Mini Normal 1923: BooneyToonz IV - Five Weeks in a Boon END

Klazam · Post Post #2625 (ISO) » Mon Jul 24, 2017 3:08 pm

no i did not.

Creative claimed watcher, which did not line up with Gamma and me having roles, and he claimed a terrible target for his watch.

Klazam · Post Post #2626 (ISO) » Mon Jul 24, 2017 3:09 pm

In post 2624, Tchill13 wrote:
In post 2616, Maestro wrote:Klaz. I don't like this shit at all, and this is too "convenient"

I like, don't actually believe you, I guess?
I get the feeling klazam is faking a pr claim. I'd like a hard claim. There was NO reason for him to claim he had an innocent on me. I was no where near danger of a lynch.

Hard claim tomorrow, fine sure. I know you werent in danger of lynch, just thought it'd be benefical to reduce potential wasted time.

Fykus · Post Post #2627 (ISO) » Mon Jul 24, 2017 3:11 pm

I dont want to get into setup spec but there are still potentially 2 prs floating around.

Pedit your wasting time by not giving us a result now. There is literally 0 benefit to withholding. Youre gonna die tonight either way now so narrow down our lynch pool.

PLEASE

Klazam · Post Post #2628 (ISO) » Mon Jul 24, 2017 3:12 pm

It makes zero logicial sense for me to fakeclaim a PR as scum today after what happened to creative the previous day, and why would i fakeclaim an inno on tchill? he was a potential scum, and since hes town, If i was scum, why would i bother to fakeclaim an inno on mislynch.

I just wanted to out the inno on Tchill and move on with the game, this heavy fishing/blowback is a bit silly.

FYKUS YOU KNOW NOTHING, STOP FISHING.

Maestro · Post Post #2629 (ISO) » Mon Jul 24, 2017 3:15 pm

In post 2622, Klazam wrote:taco pposted an anti Tchill post, and i realized that i needed to out it so i did.

No, you really didn't, is the biggest deal here. As Fykus correctly pointed out, there was no fucking reason to come in here and half-heartedly claim an inno on Tchill given the amount of pressure that was (not) building up from Taco's post(s). It's fucking Tacos. And I'm *STILL* fucking voting Tchill, because I don't believe you. At all.

Saying "there's no protown reason to push you to out today" is all well and good

if we believed you

, but I don't. Fucking convince me. Because this is the craziest part about this game, and something you sheeple didn't realize in 1919 - if you don't believe a PR claim, you can't

OPERATE ON THE ASSUMPTION THAT ALL OF THEIR RESULTS ARE TRUE

. I refuse to do that for oyu, because you haven't convincved me or (apparently) Fykus or Tchill himself.

PEDIT: I'm aware Normal games can have roles which push the boundaries of Normality and/or are not in the wiki, and I know Boon's rules explicitly state he was trying to do the former in this game, but I still don't believe there's a role with (a) investigative power, (b) that is somehow conencted to other roles, as Klazam has implied, and (c) somehow can't hardclaim right now since he's already outed himself (unnecessarily) as some kind of PR?

PEDIT: No, you're timing is bad, your tone here is throwing me all kinds of red flags, and given that you were in the pool of potential Scum just like Tchill was it

DOES

make sense that you would lock something down to protect yourself over this and the next Day phase, if you're Scum.

VOTE: Klazam

Maestro · Post Post #2630 (ISO) » Mon Jul 24, 2017 3:16 pm

And at this point, Klaz, you can type in bold all you want but it's not fishing. We are all reacting to your claim, its timing, and the lack of transparency since you made it.

Maestro · Post Post #2631 (ISO) » Mon Jul 24, 2017 3:17 pm

Like, I'm reserving the possibliity that you thought you could fake an inno as like, a VT, to prevent a strongTown read from being pressured, but that's a very distant possibility for you because I think's more on a Mulch-level of stupid, risky play that you wouldnt' have sunk to here

Klazam · Post Post #2632 (ISO) » Mon Jul 24, 2017 3:19 pm

In post 2632, Maestro wrote:Like, I'm reserving the possibliity that you thought you could fake an inno as like, a VT

Never gonna happen

Fykus · Post Post #2633 (ISO) » Mon Jul 24, 2017 3:20 pm

A few potential things here:

-scum klazam is worried about scum pr vecna/tchill getting lynched so does this fake claim to stop it happening

I cant see 2 scum prs in this game though considering they had a role cop

Klazam · Post Post #2634 (ISO) » Mon Jul 24, 2017 3:21 pm

I give up. Gamma, if you tell me to hardclaim i will. This is stupid.

Klazam · Post Post #2635 (ISO) » Mon Jul 24, 2017 3:23 pm

I mean, i have a legit reason not to go in depth about my role. ugh.

Fykus · Post Post #2636 (ISO) » Mon Jul 24, 2017 3:24 pm

Well its on you for half claiming too early

Klazam · Post Post #2637 (ISO) » Mon Jul 24, 2017 3:26 pm

It's not too early. Way i see things, it was perfect time for me to claim, maybe not that moment, but today in general.

Klazam · Post Post #2638 (ISO) » Mon Jul 24, 2017 3:27 pm

Maestro, youre smart, I figured you'd be seeing the angle im taking here, and the fact you dont, it bothers me a lot...

Klazam · Post Post #2639 (ISO) » Mon Jul 24, 2017 3:27 pm

im not Mulch, im not stupid (im not boon either)

Maestro · Post Post #2640 (ISO) » Mon Jul 24, 2017 3:27 pm

@Boonskiies: Not sure how nobody noticed until now, but you've thoroughly borked replacements in the OP.

It should be...

"Perfect Fifth

Vedith Keychain

"
"Vecna

Assemble

"

...Right?

here I am trying to do alook at the claimed role spread and jfc

Maestro · Post Post #2641 (ISO) » Mon Jul 24, 2017 3:28 pm

In post 2639, Klazam wrote:Maestro, youre smart, I figured you'd be seeing the angle im taking here, and the fact you dont, it bothers me a lot...

I don't see the angle because there's no angle that makes sense to me.

Maestro · Post Post #2642 (ISO) » Mon Jul 24, 2017 3:28 pm

You know I go with mindsets, and this mindset makes no sense, especially coming from you at this opint in the game.

Klazam · Post Post #2643 (ISO) » Mon Jul 24, 2017 3:31 pm

Sigh. oh well. I really wish i could explain, because it makes perfect sense to me.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #2644 (ISO) » Mon Jul 24, 2017 3:39 pm

I have an idea of what's going on, leave Klazam until Day 4

Tchill13 · Post Post #2645 (ISO) » Mon Jul 24, 2017 3:42 pm

In post 2645, Gamma Emerald wrote:I have an idea of what's going on, leave Klazam until Day 4

So we're still at vecna or fykus?

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #2646 (ISO) » Mon Jul 24, 2017 3:42 pm

In post 2646, Tchill13 wrote:
In post 2645, Gamma Emerald wrote:I have an idea of what's going on, leave Klazam until Day 4
So we're still at vecna or fykus?

Yep.

Maestro · Post Post #2647 (ISO) » Mon Jul 24, 2017 3:49 pm

In post 2644, Klazam wrote:Sigh. oh well. I really wish i could explain, because it makes perfect sense to me.

Is there any reference to somerthing only I qwould get, or any indication you can give me of where to look to feel like I can trust you?

Tchill13 · Post Post #2648 (ISO) » Mon Jul 24, 2017 3:52 pm

Maestro what do you think about vecna or fykus? You think this is the right direction?

Klazam · Post Post #2649 (ISO) » Mon Jul 24, 2017 3:56 pm

Hm. No to the first part, i cant think of anything. To the second, you seriously think i would fakeclaim in that particular position? I have reason for what i do. I did crumb my having a PR early on, look at how my play was different, consider why that is- i have a PR. Would i want to stand out this much if i was scum? These are the things running through my mind now, but i know that shit probably dont help. or were you asking me to point to a earlier post of mine? if that, i dont even know.