Micro 717: Upick: With blood and sword GAME OVER

[Pokemon Uranium]

Excellent. If by some miracle people make the right lynch (hint:Vedith!) I can challenge you and you can kill me and make it so Raya can still fire that night (since if I were not to challenge you I'd be open to scum actions that take place before kills, making Raya firing abad idea because it could leave it at 1 Town 1 mafia which is game over)
If we do lynch Vedith imo Raya should shoot HS

[drealmerz7]

yeppp, still totally good with lynching either PU or vedith

[Raya36]

Catching up now. Sorry for my absence.

Lynch PU for sure, but anyone feels like they could be bussing here

I need a chance to reread the game i think to see who of {HS, Vedith/Mort, Dreal} is the scummiest

pedit: that too i guess but it's mylo

As of now I am also happy with a PU lynch.

So from my understanding either PU or Vedith is lying, therefore scum is very likely to be at least one of them.

i think the plan is scum!PU => Vig HS, town!PU => Vig Vedith, drealmerz protects Raya regardless. I'm going to take no actions tonight so if Vedith is not getting vigged he's free to motion detect me.

Will vote when Raya gives the OK to end the day.

I am okay with this plan, however I have another idea below.

get lynched omfg

if you were actually town gambitting you wouldn't try to call out vedith as scum for his claim asldhfalsdhfjkasdlhfkjlasdflaksdbklsad;;; CEASE

He's still lying. We checked to make sure we weren't killed when massclaim happened because we lose our weakness on the first kill attempt for something else we aren't informed of, so being killed before any other actions would have made us not die. We know we were not attacked over the course of the last two nights, so Vedith investigating us would have killed us.

After this (and the argument after) I'm actually feeling more inclined to think maybe it's Vedith who is lying and who we should lynch. If Vedith flips town then I will shoot PU, if he flips scum then it's a lot less likely PU is scum as well.

[gigabyteTroubadour]

my only concern is

vedith flips town and gamma is lying about the mechanics of his role and is just BP (challenging doesnt turn it off)

plus if he's scum I can't challenge him to vig him

[Famethyst]

my only concern is

vedith flips town and gamma is lying about the mechanics of his role and is just BP (challenging doesnt turn it off)

plus if he's scum I can't challenge him to vig him

[Raya36]

I left something out when I claimed that way if PU was lying they wouldn't know about this. My 1 shot can go through any defences (which I assume includes a bp's vest). After revisiting my rolecard for the mc I saw this and I sort of felt like there must be a reason I can shoot a bp (unless this is nore common than I realize) so I wanted to hear more from PU before I announced that I actually could shoot them.

[Chairman Doggo]

ok then we have time to think

i dont buy gamma's claim but this means no matter what we get scum in {PU, Vedith} since now we dont need to worry about fringe cases like dreal/vedith as the team or being forced to vig a BP

UNVOTE:

voting doesnt matter since we dont need to conf dreal/vedith as town

[Pokemon Uranium]

Yeah
I was about to say that
Also lol Chairman Doggo
-Gamma

[Famethyst]

ok then we have time to think

i dont buy gamma's claim but this means no matter what we get scum in {PU, Vedith} since now we dont need to worry about fringe cases like dreal/vedith as the team or being forced to vig a BP

UNVOTE:

voting doesnt matter since we dont need to conf dreal/vedith as town

they use the same theme >_>

[Famethyst]

was going to swap my themes around later though lol

[Pokemon Uranium]

Also why don't you believe our claim?

[drealmerz7]

@mod vc please?

[Vedith]

@Raya - Explain how I can be lying when I knew that he wasn't ascetic?
The only way I can know that is if I visited him.
Otherwise, explain why I wouldn't just say no result since PU would have been an easy push there.

[Human Sequencer]

replace me

[drealmerz7]

??????????????

[Pokemon Uranium]

Apparently she's siteflaking, which is odd since I checked her recent posts and I don't see anything to trigger it?

[Vedith]

It could be for reasons not connected to site.
If you're site flaking, all the best, HS!

[drealmerz7]

I think our mod siteflaked

[WhemeStar]

I don't know if I get a bah post or not but

Bah post!

[Raya36]

I think our mod siteflaked

He logged on yesterday so I doubt it.

@Raya - Explain how I can be lying when I knew that he wasn't ascetic?
The only way I can know that is if I visited him.
Otherwise, explain why I wouldn't just say no result since PU would have been an easy push there.

Maybe you're right. I looked back over the claims and I guess there is no way you could have lyed about knowing PU was not ascetic and the fact that PU didn't die when you checked them suggests that they could be lying about the non-killing abilities kill them.

You changed because it's impossible for you to be ascetic with me checking you.

But it still conflicts

Not sure what I really think of this. Could PU have purposefully switched their claim to something that conflicts with Vedith so they could push Vedith for lying or are they telling the truth and this conflict really does show that Vedith is lying. I doubt if PU is scum claiming something new that conflicted would be a mistake. If scum are claiming something I feel that they would put enough thought into it to avoid a conflict. Any thoughts anyone?


So what's the plan? Lynch PU and I shoot Vedith if they flip town or vice versa? Also who should I shoot if the one we lynch flips scum?

[drealmerz7]

I think you should shoot the other regardless just to be sure they're not scum together, but, mehhh, that idea probably doesn't go over well

[Raya36]

What what idea doesn't go over well? Your idea or mine?

[Pokemon Uranium]

@Mod: can I challenge someone if they don't begin the night in the same zone? Also, can I willingly lose a challenge?

These are crucial to determining if there's a method of getting beat that we can use

[drealmerz7]

mine, shooting the one that doesn't get lynched regardless of the flip of the one that is lynched

[Raya36]

Oh okay. I see why you want to do that. Better to be safe. That said I highly doubt they are scum together so I think it would make more sense to look for potential scum buddies and targets for each case.