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[MarioManiac4]

ok, were you hoping to achieve anything by pointing it out?

[Carcalilly]

just wanna let you all know about my fos on alban that may grow along the course of this game

[MarioManiac4]

but like do you think self-meta will come exclusively from scum here?

[Tchill13]

I commented on steel while I don't lean anything on him because he looks like an easy wagon for scum to try and push if the game stalls a bit or there's not any good slots to try and get lynched as scum.

[MarioManiac4]

darn you foiling my attempts to get scumreads

[Tchill13]

I figured it was just a matter of time if steel kept doing that.

[Tchill13]

VOTE: Steel
Your No-Lynch gimmick is mediocre and your insistence on continuing it when everyone ignores it is bad.

VOTE: Steel

Like here Mario I can see you as town voting steel because you just mentioned you're having difficulty getting scum reads so you kinda just throw your vote here and see what happens. Well vedith hops on and naked votes steel.

VOTE: vedith

[MarioManiac4]

i mean that's totally ignoring context but ok

[Tchill13]

I'm banking on the gut feeling I have that you're not scum and I doubt scum is going to try and get that wagon started. They're more likely to jump on early because that's less attention in my honest opinion.

[Io]

The thing about Steel is that voting for a no lynch at this point in time isn't something scum would do...It also isn't something town would do either.
It's just something no one would ever do regardless of alignment. It's a completely meaningless vote because he knows that, no matter what he or other people are, no one will follow his vote because no one is just going to end day 1 that early.
It's more likely than not just a joke vote because no one would be seriously considering a no lynch 4 days into day 1.

[Io]

That self meta tho

You know, while I don't really like it when people self meta what's the point of this?
I don't really see it as a scum tell which is what I think you are implying because I know there are people out their who genuinely believe that giving self meta can clear them as town.

[Vedith]

VOTE: Steel

Feel free to do so. It gives us an extra Town Power Role.

Mario can I just sheep you day 1?

VOTE: Steel
Your No-Lynch gimmick is mediocre and your insistence on continuing it when everyone ignores it is bad.

If you're going to vote me for a naked vote, at least get the facts right first, Chilly.

[Io]

Well I guess to further elaborate I just think those are NAI things.
At least the case on Steel is, Alban's is mostly NAI but I would agree that self meta is done slightly more often by scum like maybe a 4:6 T:S usage of self meta based on anecdotal evidence.

[Ircher]

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Day 1 VC #7

Awesome (0) -​​
Vedith (2) - Alban (104), Tchill13 (231)
Lil Uzi (1) - Scorpious (99)
Steel (2) - Mario (189), Vedith (193)
I​​o (0) -
Scorpious (0) -
Alban (0) -
Tchill13 (0) -
Carcalilly (1) - Innocent (69)
Mario (2) - Carcalilly (170), Lil Uzi (192)
Innocent (2) - Io (204), Awesome (205)
No Lynch (1) - Steel (182)
Not Voting (0) -

Lynch Threshold

With 11 alive, it takes 6 to lynch.

Deadline

Day 1 will end by July 27, 2017 5:00 PM EDT or in (expired on 2017-07-27 17:00:00).

Moderator Notes

Moderator V/LA July 24-28. Please address issues to Gamma Emerald during that time.
Have fun!

Spoiler: Current Voting History

Day 1

Awesome: Scorpious (73) --> Innocent (205)
Vedith: Carcalilly (88) --> Tchill13 (135) --> Steel (193)
Lil Uzi: Mario (192)
Steel: No Lynch (127) ==> No Lynch (182)
Io: Steel (67) --> Io (132) --> (Null) (164) --> Innocent (204)
Scorpious: Lil Uzi (99)
Alban: Vedith (104)
Tchill13: Carcalilly (129) --> (Null) (147) --> Vedith (231)
Carcalilly: Mario (78) --> Vedith (90) --> Lil Uzi (102) ==> Lil Uzi (120) --> Io (133) --> Tchill13 (138) --> Mario (170)
Mario: Carcalilly (66) --> (Null) (157) --> Tchill13 (174) --> Scorpious (176) --> Steel (189)
Innocent: Carcalilly (69)

Spoiler: Previous Voting History

Dawn

Awesome: Mario (7)
Vedith: Tchill13 (13) --> Scorpious (24)
Tchill13: Mario (49)
Carcalilly: Vedith (15) --> Mario (19) --> Scorpious (30) --> Mario (58)
Mario: Vedith (4) --> Carcalilly (50)

[MarioManiac4]

I feel like it's a really awkward reaction test though.
Like, Steel votes no lynch, sure, w/e.
But when he does it again, that's just trying to force a reaction when none exists. It's not going with the actual flow of reactions, it's like "HI GUYS DID YOU REMEMBER I EXIST YEAH I'M GOING TO DO THIS REACTION TEST YAY PLEASE RESPOND SO I CAN GET THE TOWNCREDIT"

[Ircher]

Prodding I am Innocent (3d 3h). He has (expired on 2017-07-18 16:03:27) to respond.

[Carcalilly]

That self meta tho

You know, while I don't really like it when people self meta what's the point of this?
I don't really see it as a scum tell which is what I think you are implying because I know there are people out their who genuinely believe that giving self meta can clear them as town.

I'd vote him if I thought it was a that dire of a scumtell
I'm just stating the obvious

[Vedith]

Carca, you Scum?

[Tchill13]

I agree with Mario but there's very limited information to push that slot.

[Tchill13]

As in steel

[Carcalilly]

Carca, you Scum?

no

[Lil Uzi Vert]

@Mod: v/LA until Friday. Internet is very spotty and my phone charger port needs to be fixed, again.

[Io]

That self meta tho

You know, while I don't really like it when people self meta what's the point of this?
I don't really see it as a scum tell which is what I think you are implying because I know there are people out their who genuinely believe that giving self meta can clear them as town.

I'd vote him if I thought it was a that dire of a scumtell
I'm just stating the obvious

Fair enough.

[Steel]

Tell not ircher, but I was prodging since his ruleset does not count prodges as prodges.

Tomorrow morning when I wake.

You know I read these posts, right?
~Ircher

[alban]

Alban's is mostly NAI but I would agree that self meta is done slightly more often by scum like maybe a 4:6 T:S usage of self meta based on anecdotal evidence.

That's an interesting observation. Why is scum (slightly) more invested in self-meta? Will they do that even in a game where a substantial number has played with them before? For example, I have played with at least 3 out of 10 players here.