Night and Day Mafia (Game Over)

[MathBlade]

Gotta go but I will catch up more after Betrayal.

[Aronis]

So, really to make it simple, why do you make it clear you town read a player before just discrediting what they are doing?

I feel like this is a legitimate way of doing things. Somebody being town doesn't require them to have good reads.

[Ginngie]

So, really to make it simple, why do you make it clear you town read a player before just discrediting what they are doing?

I feel like this is a legitimate way of doing things. Somebody being town doesn't require them to have good reads.

Well yeah, the legit way would be to work with Bulb going yo, your read is wrong cuz this.

Except, dram didn't do that, he just went, your town, your reads suck, I'm not helping you.

[dramonic]

So, really to make it simple, why do you make it clear you town read a player before just discrediting what they are doing?

I just wasted like 20 minutes trying to find a way to word this politely, but I couldn't so...
Town just means the player is honest, it doesn't mean they're competent.

[Ginngie]

So players like Bulba are not competent?

[dramonic]

My solution is that they'll eventually get shot and we THEN we can get something useful done.
Maybe.
There's a lot of people that need shooting.

EDIT: I believe I used the word "incapable of critical thinking" earlier actually.

[dramonic]

Actually that was in the dark thread.

[A2]

Man if only mafia was that easy.

[dramonic]

Man if only mafia was that easy.

Now now, you don't get to complain when you can just sit around and watch the town mislynch itself. It plays to your wincon.

[Ginngie]

Okay that was savage

[A2]

Man if only mafia was that easy.

Now now, you don't get to complain when you can just sit around and watch the town mislynch itself. It plays to your wincon.

Now now, you don't get to shittalk and shut your townreads down, causing more discord. It plays to your wincon.

[A2]

I mean like
from my PoV
Ginngie has a valid concern

[A2]

Also if I get into a sass war with Dramonic, I think I'll gain 1 or 2 sass points.
I need to work on that anyways.

[dramonic]

You're mistaking shittalking for awareness

[Ginngie]

sassing is the gateway drug into bullying

[A2]

Town just means the player is honest, it doesn't mean they're competent.

So wait
it's acceptable to tell your townreads their shit at mafia and that their reads suck instead of working with them to get better at mafia, essentially demoralizing them and bullying them so that they never want to play mafia ever again?

Dam.
If only I knew, the quality of my play would have gone up

[79 CE]

Haven't seen anything from MathBlade that makes me doubt my read; if they have town meta to support their claim that their meta is changed they should share it - didn't see anything from our time as hydra to make me believe that this could be their towngame.

You mean the hydra I was so busy for a super majority of posts were yours.

You mean every town game since I got my job end of May.

You mean how you say this same meta earlier this game and you called it Town.

You mean how you have no reasoning except how you contradict yourself.

When you actually have a true read it is more "nancy like"

You mentioned that I ought to have a better understanding of how your town meta has changed through our play together as a hydra; I don't believe that I saw significant differences in your play except that you were willing to drop your reads and sheep me when I told you I was sure. Again, if you have games that demonstrate the change, show them to me; you say that you've barely played due to work, yet say that your meta has changed so significantly that your towngame now looks like your scumgame; your argumentation is dissonant. I had a wrong read on you earlier in the game because I wanted to believe you were capable of that change and that desire influenced my read when it shouldn't have; I am no longer able to believe that in spite of my desire to with the increased sample size. I don't believe that you are town and I believe that your continued attempts to discredit my scumread are entirely your MO as scum.

[79 CE]

Gin, I don't think continuing to engage with dramonic is going to be productive; I'd ask that you consider stopping because it is spamming up the thread in an unproductive way and creating noise.

[Titus]

Town just means the player is honest, it doesn't mean they're competent.

So wait
it's acceptable to tell your townreads their shit at mafia and that their reads suck instead of working with them to get better at mafia, essentially demoralizing them and bullying them so that they never want to play mafia ever again?

Dam.
If only I knew, the quality of my play would have gone up

Savage

[dramonic]

Town just means the player is honest, it doesn't mean they're competent.

So wait
it's acceptable to tell your townreads their shit at mafia and that their reads suck instead of working with them to get better at mafia, essentially demoralizing them and bullying them so that they never want to play mafia ever again?

Dam.
If only I knew, the quality of my play would have gone up

You say that like I'd WANT them to play again..

[A2]

Town just means the player is honest, it doesn't mean they're competent.

So wait
it's acceptable to tell your townreads their shit at mafia and that their reads suck instead of working with them to get better at mafia, essentially demoralizing them and bullying them so that they never want to play mafia ever again?

Dam.
If only I knew, the quality of my play would have gone up

You say that like I'd WANT them to play again..

I mean like hey
playing mafia is a mistake

so like
you should get a community service medal for sucessfully getting people to not play mafia

[A2]

Dramonic just wondering,
have you ever heard of a concept such as teamwork?

[79 CE]

Aslan, dramonic is a lost cause.

[dramonic]

I only do that to players who have been here long enough that they shouldn't be this bad still.
I would make a cancer metaphor but it'd be really skimming the line.
Just imagine a metaphor.

[dramonic]

Thanks Nancy, we do have a lot of experience together don't we?