In post 190, Vaxkiller wrote:Like I would really put myself out there to save a scum buddy that is going to be lynched? How plays that blatant? Should I scum read you for accusing me of something awful like that?
The post you made would be more weird/incriminating if im wrong about chickadee, which would point to you white knighting the slot for a post that sounded really offputting to me.
WHy is it only wrong/more incriminating if your wrong about chickadee?
Answer me this first; Why of all posts did you choose that one to put emphasis on and ask for answers? Because it sure seemed like a terrible post to me, that jumped to rediculous conclusions based on the statements I made.
Did you really want me to answer whether I wanted to policy lynch Chickadee? Because to me that seems like a really weird, rhethorical question to want answered.
In post 191, Robbnva wrote:I don't understand your request. I'm not mad at him. I think he's scum. There is no "making nice" that needs to be done. I've given him ample opportunity to do something to make me change my read, he hasn't been able to.
And youre sure its not more of an ego thing because he refuses to respond to your requests? And brushes you off as the newby thats not worth responding to? Thats what it looks like to everyone, and if Wisdom is actually scum here - thats what he's counting on and what will make his strategy work. And youre providing him with the cover, and falling right in his trap.
In post 191, Robbnva wrote:I don't understand your request. I'm not mad at him. I think he's scum. There is no "making nice" that needs to be done. I've given him ample opportunity to do something to make me change my read, he hasn't been able to.
And youre sure its not more of an ego thing because he refuses to respond to your requests? And brushes you off as the newby thats not worth responding to? Thats what it looks like to everyone, and if Wisdom is actually scum here - thats what he's counting on and what will make his strategy work. And youre providing him with the cover, and falling right in his trap.
Patience young one
Well, I was concerned that Vecna was subtly trying to derail the wisdom wagon (calling robb, myself, and wisdom all obvtowning) but this is much more clear. Males me feel better about him.
That said Vecna, Wisdom pinged me *before* he decided to get all obstinate and refuse to explain his vote.
You know your being just as obstinate as wisdom here. The way the message comes off you are saying other people are bringing up valid points? Who?
Not sure how you interpreted it that way. Because that isn't what I am saying. I am saying that I have brought up valid points and I think based on what is available to us, he is the best lynch.
In post 202, Vecna wrote:And youre sure its not more of an ego thing because he refuses to respond to your requests? And brushes you off as the newby thats not worth responding to? Thats what it looks like to everyone, and if Wisdom is actually scum here - thats what he's counting on and what will make his strategy work. And youre providing him with the cover, and falling right in his trap.
Patience young one
Considering i have already provided numerous reasons why i am scum reading him, no I don't really think it is an ego thing. He is doing things that I think are legitimately scummy and I lynch people who I think are scummy.
I think it's funny that you think he is treating me like a newby when I have been on site longer than he has, so clearly I am not a newby. I don't see myself ever changing my vote off him, and I am willing to bet anything (if this was allowed) that he will be gone from this game either by the end of D1 or end of D2
Proudest mafia moment was the greatest unvote in the history of mafiascum.
In post 204, Robbnva wrote:I am saying that I have brought up valid points and I think based on what is available to us, he is the best lynch.
So you would auto-lynch wisdom in every game he plays?
The 2017 Mafiascum meta of allowing players to get away with intentional crap play because its what they do is a problem. What makes him worth keeping around?
How can you tell the difference between townie playing like scum and scum being scummy?
I can't tell the difference.
I look at what wisdom has done and ask myself if I would do that as town? I say no
I then as myself do I think other townies would do that as town? I think probably not.
If I can't see town motivation for something, I conclude there must not be any. Town need to work together and be transparent. Wisdom isn't doing that and actually doesn't want to work together. So to me, he is scum.
Proudest mafia moment was the greatest unvote in the history of mafiascum.
In post 209, Vaxkiller wrote:Don't you think its a problem policy lynching people for said problem? On the whole policy lynches benefit scum.
I would disagree with that, or at least I think the
threat
of a "policy" lynch (if asking people to explain what they're thinking in a mafia game is a policy) should be in play. I'm aware I'm in the minority with that position
In post 208, Backhand wrote:The 2017 Mafiascum meta of allowing players to get away with intentional crap play because its what they do is a problem. What makes him worth keeping around?
lol
Ive been around since 2012
do you really think policy lynching me will achieve something?
In post 208, Backhand wrote:The 2017 Mafiascum meta of allowing players to get away with intentional crap play because its what they do is a problem. What makes him worth keeping around?
lol
Ive been around since 2012
do you really think policy lynching me will achieve something?
I would prefer not to have to try--feel free to actually explain what you're thinking about and why.
Doing a quick jog back through the thread here's where I'm at right now:
Moza town - A bit stubborn but I get town vibes from later posts
Dany scum lean - Post 26 pinged me, because he said I was doing something I wasn't. Other people pointed this out, so I know it's not just me seeing it.
Backhand null scum - Defended Moza in the whole LUV-read-fiasco. Seemed to be on the same page as Moza
Edo still seems to be in RVS? I have limited play experience with them.
Persivul totes scum. Look at that smug avi. Bet he knows everything about the game.
A50 - it takes me a second to get a read on A50, but if I had to say something right off the bat, it feels like town A50. That's not going on much though.
Vax - I can't read him well. I can't remember if I've ever been in a position to have to read him. Maybe once?
Vecna - scum lean
Desperado - Defended me, but it looks like it was just something to do rather than a real stance. The only time I've played with him we were both town and I was horrendously wrong at reading him. So I'm gonna give this one some time.
Rob Town lean - proactive, I like where he pushes things
LUV Town Lean
Vecna prob scum - I'm failing to follow his thought process. He scum reads both Moza and me because of our interaction. That's some elaborate scum theater there. Also pointing out the thing between Wisdom and Robb. Looks like he's pushing people who are poking things and trying to game solve.
Wisdom null scum - I say null scum because he could just be town that doesn't like to work with people, which is not helpful at all.
Gerry's V/LA ends today. Forgot about that until I skimmed back through. Was wondering where he was. We should be hearing from him soon hopefully.
Just realized I have Vecna listed twice. I started this list on lunch break and then finished it just now upon returning from work and catching up on what happened during the day. So, the second listing of Vecna is the accurate one.
In post 216, Chickadee wrote:Desperado - Defended me, but it looks like it was just something to do rather than a real stance. The only time I've played with him we were both town and I was horrendously wrong at reading him. So I'm gonna give this one some time.
I'm really not clicking with you Desp. You vote me, then defend the point I was making, then say you're fine with where your vote is. What about that warrants '???'?
Actually, you do. It helps clear the air and let's everyone concentrate on the SCUM if you're Town. Chicka is TOWN to me, but I won't be pressing you for an answer. Someone else though might and they have every right to understand where you're coming from.
Please try to see things from "the other one's" perspective.
