Open 693 - Capture the (White) Flag - Mod KIA

[BTD6_maker]

@Mod

V/LA until the 16th of July.

[Donempire]

Mario isnt scum by the way, he'd have slipped some point by now.

http://www.britishburnassociation.org/burns-units

Sike, im not from UK.

[MarioManiac4]

I am though and I was the one your sick burn landed upon

[Io]

See? Getting some reactions is fine and dandy and its much better than sitting around voting Io.

LUV scum, Jimmy town.
I'll touch more on this later, right now im going to focus on the task at hand.
VOTE: IO

If LUV is scum you're a hypocrite because LUV's been death tunneling me the whole game and if you think I'm scum you are flat wrong.

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So here's my thoughts on QR and Empire as I am starting to suspect them as a scum team.
It starts back at post 303: Note that from QR's reaction test he said that is confirmed Empire as town and me as scum. Nothing really suspicious about that, standard reaction test result post.
It really wasn't until recently I realized that QR could very likely be scum with Empire. And what pinged me this may be the case was post 546 from Empire.
The reason that post makes me suspicious that QR and Empire could be a scum team was because of Empire saying LUV was scum with me which I think could have been an accidental slip trying to save QR. The reason for this being that (assuming I am correct in this connection) is that empire would know that QR lead a death tunnel on a townie and it would be wise for him to push suspicion onto another player who was on the wagon, and one that had very little reasoning for the vote which would be LUV.
There's also as I think it was Chick who pointed out QR was seemingly acting like his reaction test was a confirmable town move.
TLDR: Empire seemingly covering for QR nearing end day and QR "confirming" Empire through the reaction test is making them a likely scum grouping in my opinion.



There's also some outliars I could see as scum like Flairs, Sesq, and MM4.
Flairs as I pointed out could be scum with Empire as Empire was white knighting them in a way since he was using my slight push on Flairs as a reason I am scum.
Sessq because of what Chick and MM4 already pointed out, and MM4 because it feels like they are trying to buddy up with me a bit.
I would avoid going after these two though until at least one member from each of those possible scum groups I mentioned above are dead. Preferably for me would be LUV and Empire that die. Assuming 1 flips scum which I think is likely one will I'm pretty sure the other in their respective groups is also scum.

Keep in mind only 2 scum need to die, hince why I don't think going after outliar scum with no associations like Sesq is a good idea because even if they flip scum and not town they will give no information as to who other possible scum are.

VOTE: Dongempire

I'm going back to voting for Empire. We still have at least 3 days and it's on hold while we get replacements so I'd rather try and get the person I want lynched than going for someone who may be scum but will give no associations.
At least if Empire flipped scum he would be telling of the alignments of QR, LUV, and Flairs I believe. And if he ends up being town then he was probably right about LUV being scum as the only reason I'm not scum reading LUV is because I am scum reading Empire and those two I don't think could be scum together.

[JimmyUrineMoneyShot]

UNVOTE:

Io may have just changed my mind. Reading that post by dongempire really bothered me and it makes me think his so called "drama explosion" was just some act.

[Sesq]

You've done nothing but dance around all game trying to look busy, and then you call me out on it? You've been fluffy all day, you've laid down several votes and run away. You've done nothing deep and meaningful. Then you come in and drop a reads list with no explanation.



Nope

VOTE: Sesq
Let's dance.

are you familiar with my play style lmao

it can take me forever to get acquanited with a game

HOWEVER

people voting me is a good way to do this.

you accuse me of trying to look busy, and no, i have been no illusionist. i have never made claims to having any sort of grasp on the game or have any idea what im doing, or having put any effort into anything. however, given your reactions ive gotten more confident that you are scum

viewtopic.php?t=71042&f=50&st=0&sk=t&sd ... er_sort=Go

Tis much more interested as town, it seems.

you seem to have conveniently ignored disinterested town me

so yeah chickadee is scum, LUV i dont really konw anymore, dong is probably frustrated town.

[Donempire]

UNVOTE:

Io may have just changed my mind. Reading that post by dongempire really bothered me and it makes me think his so called "drama explosion" was just some act.

And we're back at square one! Isnt this exciting?

[Kop]

I don't think Empire is scum, his few posts that I just read are screaming frustrated town. I won't be voting there.

Let me read back fully.

[Kop]

VOTE: Lil Uzi Vert

Right now, I believe this the only wagon I can join. Re-reading his ISO, I can't get a feel that tells me that he is town. Fence sitting, defending other slots with a slight confidence that he knows, and trying to look actively busy. He hasn't changed his vote on Io which would tell me that he is tunnelling but he really isn't. The whole if I'm wrong lynch me tomorrow is another point I don't like, it's appealing with a bargaining chip and a tool I wouldn't like to use to force through a lynch on someone because he can't get the traction that he wants.

[Chickadee]

I'd be fine voting sesq or LUV today.

I've been on the fence about LUV all game. He just hasn't obvtowned to me, and if it hasn't happened at this point I'm just not sure. I can usually get a pretty good read on him so this is concerning to me. I want to ISO him later when I can get to a computer before voting though.

When does day end?

[Steel]

Chikadee you seem you know lil uzi. He said he was 90% confident on io flipping scum earlier offered to be lynched if he were wrong. Firstly is this fitting with his character, secondly if he is town how much would you trust his scumread judgement?

[Steel]

As deadline loomed I had wished to resolve the Io-Dong-Lil conflict and take what lynch appeared viable, yet with it frozen for a time unknown I'm unsure if she is the best option still if now nothing is off the table.

[DeltaW]

A2 has been disconnected.
Flairs has been kicked for being afk for too long.
Countdown remains paused.

[DeltaW]

VC 1.10

Io (L-3) - Lil Uzi Vert, QuantumRadius, Steel, Dongempire
Sesq (L-5) - Chickadee, MarioManiac4
Dongempire (L-6) - Io
Chickadee (L-6) - Sesq
Lil Uzi Vert (L-6) - Kop

Spawn Campers (4) - ex-Flairs, BTD6_maker, JUMS, Kop, ex-A2

With 13 alive it takes 7 to lynch.

Countdown paused due to replacements.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

VOTE: Lil Uzi Vert

Right now, I believe this the only wagon I can join. Re-reading his ISO, I can't get a feel that tells me that he is town. Fence sitting, defending other slots with a slight confidence that he knows, and trying to look actively busy. He hasn't changed his vote on Io which would tell me that he is tunnelling but he really isn't. The whole if I'm wrong lynch me tomorrow is another point I don't like, it's appealing with a bargaining chip and a tool I wouldn't like to use to force through a lynch on someone because he can't get the traction that he wants.

Where have I been fencesitting? I've been voting my strongest scum read since the beginning of the middle of this day.

I defend slots I'm either not considering for a day or that I town read. Confidence isn't AI, it's personality trait.

How have I been trying to look busy?

As for my offer, that's how I play. I like to prove people wrong and learn why I didn't if I fail to do so. I will have no qualms with getting lynched tomorrow if everyone votes Io today and she flips town. If I try to go back on my word, which I wouldn't do but if I did, speed lynch me like no tomorrow.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

I'd be fine voting sesq or LUV today.

I've been on the fence about LUV all game. He just hasn't obvtowned to me, and if it hasn't happened at this point I'm just not sure. I can usually get a pretty good read on him so this is concerning to me. I want to ISO him later when I can get to a computer before voting though.

When does day end?

[Lil Uzi Vert]

@Mod: Just pause the game overnight. You're running it by pausing it this way.

[Steel]

A2 has been disconnected.

What does this mean?

[Lil Uzi Vert]

@Mod: Just pause the game overnight. You're ruining it by pausing it this way.

EBWOP.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Think it means they asked for replacement. I don't remember him getting prodded.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Unlike Alisae, I don't see why he would unless he just couldn't deal with stubbornness.

[Steel]

No, with replacements there are less potential votes so it be fair. Consider the extreme example of a game in which half the players within a game replace, they would be unable to reach any lynch.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Everyone on Io's and Sesq is active. Kop just voted for me. That's 7 peoole.

We have enough for a lynch.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

My experience leads me to believe that town would've consolidated on Io already.

[Steel]

That's enough for a lynch if all members are town, yet if one or multiple are scum a lynch onto scum would only be at their leisure if they choose to bus and impossible otherwise.

I shall judge this game anew when I return.