Mini 1930: Titus's Old Music Playlist Mafia

[Drixx]

And now that you know, you still claim that there was nothing original in the Keychain head of P&T's entrance post. I don't recall much or even really ANY discussion of Famethyst objecting to being scumread for NAI reasons, which is one of the main points that was addressed in that post. And

nobody

had taken the time to actually think about MBC's posts and recognize the cognitive dissonance on display.

Your entire case rests on the premise that P&T's Keychain head made a first post that had nothing original and was just recycling stuff we already talked about. That simply isn't the case. You also didn't even bother to spend much time thinking about what mindset produces the posts in the P&T ISO, and your response to me pointing it out is to try and handwave it away as "tiresome".

Mind you ... this "case" of yours was so strong in your mind that you presented the idea that P&T are the obvious lynch for today, based upon a case which wasn't accurate and demonstrated no actual analysis of motive or mindset by you. YOU are the one who is making lazy posts, especially with your wise ass snark and nit picking to avoid owning up to your shit play.

[ButFearItself]

And now that you know, you still claim that there was nothing original in the Keychain head of P&T's entrance post. I don't recall much or even really ANY discussion of Famethyst objecting to being scumread for NAI reasons, which is one of the main points that was addressed in that post. And

nobody

had taken the time to actually think about MBC's posts and recognize the cognitive dissonance on display.

Your entire case rests on the premise that P&T's Keychain head made a first post that had nothing original and was just recycling stuff we already talked about. That simply isn't the case. You also didn't even bother to spend much time thinking about what mindset produces the posts in the P&T ISO, and your response to me pointing it out is to try and handwave it away as "tiresome".

Mind you ... this "case" of yours was so strong in your mind that you presented the idea that P&T are the obvious lynch for today, based upon a case which wasn't accurate and demonstrated no actual analysis of motive or mindset by you. YOU are the one who is making lazy posts, especially with your wise ass snark and nit picking to avoid owning up to your shit play.

Oof, someone got angry from all that tunneling. Lots of swearing. What the kids call triggered these days. I guess I'll have to dig back and find the posts to show that it was recycled for you.

I like that your natural assumption of Dunn's "naked vote" after my post wasn't the natural intuitive logic that he did it because he agreed with my accurate reasoning (which didn't need references for people who started reading before your claim page 10, which is why no one except you has questioned it in my opinion since we have had thorough references to MBC and DD so far), but instead because we had concocted a ruse in scum daytalk. Fascinating stuff.

[ButFearItself]

PS, lunch break is over and I don't have time to dig through 400 posts immediately. I'll get to it tonight in a few hours.

I really do love the idea that my immediate reaction gamestart was to bus my scumbuddy for no reason, for him to bus me, and then for me to make a case and him to blindly agree to it right after. AND that we came up with it in a scum daytalk.

I'll confess that I'm more in love with the idea of if Drixx and I flipped scumbuddies after this past page's interactions. Mmm, it's really tasty.

[Drixx]

You should read all of my posts in monotone. I generally don't employ emotion in mafia. I can point you to an example of one of the few times I have done so if you really want. It actually involves our game mod, and it's one of the very few times I've actually gotten emotionally invested in mafia. You can believe me or not, but if you want to read me, you would do well to believe me. Emotion (especially negative) doesn't help in mafia. I can call your play shit without disliking you; it's simply my analysis of what you have spilled into the thread so far: shit.

My claim came at the very end of page #5. And since some of the posts in question came after that, it seems unlikely that I somehow missed a substantive discussion of them.

And before you tire yourself out trying to find some isolated mention that I missed: you seem to have missed the point. I'm not arguing there was no talk whatsoever. I'm saying that we did not have an actual discussion about it with even a plurality of the game weighing in. The fact that Famethyst is objecting to being scumread for posts which are NAI is actually a really cogent point, and I am fairly certain nobody went in depth about that before, or else there would have been a Famethyst wagon. Scum tend to be way more defensive about being scumread for the "wrong" reasons than town. That's actual analysis.

As for MBT, I do not actually recall anyone pointing out there was cognitive dissonance and that MBT was basically talking out of both sides of his mouth.

As always; I am not infallible. If there was substantive discussion of these things which I somehow missed, I want to read what people had to say. Especially if P&T was really just taking the idea of another and presenting it as his own ... I want to know who originally did the thinking about things that I'm currently giving P&T credit for in my notes.

[Drixx]

PS, lunch break is over and I don't have time to dig through 400 posts immediately. I'll get to it tonight in a few hours.

I really do love the idea that my immediate reaction gamestart was to bus my scumbuddy for no reason, for him to bus me, and then for me to make a case and him to blindly agree to it right after. AND that we came up with it in a scum daytalk.

I'll confess that I'm more in love with the idea of if Drixx and I flipped scumbuddies after this past page's interactions. Mmm, it's really tasty.

You admitted that you were a long time player who was returning after a time away. Partners voting one another early and doing soft pushes to distance is commonplace in the current meta.

[Zachstralkita]

"You should read all of my posts in monotone"






Yeah "your wise ass snark and shit play" sounds great in monotone

[ButFearItself]

"You should read all of my posts in monotone"






Yeah "your wise ass snark and shit play" sounds great in monotone

Plus all the pricks I have from "the cactus up my ass". Phew. I'll do my best to read that in monotone in the future, thanks for the heads up!

I love the "my analysis is real analysis" comments too. Holier than thou.

[Penn and Teller]

Drixx I was basing fondness on my own personal experience in the newbie queu. Despite you being scum I tend to look on anybody who was involved in a game with me especially the newbie queue with a certain fondness. I still standby that your interactions with DD seemed like buddying.

[Dunnstral]

Partners voting one another early and doing soft pushes to distance is commonplace in the current meta.

Shut up, this isn't a game where people follow meta

[Aristophanes]

Partners voting one another early and doing soft pushes to distance is commonplace in the current meta.

Shut up, this isn't a game where people follow meta

[Zachstralkita]

Is that all you have to say after your catch up Ari? LMAO

[MariaR]

Me with this game atm

[Zachstralkita]

Me with this game atm

I've got your six

[Dunkerdoodles]

Drixx can I ask you something. In the newbie game I recall town saying that you aren't posting a lot for an IC and you responded with something like "I am generally better on the later it goes and I tend to post more as the game goes on", however this game you seem to be contributing a lot more d1 and just doing a lot more than you did in the newbie game. I'm not nessaceraly saying it's scummy I'm juts wondering my that is.

[Aristophanes]

Is that all you have to say after your catch up Ari? LMAO

Hahaha Nah man, I'm doing the catchup now

Sometimes I just see a gem and have to respond

[Aristophanes]

I wonder when Boon is gonna come out and actually play!

His silence saddens me.

yesterday was a buddy's birthday; now I have borderline alcohol poisoning, so I'm kind of not going to be doing much today. If that explains some silence. I'll make a grand entrance eventually.

Oh god, I hope you're feeling better man! You have to take care of yourself!!!

A lurky Giga is a scummy Giga

I agree with this. I mean, just look at Mountainish! That was an amazing show from Town Giga! Do you think it is early enough to make this call though?

Also, probably my last post for the day because this is making me nauseasous, but go look at Mini 1919? I believe. ThinkBig's game, Tchill/Fykus were scum, but anyways, it's very common for me not to participate early in game, and it shows that there. I actively hate early game.

Awk meta defense by referencing other games is awkward.

Do you think the SelfMeta was awkward and Scummy, awkward and Towny, or awkward and NAI?

[Aristophanes]

meh, i reread ari's iso and whatever bad feelings i had are gone

slot's mostly null atm

pedit: dont expect much happening from sitting on your hands and doing nothing then - if you don't like him then you should vote him with me

I really like this post for town Giga! Yay!!

I'd rather lynch Zach.

sure

VOTE: zach

why's dunkerdoodles lynchbait town and not lynchbait scum?

However, a Zach lynch suggestion sucks. Robb, why Zach? Giga, why sheep this??
I really like his earlygame posts!

[Drixx]

Drixx can I ask you something. In the newbie game I recall town saying that you aren't posting a lot for an IC and you responded with something like "I am generally better on the later it goes and I tend to post more as the game goes on", however this game you seem to be contributing a lot more d1 and just doing a lot more than you did in the newbie game. I'm not nessaceraly saying it's scummy I'm juts wondering my that is.

I am always a more aggressive player outside of the newbie queue. I tone myself down there and also experiment with my game.

I'm glad some of you have a sense of humour. I was starting to wonder.

[Aristophanes]

UNVOTE:

Would anybody mind if I just led the lynch for today and everyone followed?

I mean, you're probably town so this isn't horrible.
But I can't promise I'll blindly sheep. Sorry!

if there is a me lynch today is also a terrible idea so? not rosenberg tier bad but still

I agree you're a bad lynch, at least for D1.

There is a serial killer

What makes you think this?

but i really dont see the point here - this isnt mountainish mafia and i dont see the point of making it like it

You three (4? I think Maria is in this too) speaking in code makes this game very hard to follow. I feel lost when I read your posts.

No like there was actually setup information that there is a serial killer that has special effects vs people with too many/too little posts

Oh, I missed this. Let me look back!

This is done through a serial killer that gets additional abilities if town or scum spam or lurk. They get punished if they are the culprit.

Wow, I missed this entirely
So probably 3v9v1. Good to know!

[Dunnstral]

Do you think it is early enough to make this call though?

No they said they had issues so

[Aristophanes]

Do you think it is early enough to make this call though?

No they said they had issues so

Cool! I am honestly not disliking them from my readthrough, as I noted.

[Aristophanes]

Ohey! Wake is here!!
I'd forgotten he was in this game

Serial killer talk made me go back and read OP.

1. Players may use a nightkill and any individual ability they have.

@Mod/Players: Doesn't this wording seem to imply that any player with a night PR also has a NK? I could use clarity on what that is trying to imply.

Just reread it with a different inflection. OBV meant that a player with a NK and a PR can use both. Sorry for the confusion.

If I didn't already read you as town I'd read this as a faked town slip. The tone of your post is weird. But I'll overlook it for now.

Drixx/Boonskiies/Aristophanes, any of you currently OK with lynching Dunkerdoodles today?

I would not oppose it at all!

but he's literally asking scum to kill him and town can't do anything about it...

Because he doesn't wan't town to waste their actions...

but even if town did use their action on him it wouldn't be wasted because he'd be dead...

Only if he gets targeted!

With his claim, he may be left alive as Wine and he has let Protectives know to go elsewhere, raising their chances of succeeding!

We're obviously at a theory difference here so how about we move on.

What is the point in voting for someone you are positive will be tonight's target?

I can see that. Can he still be investigated? You can understand why I'm still wary, do you?

It appears as if he can still be investigated, and that might be the better route. But I still think a lynch on him at this point is stupid and that he's probably not going to die tn.

I totally get being wary of the slot, but I'm willing to give a townpass for the moment. If you're not, that's cool. I implore you to pressure him! I just think he's a bad lynch

[Aristophanes]

I like Wake for town

Wake it feels like you ask dead end questions that you don't ever really use

I mean, this is one way to look at it, but I think he looks like he is trying to make people think and rethink their posts, which is towny. He may not use the info, but the players he asks will. This is positive IMO.

Something with Aristotle makes me wonder.

Then I am doing a great job as a Philosopher! XD

Fear seems to have a few votes from Dunn and Wake who I townread, but I forget Fear is here most of the time already. I'll look at them later.

Side note: holy shit we're posting a lot for a mini, lol.

Not with current Site Meta. This is a slow game in comparison to many!

This game feels slow

You beat me to it! XD

I was going to say that like Robb, DD shouldn't be Scumread for meta.

...who's scumreading DD for meta?

my meta

is

being scumread

So you're lynchbait?
I get that. This was me for probably my first year of playing, if not more!

This doesn't mean you should just accept it though. Fight back! Give us a reason to townread you!

[Wake1]

I'm not convinced DD is a good lynch today.

[Aristophanes]

DunkerDoodles is new and makes new player mistakes. Anyone who doesn't admit they were the same at first is a liar.

Lol I should read on before posting I agree with this, but I also think he needs to make sure he changes this! It's not easy and takes work, but if he sits back and accepts being lynchbait he won't have fun at all!

I'm not even going to waste my time arguing with anyone who thinks I'm scum

Like I really don't care what y'all think about me.

i don't like this post. i don't know what it's called, but i know it's a common scum tactic where instead of reponding to scumreads and cases on you, you just dismiss it like "you're case is stupid" or "you have no reason to scumread me" or something like that.
i also don't like how he doesn't seem to have any solid scum or townreads, but still has opinions on who to lynch when people ask him.
robb is my top scumread atm, the only thing is i think he softed but im not sure.
i also didn't like dunn's entrance, but he hasn't really done anything else scummy so idk.

i also agree that boon feels off, but i guess it's irl stuff so it's NAI i guess.

wake feels really townie

Dunkerdoodles, that's Robb's meta.

He plays like that.

Don't push him on how he plays.

ok sorry, i haven't played with him before so i didn't know his meta. sorry

Don't you dare cow to anyone. Nobody has the right to tell you that you can't form your own opinions. This is an especially stupid case where people are talking about the STYLE of someone's posts. FFS, I always post in the same free flowing train of thought style, no matter what. Should I always be read a certain alignment because of that? Of course not.

Complete silliness that anyone is even pushing that tripe, and you need to stand up for yourself.

This post is dumb. Support him, but if there is unknown meta he should either accept it or investigate it. Saying "just do you" when in this situation doesn't help him at all!

Sure, he can form his own reads, but he also has to learn from and accept the reads of others!