Mini 1927: Breaking Bad Mafia - Game Over

[Wisdom]

Does that change your response to Desp's

no

[Vaxkiller]

bI'm literally CONFIRMED TOWN TO YOU. If i was scum, I'd let you get lynched. how dare you say you need to decide if im town or scum

No because we could have a town role poisoning people. It sounds a little one sided for scum to have 2 killing roles IMO. So I'll cure you if thats waht the consensus wants.

[Robbnva]

Pretty sure there is no town poisoner.

[Vaxkiller]

It's a lot of scum power tho, but looking at our flips so far... your likely right.

[Robbnva]

3 mafia and a sk has been done before.
2 mafia and a sk is also a possibility.

So I don't think it's too much power, especially in a role madness game.

[Vaxkiller]

@wisdom, what do you think?

[Vaxkiller]

Should I heal gerryoat? (@wisdom)

[Almost50]

Can we all just calm down and try to figure things out?

Like, we already lost a Doctor and a JOAT. What does that tell you about the SCUM powers?

Then we have a claim of a Poison Doctor and a supporting claim of someone who got poisoned. I have yet to read pages 16 & 17, but I wanted to point out scum possibly have enough power to counter that, plus the poisoner could very well be an independent 3P

[Almost50]

Should I heal gerryoat? (@wisdom)

You definitely should if only to prove your role

[Almost50]

no, you asked us to explain our votes

Not really. I'm afraid Desp was very specific in asking "why are you

still

voting there?" after he started with "

now that he's claimed poison doc

and marie's flip specifically says she only protects against gunshots" (btw, who is marie? I thought it was vecna we lynched!)

@Wisdom: Sometimes you do confuse me. You said to trust you (I'm paraphrasing) and I do, but some of your pushes and responses don't even make sense. The man clearly asked why you were STILL voting Vax after he claimed Poison Doc and Vecna flipping Doc who ONLY protects from Gunshots. That's a pretty legitimate question to ask IMHO.

Currently I wouldn't even consider lynching in Wisdom, Chicka, Desperado & Vax. I'm also unlikely to vote Robb/Moza.

My preferred lynches are in gerry (getting targeted by a 3P posisoner doesn't clear him and specifically disliked his attempt to conf!Town himself precisely for that reason), or iDanny (I didn't like him yesterday, but let's see what he has to say today). Backhand and Edosurist were town leans yesterday but considering both Vecna and LUV flipped green I'd relegate them both to null but only by PoE.

[Almost50]

even if he is mafia, why not use him to heal people who get poisoned that are town for now?

I don't know you are town.

lolol


if i was mafia with vax. wouldnt i just tell him in mafia chat? or if we dont have day talk, make a code at night that if i'm poisoned i post and he can see?

Another post that I don't like. "if i was mafia with vax." doesn't bode well here. We're assuming EITHER/OR but not BOTH of you are scum, and certainly not on the same team.

[Vaxkiller]

Currently I wouldn't even consider lynching in Wisdom, Chicka, Desperado & Vax. I'm also unlikely to vote Robb/Moza.

Whos left?

[Vaxkiller]

Also you want me to heal gerry, but hes might b scum?

[Almost50]

Desperado, your votes on Dany keep seeming odd. It was odd yesterday and it's odd today. It's kind of making me want to town read you, only because of our (admittedly limited) play history. But not quite enough.

Hey, Chicka .. let's build our own town block, shall we? First, I think we can agree to exclude our own selves from the lynch pool. Then we can remove Vax because his claim makes most sense with how the Vecna flip was worded.

Now we both TR Desp (I think that was a town lean expressed by you on him in the quote) and I'd also remove Wisdom from the lynch pool as I think this is Town!Wisdom despite his weirdness.

I'm not going to hold you to any of your previous day reads as flips must've surely affected some of them, so that leaves us with gerryoat/Robbnva/iDanyBoy/mozamis/Backhand/Edosurist for a theoretical lynch pool (4 of which were on the Vecna wagon and 2 were off it). Over to you.

[Almost50]

Also you want me to heal gerry, but hes might b scum?

I explained it was to prove your own role, but I guess we can do with an extra flip so don't heal him if you don't want to.

As for who was left I did state 2 options in Danny/gerry, so if you're not healing gerry we can lynch Danny today and get gerry's flip tomorrow anyway.

[Vaxkiller]

Almost 50 has to be town, dont see him being this bold as sscum. Still not 100% sure on weather to heal or not tho

[Vaxkiller]

gerryoat/Robbnva/iDanyBoy/mozamis/Backhand/Edosurist

THis is a pretty good lynch pool

[Almost50]

No because we could have a town role poisoning people.

You mean to tell me Town has BOTH the poison AND the cure in their hands? What setup is this? I can arguably accept a Town poisoner (that would be a modified/delayed Town Vig) but that would necessitate you to be scum, don't you think? However, a poisoner is normally of anti-town alignment (more likely to be 3P) in every game that I saw one.

[Almost50]

Pretty sure there is no town poisoner.

Then you have no case against Vax.

[Almost50]

It's a lot of scum power tho, but looking at our flips so far... your likely right.

Exactly. We had a (gun) Doctor, a poison Doctor, a JOAT and -most likely- an alignment Cop (the JOAT didn't have a COP SHOT, which points to there being a Cop elsewhere in the setup). It's probably a 9-3-1 setup from where I see it.

[Vaxkiller]

No because we could have a town role poisoning people.

You mean to tell me Town has BOTH the poison AND the cure in their hands? What setup is this? I can arguably accept a Town poisoner (that would be a modified/delayed Town Vig) but that would necessitate you to be scum, don't you think? However, a poisoner is normally of anti-town alignment (more likely to be 3P) in every game that I saw one.

Its actually pretty good, think of it like 2 lynches for town, where the poisoned is put on trial.

[Almost50]

I've gone back for a quick ISO of Vecna's last posts, and while I believe he was wrong about both Vax and Wisdom I think he might have had a point in the way gerry hammered him before he claimed.

I also had Danny as my preferred lynch yesterday, so I'm voting him again today unless he genuinely manages to change my read on him, and would actually recommend gerry NOT be cured/healed.

[Vaxkiller]

But then scum needs something else, and no one is coming forward (I kinda thought you might have been the poisoner until you made the comment.

[Vaxkiller]

I've gone back for a quick ISO of Vecna's last posts, and while I believe he was wrong about both Vax and Wisdom I think he might have had a point in the way gerry hammered him before he claimed.

I also had Danny as my preferred lynch yesterday, so I'm voting him again today unless he genuinely manages to change my read on him, and would actually recommend gerry NOT be cured/healed.

But this would mean that the poisoner is town.

[Vaxkiller]

If the scum poisoned someone, the likely would not have known there was a poison doc.. (i mean maybe thye would have,but unlikely)