
Grendel (2): Hiraki, kraska77
Vedith (1): Vedith
Backhand (1): CCC

Not Voting (3): Cheetory6, gigabyteTroubadour, Backhand


With 10 alive, it takes 6 votes to lynch.
Deadline is at 7:00 PM PST on Wenesday, July 12, in (expired on 2017-07-12 19:00:00).

[kraska77]

seven power roles in this set up if nobody is lying

They're backups, not power roles. I just checked the wiki, including backups without primary roles is allowed in normal games. Also Hiraki gains nothing by claiming backup motion detector. Also you are scum

[Vedith]

Hiraki gains nothing by claiming backup motion detector.

This.

[gigabyteTroubadour]

massclaim should finish before any value calls wrt claims are made

[Vedith]

Gigga mad!

[gigabyteTroubadour]

[Cheetory6]

Grendel/Hiraki distancing?
Hiraki being this demotivated by Neroflip doesn't seem real and something about Grendel's push reads forced to me.

[Backhand]

I'm a Backup Vanilla Townsperson. Good thing for me waffles bit it so I gained his power.

[CCC]

I dont know whats "normal" here so all these PRs kinda wierds me out. Especially backups bcuz 1. Ive never seen backups and 2. There are too many backups IMO.

I have seen backups before, on this site. They are a thing that happens sometimes.

Two

backups might be too much. Or might not, Backup Motion Detector is pretty weak after all.

[CCC]

Edpecially as we r massclaiming and have a rolestopper. Rolestopper can simply protect regular motion detector.

Rolestopper will not do that because I am assuming that Rolestopper is not a complete idiot. Rolestopper's only place is on MCM, keeping him safe from the Mafia (I don't believe he only has two Loyal shots, which means he's basically a self-verifying Cop; far more powerful than a Motion Detector).

[CCC]

I'm a Backup Vanilla Townsperson. Good thing for me waffles bit it so I gained his power.

I believe it's my turn to claim next, then?

I'm a Vanilla Townie.