Newbie 1797: Space | Endgame

skitter30 · Post Post #1475 (ISO) » Wed Jul 12, 2017 5:30 pm

@BV: I'm sorry for the mislynch on you. I really didn't understand what you were trying to do at the end of the day, and everything you did just screamed 'caught scum' to me. I think we just really misread each other :/

NotTheRealPaul · Post Post #1476 (ISO) » Wed Jul 12, 2017 5:35 pm

skitters where u planning to sign up next? Id love to play another game with u. maybe we could hydra? I mean ur excellent blending in as scum and town and Idlove to learn from you.

also i really wanna hydra just to see what its like.

NotTheRealPaul · Post Post #1477 (ISO) » Wed Jul 12, 2017 5:36 pm

that said, im down to hydra with anyone who played here. yall were all pretty awesome

esires · Post Post #1478 (ISO) » Wed Jul 12, 2017 5:41 pm

Whoa, post-game Paul gettin' frisky

NotTheRealPaul · Post Post #1479 (ISO) » Wed Jul 12, 2017 5:43 pm

hehehehehe

skitter30 · Post Post #1480 (ISO) » Wed Jul 12, 2017 5:44 pm

@Paul: Thanks! Let me PM you to talk about it

And I agree! I liked playing with everyone here! This game was enjoyable and non-toxic, and I appreciate that everyone contributed to making the game pleasant and fun!

Plotinus · Post Post #1481 (ISO) » Wed Jul 12, 2017 6:16 pm

Thanks everyone for playing! You guys were awesome! Thanks for modding, ThinkBig!

In post 1456, NotTheRealPaul wrote:I think im allowed to post.

GG esires u played well. I was sooo annoyed at getting NKed bcuz I reread D2 looking at skitters and determined she was town and was ready to come and lynch u D4 lol. Then I get this PM saying im dead and im like wtf cuz I was ready to come win the game.

I know you meant well, and it didn't hurt anything this time, but it's important to stay in the dead thread until the mod says the game is over: in a theme game there might be some mechanic in play that doesn't mean it's over (maybe the person who was lynched was vengeful or something), but even in an open like this, you can always miscount the votes. It's a little like waiting for the final curtain before rushing on stage to congratulate the actors even though you know it's over because the villain just died.

BlackVoid · Post Post #1482 (ISO) » Wed Jul 12, 2017 9:03 pm

In post 1461, esires wrote:I also feel bad for BV because he was super-town and clearly got frustrated towards the end of D3.

Funny thing is I'm willing to bet anyone that spectated this game would townread me strongly.

(But hopefully no one did because this was flat-out embarrassing for me).

Counting this as a scum loss for myself. And esires, I set you up for success and you really let me down

This was like my best scumgame ever.

BlackVoid · Post Post #1483 (ISO) » Wed Jul 12, 2017 9:23 pm

In post 1475, skitter30 wrote:@BV: I'm sorry for the mislynch on you. I really didn't understand what you were trying to do at the end of the day, and everything you did just screamed 'caught scum' to me. I think we just really misread each other :/

No need to be sorry. You did everything that I could have expected from a good townie. You read and engaged all of my walls. You heard what I had to say and gave me a fair shot even if everyone thought NC was scummy. Even you read me wrong in the end, it's not a huge deal, and hey I was just as wrong about you as were about me. Also, there's definitely merit to being able to out 1v1 anyone that pushes you regardless of their alignment - you're just likely to win more if you're hard to lynch.

I wasn't upset or anything at the end. I "scumclaimed" because I thought my lynch was a foregone conclusion so my best shot at helping town at that point was to draw out reactions. I'm pretty sure you made your decision to lynch me before that happened though so it didn't change anything. Your reaction was extremely genuine but I didn't recognize it quickly enough. I found your analysis very deep and thoughtful, and if this is your first towngame, I'm very much looking forward to seeing what you'd play like with more experience under your belt. I love having insightful discussions with people who analyze games really thoroughly and the discussions with you early to mid-D3 definitely fit that bill.

BlackVoid · Post Post #1484 (ISO) » Wed Jul 12, 2017 9:30 pm

Overall, I'm pretty happy to have played this game. It gave some awesome psychological insights into my strengths and weaknesses as a scumhunter. I realized I mostly "townread" esires not because his play was town but because I was scumreading skitter which meant that with only one scum, everyone else had to be town. So, I stretched for any bit of reasoning I could to justify townreading esires while ignoring all the incredibly, solid logical evidence that pointed to him being scum. Also, the pressure of feeling like I'm going to get lynched next and lose town the game if we lynched esires and were wrong definitely hurt my ability to think logically and in hindsight, the way I overlooked esires scumminess in the pressure of the moment was absolutely fascinating and revelations like this is what makes mafia so much fun and worth playing - just to see if I can improve on it next time around. (That and my posts clearly amused the mods and if someone laughed, it's worth it).

Draynth · Post Post #1485 (ISO) » Wed Jul 12, 2017 9:35 pm

This was a fun game to read

Human Sequencer · Post Post #1486 (ISO) » Wed Jul 12, 2017 11:21 pm

Gg everybody.

In post 1170, esires wrote:Tbh having two people coordinate and gang up like this with walls of text just feels kinda shitty and not fun, so I'm sorta over it guys.

UNVOTE:

VOTE: esires

This is the post that gave your away, esires.
I felt kinda wary picking between you and skitters going into d4, and without posts like this proving how underconfident in your game you're feeling, you could have skirted your way to a victory. With finesse.

I understand, though.

Human Sequencer · Post Post #1487 (ISO) » Wed Jul 12, 2017 11:25 pm

Dunker got away with a lot this game by virtue of being a conftown. Your activity was very low, and what was there was very sheepy and non committal. This is bad as either alignment.

ThinkBig · Post Post #1488 (ISO) » Thu Jul 13, 2017 12:30 am

In post 1477, NotTheRealPaul wrote:that said, im down to hydra with anyone who played here. yall were all pretty awesome

I'd love to hydra with you if you're interested

NotTheRealPaul · Post Post #1489 (ISO) » Thu Jul 13, 2017 1:56 am

In post 1485, Draynth wrote:This was a fun game to read

im so sorry for helping get u lynched. I felt bad bcuz u replaced in and then immediately got lynched.

@TB that sounds awesome! I'll shoot u a PM

ThinkBig · Post Post #1490 (ISO) » Thu Jul 13, 2017 1:57 am

In post 1489, NotTheRealPaul wrote:
In post 1485, Draynth wrote:This was a fun game to read
im so sorry for helping get u lynched. I felt bad bcuz u replaced in and then immediately got lynched.

@TB that sounds awesome! I'll shoot u a PM

Sounds good!

NotTheRealPaul · Post Post #1491 (ISO) » Thu Jul 13, 2017 1:59 am

@TB gimme like half an hour I need to get ready for school

@Plot sorry bout that. I was just rlly excuted. I'll wait next time

Plotinus · Post Post #1492 (ISO) » Thu Jul 13, 2017 2:02 am

It's okay! I figured you just didn't know the etiquette yet, but you'll need to know it for future games

skitter30 · Post Post #1493 (ISO) » Thu Jul 13, 2017 3:34 am

In post 1485, Draynth wrote:This was a fun game to read

Sorry about your lynch :/ I felt kinda bad about it, since we lynched you hours after you replaced in, but with Dunker claiming like hours before deadline when most of the players were asleep, I felt like I was between a rock and a hard place, so I picked the least-bad option.

Going into Night 1, I was *pretty* certain we wouldn't be getting a night-kill (I wrote up a whole thing somewhere about what I expected scum to do night1/day 2, which I think TB said he put in the mod thread, so people will get to read it eventually), so I wanted to ensure we got a flip from the first day, since I didn't think we'd be getting one that night.

skitter30 · Post Post #1494 (ISO) » Thu Jul 13, 2017 3:46 am

In post 1483, BlackVoid wrote: No need to be sorry. You did everything that I could have expected from a good townie. You read and engaged all of my walls. You heard what I had to say and gave me a fair shot even if everyone thought NC was scummy. Even you read me wrong in the end, it's not a huge deal, and hey I was just as wrong about you as were about me. Also, there's definitely merit to being able to out 1v1 anyone that pushes you regardless of their alignment - you're just likely to win more if you're hard to lynch.

I wasn't upset or anything at the end. I "scumclaimed" because I thought my lynch was a foregone conclusion so my best shot at helping town at that point was to draw out reactions. I'm pretty sure you made your decision to lynch me before that happened though so it didn't change anything. Your reaction was extremely genuine but I didn't recognize it quickly enough. I found your analysis very deep and thoughtful, and if this is your first towngame, I'm very much looking forward to seeing what you'd play like with more experience under your belt. I love having insightful discussions with people who analyze games really thoroughly and the discussions with you early to mid-D3 definitely fit that bill.

Yep! I *really* enjoyed playing with you, and I liked your walls a lot. Early-mid day3, you talked me around into a townread on you, which was pretty good because I was *convinced* your slot was scum after we lynched Drixx. Towards the end of the day, I was actually a bit worried that I had let myself get swayed into a townread because I liked your posting style

I liked the way you analyzed the game and how thorough you were being, and hence you 'inspired' me to do the same

First towngame onsite, but I play elsewhere, although the format is kinda different so it's not *quite* forum mafia. As town, I've never gotten mislynched, and I can win 1v1s because I *know* I'm right, and I will argue about it until I get everyone else to agree with me.

I don't think I can do that as scum, or be as prolific as I was here. It's a lot easier to write that many walls when you know that you're right and know what your opinions are, instead of having to fabricate things on the fly.

I'd definitely like to play with you again

Draynth · Post Post #1495 (ISO) » Thu Jul 13, 2017 3:49 am

In post 1493, skitter30 wrote:
In post 1485, Draynth wrote:This was a fun game to read
Sorry about your lynch :/ I felt kinda bad about it, since we lynched you hours after you replaced in, but with Dunker claiming like hours before deadline when most of the players were asleep, I felt like I was between a rock and a hard place, so I picked the least-bad option.

It's cool, It was 4am when I replaced in and I hadn't slept so that definitely didn't help my coherence

NotTheRealPaul · Post Post #1496 (ISO) » Thu Jul 13, 2017 4:00 am

Isnt Drixx gonna do the IC stuff and post a bunch of thoughts?

NotTheRealPaul · Post Post #1497 (ISO) » Thu Jul 13, 2017 4:01 am

And isnt their an IC thread? I thought I remember one from last time.

Plotinus · Post Post #1498 (ISO) » Thu Jul 13, 2017 4:13 am

Released empty IC confessional

TesXX · Post Post #1499 (ISO) » Thu Jul 13, 2017 4:19 am

Good game everyone. I was pretty sure we were gonna win after Drixx flipped scum. I actually was starting tl recinsider a few things on Drixx, Paul, and HS but I didn't have the time to say/explain it. The only point I

was

worried about the possibility of town losing was in late day 3 and early day 4, but as d4 progressed I was pretty sure we had this. My win streak has yet to be broken.
If anybody wants me to give feedback tell me and I will do so. This was my first time as SE.