Night and Day Mafia (Game Over)

[Bulbazak]

I don't know what a Railgun is, and I don't care. Do you think BTD plays exactly like you as scum or town?

[A2]

oh yeah btw

Bulbazak is so town that everytime someone votes him Mastin coughs blood.

[MathBlade]

I'm exclusively referring to Ginn.

And at the very least you can help me get a clearer picture.

I think you may have misread Gin's intentions. I didn't get the sense that they meant to troll you, if you felt that's what she was doing I can understand that you'd be upset by it. I know that you two don't get along, if you're unable to talk with each other that's fine.

What would you like me to help you a clearer picture of?

I think that with the result we have on the board we should absolutely lynch between MathBlade and BTD today.

Lol one does not beget the other. I AM not ascetic something that can easily be verified. Why the fuck are you making this a have to now?

BTD6 could be a tracker who was blocked, could be a scum tracker who knows who I did/did not visit and is floundering, scum who isn't even a tracker at all. This is NOT a 1v1 instance although I have no problem because I scumread BTD6 because of what BTD6 is doing. In Inception they were lurksacky and smart when posting as Town. This is not that.

[MathBlade]

I don't know what a Railgun is, and I don't care. Do you think BTD plays exactly like you as scum or town?

Not required.

You're saying scum don't do things. I demonstrated scum do. The honus is on you to demonstrate BTD6 scum wouldn't fake a derp. I have seen BTD6 town and this ain't it. I destroyed your argument. It is up to you to reinforce it or acknowledge you don't have a point and are trying to save BTD6

[MathBlade]

Pedit: Railgun is a game I was scum in.

[79 CE]

That's kind of my issue. I feel like if you were town you would've made this a 1v1 and been screaming to high heavens for BTD's head. Why haven't you?

[MathBlade]

Now I am getting my damn groceries and making dinner so I will be offline for a few hours and then will catch up on missing posts. If you don't like it shove it. RL first.

[MathBlade]

That's kind of my issue. I feel like if you were town you would've made this a 1v1 and been screaming to high heavens for BTD's head. Why haven't you?

Because I don't know what happened. BTD6 could have blocked me or maybe he didn't. There is no way for me to know. I scumread BTD6 but if I explain it requires claiming and I would rather hunt. Scum want to know something I am pretty damn sure that is why I am being wagoned.

Groceries beckon.

[MathBlade]

That's kind of my issue. I feel like if you were town you would've made this a 1v1 and been screaming to high heavens for BTD's head. Why haven't you?

Because I don't know what happened. BTD6 could have blocked me or maybe he didn't. There is no way for me to know. I scumread BTD6 but if I explain it requires claiming and I would rather hunt. Scum want to know something I am pretty damn sure that is why I am being wagoned.

Groceries beckon.

Merged thoughts. Could have been blocked or tracked me*

[A2]

Hey guys
I would like ywall to read the interesting fun thing
called
MECHANICS

Game Mechanics

:

The Light, The Dark

• This game is explicitly a
  14
  :
  4
  Town
  :
  Mafia
  game.
  
• This game will feature
  four phases
  :
  1. The
     Day Phase
     works just like any other game. Players talk and may vote on who to lynch.
     
  2. The
     Night Phase
     works just like any other game. The game thread will be locked (however, private topics will remain open), and players may privately submit any night action they are capable of performing.
     
  3. The
     Dawn Phase
     (end of night) and the
     Dusk/Twilight Phase
     (end of day) will be transitionary phases: all relevant actions from the night/day phase trigger, and it is at this point they are resolved. These two phases will last only as long as necessary for all pertinent actions taking place within this phase to be resolved. (Namely, player transfers.)
• Just like in any other game, there will be a game thread open during the day phase closed during all other phases. It is within this thread players are obligated to post (as posts outside the game thread will not count towards prod timers), and it is within that thread players must vote.
  
• However
  , this game will be divided into two sides:
  Light
  and
  Dark
  .
  
• Each side is essentially a neighborhood, containing a private topic in which all current members of that side may talk in at all times.
  • Players may not vote within these topics. Players may not post in the game thread content from the private thread unless it is their own. Posts within these topics will not reset activity requirements. They will otherwise function like the game thread.
• The
  Dark
  side is Mountainous: any player who is in the dark side cannot use their role, even if they know what their role is.
  • Mafia within the
    Dark
    may still use their nightkill and discuss with teammates, but no other powers are available to them.
• The
  Light
  side is Role Madness: every player who is in the light side has a role which they may use within its given limitations for as long as they are on the light side.
  
• Players who begin in the
  Dark
  will not be informed of what their role is. Instead, they will be informed of their alignment, and of their role
  type
  . (E.g. a Vigilante would be "Town Killing", a Cop would be "Town Investigative".)
  
• Players who die in the
  Dark
  will not have their full role PM flip: they will have their alignment and role
  type
  flip. (E.g. a Vigilante would flip "
  Town Killing
  ", a Cop would flip "
  Town Investigative
  ", a Mafia Rolecop would flip "
  Mafia Investigative
  ".)
  
• Dynamics are determined not by starting position, but by
  current position
  . That means, a player who started as
  Light
  will, if within
  Dark
  , not have their role work; that same player who started in
  Light
  will, iff killed, have only their role type flip. Similarly, a player who started as
  Dark
  will, if killed in
  Light
  , have their
  full role
  flip.
  
• Players in the

  Light

  may target players in the

  Dark

  freely
  . There is no isolation between sides limiting you to targeting within your own side.
  
• Players
  only get one lynch per day
  , determined in the game thread. This is not two separate games.
  Both halves are either won or lost by

  all members of the faction
  .
  If the mafia make up the majority in one side yet do not have overall majority they don't win; if a side is free of mafia the town on that side does not win.
  
• Similarly, the mafia only gets
  one kill per night
  .
  
• In other words, town wins when all four mafia are dead and not a moment sooner; mafia win when they hold majority of the total town numbers and not a moment sooner. Regardless of how many town/mafia are in light/dark.
  
• Scum have the freedom to choose which side they kill from. I.e., if the town lynches from the
  Light
  , the mafia have the choice of killing nobody, killing from the
  Light
  , or killing from the
  Dark
  .
  
• Obviously, it may arise where one side at the end of a day/night has notably more numbers than the other side (2/3/4/5 more). If one side has
  two/three members more
  , then the other side will cast a majority vote on which player they wish to steal. In the case of a tie, the side with more members will hold a vote between the tied members on who they will lose. If a tie persists, the moderator will do a dice roll to determine the player sent over.
  If one side has
  four/five members more
  , then this same process is simply doubled with two players sent out to equalize the sides.
  
• Mafia Switch Mechanic:
  • At any time the numbers between sides are equal (e.g. 9:9, 8:8, 4:4), once per full phase (day/night), the mafia may switch two currently-living players: one from
    light
    , and one from
    dark
    . (In other words, were numbers equal on all of D1/N1/D2, the mafia may switch during all three times.)
    
  • The mafia may change submitted switches any time before the end of the phase; I will accept the last valid switch submitted at that time.
    
  • This switch will take effect (resolving) at the end of the phase, during the transitional phase (twilight/dawn).
    
  • The switch will happen even if one/both of the players in question are deceased at the time the switch resolves and/or numbers cease to be evenly distributed, as long as both were alive at the time the switch was triggered.
    
  • In the event numbers between
    Light
    and
    Dark
    side cease being equal midway through a phase, the mafia may choose to retract a switch action that was made when numbers were equal between the two sides. The retraction cannot be undone once it is made, as switches cannot be done with uneven distribution. Furthermore, the mafia at this point would be unable to change the switch to something different.
    
  • Inversely, in the event that midway through a phase numbers suddenly
    become
    equal, the mafia may then use their switch.
  
  
• Each scum player, unlike the town players, knows what power they possess even if they start on the dark side. (They simply can't use them while there.)
  • The mafia, however, have received
    full safeclaims
    which hold the exact format of actual town role PMs.
• In addition to possessing a personal power, each mafia player possesses a
  personal factional boon
  , an additional scum power they hold access to while in the
  Light
  .
  
• Light
  /
  Dark
  distribution was entirely randomized. You might have four mafia start in the
  Dark
  , four mafia start in the
  Light
  , three in Dark/Light, or two in each.
  
• Mafia may use ALL of their valid actions at once.
  
• Action Resolution:
  • When dealing with action resolution, I will first check to see if there is a possible conflict. If there's none,
    actions will resolve the obvious way. If there might be potential for conflict, continue down this list.
    
  • My second source for checking action resolution will be
    role PMs as they are written
    . That being, by the exact wording of the roles in question, is there an obvious solution? Please note then the importance of role PM wording! I will use very exact technical resolutions; if there is any room for doubt in your mind, you can and should ask for clarity!
    
  • If there is no obvious solution and still room for ambiguity, then I will next resort to Natural Action Resolution to resolve the conflict.
    
  • Should a conflict
    still
    exist, I will use Reasonable Action Resolution to the best of my knowledge to fill in the gaps. It should be noted this is not my first source (it is a source of last resort), and thus pay attention to the above two first.
    
  • If for some reason that still leaves a conflict, I will resolve things on a case-by-case basis.

[/list]

Bulbazak is so town that everytime someone votes him Mastin coughs blood.
You see this post right here?
Well if you zoom in a bit you'll see this.

Game Mechanics

:

The Light, The Dark

• In addition to possessing a personal power, each mafia player possesses a
  personal factional boon
  , an additional scum power they hold access to while in the
  Light
  .
  
• Mafia may use ALL of their valid actions at once.

Hold on, let me make that bigger for everyone

The Light, The Dark

• In addition to possessing a personal power, each mafia player possesses a
  personal factional boon
  , an additional scum power they hold access to while in the
  Light
  .
  
• Mafia may use ALL of their valid actions at once.

And people are beating up MathBlade when she's trying to bring this up?

HELLO?

MathBlade is so town that everytime someone votes him Mastin coughs blood.

<<< Removing excess quote tag. Might not have been how you meant for it to be, but this is the best I can do. >>>

[Ginngie]

so

you're saying out of all the players, BTD was blocked by scum?

[Ginngie]

to be honest, who the fuck blocks BTD?

[A2]

GOOB JOB
YOU FIGURED IT OUT DIDN'T YOU

[A2]

to be honest, who the fuck blocks BTD?

Scum who has a way to have complete and full control of Light.

[Ginngie]

I have no idea what that means

[A2]

You are dense and you need to think about the bigger picture here.

[Ginngie]

It sounds to me like you're saying scum knows everyone's roles in the game and plan accordingly...

[A2]

Here
let me give you a hint
remember the time MathBlade said there could be a redirector/Bus Driver/Roleblocker/ and a Strongman?
Yeah.
If scum are going out of their way to roleblock BTD
I think they're manipulating the rest of the actions town has.

[A2]

It sounds to me like you're saying scum knows everyone's roles in the game and plan accordingly...

Well
not know
but moreso control and attempt to manipulate most if not all actions in Light.

[Ginngie]

So, I jailkept Snarky, and a strongman surpassed that ability.

Roleblock was hit onto BTD.

That means it's either one scum with the boon or two scum in the light

[Ginngie]

The more the manipulation, the more scum are in the light.

[A2]

Okay well
each scum has their own boon ability.

[79 CE]

@Bulba I haven't sorted the majority of the slots on the board since coming off V/LA. My reads are largely reset but I'm pretty confident Creature, Gin and A2 are town. If you have a solid take on any of Aronis, BTD, texcat, Narna or Rauth I'd like to hear it. I'll be going over my reads there myself when I have time. We have 14 days, I feel pretty good about spending the next 10 days to lock down a decent PoE.

[79 CE]

Add QR to that second list.

[79 CE]

Heading off.