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[Fykus]

And we arent lynching vedith slot today so put your vote on maestro

[Klazam]

People thinking that 2 scum PR's in a setup with 2 town PR's that can get guilties is too much have no clue about setup design, sorry to burst your bubble.

13 players, 2 town PR's taht can inno people. Play it correctl and you have 4 clears on day2 and a combination of 6 guilties/inno's on day3 if you get lucky. Thats already auto right there.

And fykus, I didnt ignore your case on Maestro, I stated youre scumreading him for the wrong reasons since im town. Ive already stated I feel he's part of my potential scumpool of 3, of which i Prefer to lynch Vedith slot most of all and its a toss-up between you and Maestro if I cannot have my lynch on that slot.

A rolecop for scum vs 4 town prs makes sense. A rb on top of that would mean scum would be too overpowered.

We have 3 not 4

[Maestro]

Why do ppl keep assuming scum have an RB? did I miss something?

[Fykus]

People thinking that 2 scum PR's in a setup with 2 town PR's that can get guilties is too much have no clue about setup design, sorry to burst your bubble.

13 players, 2 town PR's taht can inno people. Play it correctl and you have 4 clears on day2 and a combination of 6 guilties/inno's on day3 if you get lucky. Thats already auto right there.

And fykus, I didnt ignore your case on Maestro, I stated youre scumreading him for the wrong reasons since im town. Ive already stated I feel he's part of my potential scumpool of 3, of which i Prefer to lynch Vedith slot most of all and its a toss-up between you and Maestro if I cannot have my lynch on that slot.

A rolecop for scum vs 4 town prs makes sense. A rb on top of that would mean scum would be too overpowered.

We have 3 not 4

I was under the assumption you wouldnt reveal your result because itll out the last pr

[Klazam]

Why do you feel the need to say anything there? With this comment, I am neither confirming or denying anything here.

[Tchill13]

To me that points more towards a Town JK or something available as a counter, especially with Klaz's MyStErY RoLe in the setup

Like, think about this from a design perspective

As a Mod, do I add negative utility to the Town or give the Scum faction more power? Almost always the former, if I'm trying to make a funky setup, because a powerful Scumteam is a huge threat to balance, more-so than having a role that's a little bit less effective because of some negative utility on Town's side that interferes with it being used to its fullest potential.

That, and DeasVail's flip was most likely meant to explain any past false positives but Geralt claimed D1, correct? Meaning we can assume he died for Gamma.

Alright maestro I'm not very familiar or comfortable with setup discussion. There's a lot I still don't know when it comes to that. You've convinced me that there's probably not a scum role blocker though. Your talk about adding a negative utility or give the scum faction more power is what did it if I'm being precise.

[Tchill13]

Fykus the main reason you're scum right now, to me, is how in detail you danced around your creative vote. That gives me more credibility to vote you over anything on anyone else at this moment.

[Tchill13]

Why do you feel the need to say anything there? With this comment, I am neither confirming or denying anything here.

Only reason I haven't pushed klazam more is because gamma said he thinks he knows and told klazam not to out anything and I trust gamma more than absolutely anybody atm.

[Titus]

Vote Count 1.07

Tchill13 [3]:

Mulch, Assemblerotws, Creative

Klazam [3]:

Keyser Söze, DeasVail, Sergtacos

Mulch [1]:

: Fykus

Fykus [1]:

Klazam

Sergtacos [1]:

stay away I have a gf

Not Voting [4]:

Maestro, Keychain, Geralt of Rivia, Tchill13,

With

13

alive, it takes

7

to lynch.

Deadline ends in (expired on 2017-07-11 13:30:00) on

July 9th.

Mod Notes:

Unless there's a good reason not to, this VC suggests voting the fuck out of Klazam. 2 nked townies, scum on the counterwagon.

Vote Count 1.16

Fykus [4]:

Klazam, Keyser Söze, Tchill13, Creative,

Mulch [4]:

DeasVail, Fykus, Sergtacos, Vedith,

Vedith [1]:

Stay away i have a gf,

Creative [1]:

Mulch

Keyser Söze [1]:

Vecna

Not Voting [2]:

Maestro, Gamma Emerald,

With

13

alive, it takes

7

to lynch.

Deadline ends in (expired on 2017-07-11 13:30:00) on

July 9th.

Mod Notes:

Ok I need to read here for context but Creative voting Mulch's CW while Mulch is the only player voting him is weird. I expect the Mulch wagon to have scum.

Vote Count 2.05

Tchill13 [3]:

Maestro, Klazam, Sergtacos

Creative [3]:

Vedith, Gamma Emerald, Fykus

Vedith [2]:

Vecna, DeasVail

Sergtacos [1]:

Creative

Klazam [1]:

Titus,

Maestro [1]:

Tchill13

Not Voting [0]:

With

11

alive, it takes

6

to lynch.

Deadline ends in (expired on 2017-07-25 13:30:00) on

July 25th.

Mod Notes:

To all you wondering, because I know it's been implied and brought up, don't worry. I have watched the GoT episode late last night.

Everyone voting the top two wagons minus Klazam looks townier here.


That's what a brief skim tells me. Need another day to really get more.

VOTE: Klazam

[Fykus]

Fykus the main reason you're scum right now, to me, is how in detail you danced around your creative vote. That gives me more credibility to vote you over anything on anyone else at this moment.

I unvoted when he claimed watcher only to vote him again a few minutes later to apply pressure after he wouldnt answer why he chose his target. I hardly call that dancing around

[Fykus]

Titus, i dont mean to alarm you but klazam has claimed a pr role and has cleared tchill of being scum. I look forward to what you come up with given more time

[Titus]

Titus, i dont mean to alarm you but klazam has claimed a pr role and has cleared tchill of being scum. I look forward to what you come up with given more time

My VCA doesn't care about that.

[Gamma Emerald]

Your voting should though

[Titus]

Then why weren't you or him shot or roleblocked? Hmph?

[Klazam]

I only claimed today, and Gamma WAS shot, but got bodyguarded by deasvail (that's the assumption here)

[Klazam]

considering this- what if scum actually does have a roleblocker, and they just got extremely unlucky N1 with Gamma's correct targeting of Creative, then they tried to kill Gamma so he couldnt get lucky again? Thats a possiblity here lol

[Titus]

I only claimed today, and Gamma WAS shot, but got bodyguarded by deasvail (that's the assumption here)

Why didn't you CC Gamma?

[Klazam]

Because we're probably not the same role, duh?

[Klazam]

I dont mean to be mean here, but Titus, have you even been reading?

[Titus]

Not really. Nope.

[Klazam]

Okay. Not sure what to say to you then.

[Titus]

How about if Gamma can clear people and you can clear people why you didn't feel that close enough to necessitate a CC?

[Klazam]

This post, then the subsquent posts and replace out of Geralt, Gamma's predecessor, is largely why Gamma's claim has gone unquestioned (mostly). I personally see no scum motivation behind Geralt's actions/replace out. viewtopic.php?p=9385662#p9385662

Theres no reason for me to doubt Gamma's claim, really. Creative's fakeclaim was made under very different situation, and claimed an atrocious choice of target, which is why i doubted that claim.

As for my claim, its new.

does that clear up the power role claims and things for you?

PEDIT: lol read above.

[Fykus]

Klazs role isnt a straight out guilty or innocent role so he wouldnt be able to cc gammas claim.

[Fykus]

Klaz theres no way in hell scum have another pr. Even though i think maestro is scum i agree with him that town prob have a jk