Mini 555 --- LDF Mafia -- Game Over!

[SlySly]

/confirm

Reporting for duty.

[SlySly]

What about Asshats?

Everytime I have tried to wear one, it has fallen off. Maybe I should use some safety pins.

[SlySly]

vote: MBF

[SlySly]

Quick, someone say something stupid we all can attack on it.

Look no further than post 66 to satisfy your search.

It seems MBF feels he should not be held accountable for his actions and should not have to explain himself. That is very suspicious if you ask me.

[SlySly]

Interesting? Maybe.

Alarming? Not at all.

[SlySly]

It seems MBF feels he should not be held accountable for his actions and should not have to explain himself. That is very suspicious if you ask me.

I remember that ryan, Lloyd and ooba didn't give a reason for their first vote, yet you focus only on MBF (For a L-5 vote? O_o)

Did ryan, Lloyd and ooba state that they didn't feel the need to explain their vote when someone asked them to?

[SlySly]

I agree with SlySly. My actions are very suspicious, and are lynch-worthy.

unvote ryan, vote: Mikeburnfire

I normally have a strict policy against self-voting, but SlySly's argument was too convincing. Die scum die!

It's good to see you being reasonable for a change.

[SlySly]

I have no true suspicion of MBF in this game so far.

MBF and I are in another active game at the moment and I am sure he understands the reasoning behind my post in this game as do I his. It is all based in smartassery.

We have been battling between each other in the other game for weeks now and I was kind of making a joke/random vote with my vote against him here. I don't have a bias towards him from the other game and to prove such, I will now...

unvote

... and I will start actually searching for scumminess as it appears that the random stage is nearing an end here.

[SlySly]

It seems like you two are discussing the semantic differences of giving a reason, versus feeling the need to explain. I don't see how the semantic differences matter.

Anyhow, to summarize my votes:
- I didn't give a reason for my first vote (it was for Bob)
- I already explained my second vote (it was for ryan) of wanting to put someone at three votes

You are correct, the semantics don't matter. I was really just explaining my vote in rhetorical fashion. I wasn't fishing for vote explanations. I usually don't put much stock into random votes.

[SlySly]

MBF, I really think you should rethink your vote on Mike. Mike is a good guy and always plays very reasonably. I think you may have been misguided by Mike's sneaky phrasing.

[SlySly]

Maybe MBF is just a newb

X

FOS:MBF

for the possible use of color coded messages of scummery.

[SlySly]

Not even close, that's a sign to say "no you're totally wrong about that."

FoS: SlySly

for one of the stupidest FoS uses I've ever seen. Why are you FoSing him for no good reason?

A little hostile over an FOS, wouldn't you say?

So now you are in MBF's head and know what he is thinking and therefore answering for him? Answering for others is very scummy and could be taken as defense of a scum buddy.

Sorry you think my reasoning is stupid. You don't have the advantage of being in a recent conversation that I was part of that dealt with the topic of scum using color coded messages.

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MBF, I am glad to see your style of play is consistent from game to game. Is this little drama you are putting on now more of your cop planting/fake claim setup that you mentioned in #93 or are you just perpetuating your baffoonery for my benefit?

It sure seems to me that you are purposely going out of your way to appear scummy. Are you, as I suspect, just trying to bait me into discussion about the stupidity of your actions in this game so you can respond with, "Sly, you idiot, isn't it obvious that I was joking?" It seems in #150 that you are already leaning that way. If this is the case, why don't you start trying to play THIS game now and leave our discussions and biases from the other game in the other game? It would only be fair to the others to do so.

Also, how am I trying to avoid discussion?

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Korts and Andy, MBF is not a newb.

[SlySly]

Ereh? YOURE the one who keeps bringing up Alcoholics. I have not ONCE mentioned it in this game.

Also, stop fishing for my role.

You are the one who brought cop plant/fake claim up in the first place, not me, and I never called the other game out by name.

If your stupidity in this game has nothing to do with bias from the other game, my vote will soon return to you.

[SlySly]

My "stupidity" as you call it has nothing to do with that other game. You may not have referred to it by name, but we both know which one you are talking about.

In that case.

vote:MBF

You have already displayed plenty of scuminess in this game that has already been pointed out.

FOS:Cow

for defending MBF.

[SlySly]

You've got to be joking me, Sly. You call that a defense?

I sure do.

Why do FOS's hit your G-spot so hard? Everyone else seems to be able to take them in stride.

[SlySly]

Wow, did the Great Overlord dose us all with rohypnol? That was a damn long 36 hours!!

It turns out that lovo was right about scum being on his wagon. I think there may have been more than one scum on that wagon.

FOS: ooba

for being lovo's hammer without any stated reason.

[SlySly]

Forgive me Great Overlord, I have confused another mod's word with yours. The 36 hours announcement came in another game I am playing in.

Let me rephrase my statement....

Wow, did the Great Overlord dose us all with rohypnol? I thought the night would never end!!

[SlySly]

Well, that is why I try to steer clear of the meta game. Roles are different each game, so play style could be totally different in each game. I do think that lovo's defense was very weak.

As far as #2 goes, it is pretty scummy to need to be lead to a vote. UA's persistence in lynching lovo seemed fishy to me in day 1. Now it seems a wee bit scummy.

IGMEOY: UA

[SlySly]

I think UA's play isn't that scummy. Lovo's reactions and to some extent his claim justified his lynch.

Defending UA? This is kind of scummy.

[SlySly]

Also, Sly, why do you call defending UA scummy? Is everyone who defends UA scummy?

From what I have seen in the games I have played, there are only 2 reasons a player would be defending another player and neither are good for the town IMO.

1. The player doing the defending is the scum buddy of the defendee.
2. The player doing the defending is in the same cult as the defendee.

UA was awfully bullheaded in his stance against lovo in Day 1. Does anyone else find it interesting that UA has yet to post in Day 2?

[SlySly]

UA, though I am not perfect, I try to never defend other players as some read defense of others as a scumtell. Are you trying to breed confusion for the town?

[SlySly]

UA, though I am not perfect, I try to never defend other players as some read defense of others as a scumtell. Are you trying to breed confusion for the town?

I don't think so, because actually I agree with him.

If you think someone else's thoughts are correct or that his play is good, you try to use your logic to defend a possible innocent.

Answering questions directly addressed to another person is very scummy, IMO.

[SlySly]

Sly, I really do not understand your actions today. You are saying that everything the players are doing is a scumtell, like defending or stepping in to answer questions. Is Andy scum because he "defends" UA (i use defend lightly, more of an agree) or because he answered something adressed to UA?

Saying something is scummy is NOT saying someone IS scum, it is merely saying that I think their pointed out actions are scummy, IMO.

I clearly stated what I thought was scummy about Andy's action.

[SlySly]

I'm perfect and I expect you to play by my standards

Good for you.

I did not say this. Misquoting someone is definitely scummy!!!

vote: UltimaAvalon

[SlySly]

Sly's scumradar is a little bit sensitive today, isn't it? I'd prefer you t biuld an actual case on someone rather than simply vote at the first sign of "scuminess"

FoS: SlySly

Where the hell is hasdgfas?

In Vermont, duh.

I have been suspicious of UA since day 1 and have already pointed out the reasons why. As far as my scumdar sensitivity goes, I have not been throwing around votes. Misquoting people is anti-town and is more than enough reason to vote for someone.

Your OMGUS FoS seems to be another defense of UA from you. I'm getting the feeling that you two may be scum buddies.

[SlySly]

I am sorry to say he was making fun of you.

Well, I am sorry to say, I am past the sarcasm of day 1 randomness.

[SlySly]

That was not sarcasm. You obviously did not get that comment.

If you are referring to the misquoting of me, I don't care if it was a joke or not. Misquoting is a scum action. If ye partake in the practices of scum, you will be seen as such.

If you were not referring to the misquote, I did miss it. Please enlighten me.

[SlySly]

SlySly, let me ask you a question.

Whats your opinion on lurkers?

They suck because they do not contribute.

Some lurkers are scum and some lurkers are town.

From the games I have played recently, I have seen a trend where people are giving lurkers a free pass. Some scum have picked up on this and use it to their advantage and don't post for several days as to not draw attention to themselves while the town fight over the scumminess of a fellow townie.

I also know that some lurkers are busy in other games and are not really lurking at all. They are just failing to contribute in an already stalling game because they are more committed to their active game(s).

Also, some townies 'lurk' as to not draw attention to themselves to avoid getting mislynched just because they are active. Some idiots, I won't point out any names, JDodge, mistake activity as scumminess. Feel free to meta the games I have been a part of and see how many times I have been mislynched because I was active while the scum lurked and enjoyed the show.

[SlySly]

In the above scenario, what do you believe Player C should do?

What Player C 'should' do is not for me to determine, but there are many options that Player C could do. It would really depend on the situation and there are too many variable for one blanket answer.

1. Player C could go overboard with his agreeing with Player A running the risk of appearing to defend Player A.
2. Player C could lightly share his opinion that what Player A had stated was an opinion that he shared with Player A while pointing out other actions of Player C that were definitely scummy.
3. Player C could do nothing and theoretically let the game stall.
4. Player C could comment on something else.

There are still

very many

other options Player C could do, but these are the obvious ones that came to my mind immediately. Player C is in no way obligated to comment on every post in the game.

Now, lay something out for me, UA. Please share with the rest of us the time(s) where you think that it is pro-town to misquote another player.

[SlySly]

eljcko, Fuck You!

[SlySly]

^^^ That was much needed ^^^

That it was, asshole.

[SlySly]

Jdogde, fuck you, too, asshole.

Put your vote on me. I don't really give a shit, fucker.

[SlySly]

Game Rules:

0. This is more than a game. Fun is not as important as winning. If things get personal, it’s your job to make them even more personal.

Read the rules.

Shut the fuck up, UA. You are just pissed cause I know you are scum and have my vote on you.

[SlySly]

And so thus you brush of my accusations of you as being because you are "active".

No, you are so full of shit that you are easy to overlook.

I'll point out some of your bs now and why it is so easy to not really pay much attention to you...

Still not playing anywhere near seriously on page 3. This is going to be a great read.

Right out of the gate, an insinuation that everyone in this game is a dumbass.

SlySly overreacts to MBF's lack of reasoning. Interesting.

No overreaction, you just don't know the history.

SlySly's 112 is some of the best backpedaling I've seen in ages.

See above statement in reference to history. Is there any argument from anyone that MBF was purposely being an idiot? Do a little meta if you must know more.

SlySly goes out of his way to attack UA pointlessly.

My attack was not pointless. UA was bullheaded in getting a townie killed and I think his approach was mighty scummy.

[SlySly]

Oh Benevolent and Just Admiral Stukov:

Please replace or modkill SlySly. His sudden and rash actions are detrimental to t
Ihe well-being and overall playability of the game and its players

I second this motion.

Way to support your scum buddy!!!

[SlySly]

My Analysis..

Town
~~~~
Korts
UA
Andy

Neutral
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Jdodge
Thanatos
eljcko
Llyod

Scum
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SlySly

Your analysis is not very good. Not very good at all, but it does seem in line with what has happened so far in this game.

Unfortunately, I wasted my investigatory skill on MBF last night, who turned up town and dead. Take this however you want to as I will not elaborate.

I guess his idiotic play was misinterpretted as scum. That seems to be a fairly common occurence. Act like a fool as town and be mistaken as scum.

UA, if it is not pro-town, it is anti-town.

Jdodge and ooba, sorry you don't like the

fact

that meta is a part of this game. I never meta anyone, but I know others do. I am very often misinterpretted, meta me and see for yourself.

ooba, you vote surprises me not seeing how I called you out for being the scum hammer on the lovo townie train. Don't try to tell me how to play. If I wanna act like lovo, I will. Lovo was town, if you don't remember, so don't get all "you are acting like lovo so you must be scum" or I will have to respond with "your scum finding skills were shit when you hammered lovo just like they are shit with you accusing me of being scum."

Here is a fact that some need to realize, someone being an asshole does not make them scum.

[SlySly]

Very true, that is why some people are voting for you.

I count 1.

The last point is good, but being a jerk never helps your cause.

You may not understand my cause.

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I'm sorry that you don't like the fact that I find you somewhat scummy.

I think Sly is an idiot, not scum.

You need to make up your mind. At least I am consistent.

MBF was purposely voting himself in what seemed to me like a rather interesting and helpful move.

In reference to this quote, interesting is questionable but as far as MBF's vote on himself being helpful, I think you put it best when you said...

What helpful comments did it add? What useful info did we get from it? We got nothing. At all.

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It's fine you have history but i think you just used that here to get out of a tight corner for trying to start a wagon on MBF

I think you are imagining a tight corner.

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First, his only suspect is slysly, who has taken quite some flak the last couple pages, and is the most voted person of the month.

Am I missing something? I have only seen one vote on me the entire game.

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Jdodge: I like how, of your two counterarguements, the first basicly goes out of it's way to say NOTHING

QFT

[SlySly]

Oh, btw, happy scumday, UA. Quite fitting you reached it while being scum in this game!!

[SlySly]

Lurkfest!

[SlySly]

But since you're here, suspicions of you are not necessarily expressed in votes. You have been attacked by Eljcko, JDodge, and ooba.

You are the one who incorrectly called me "most voted of the month." I guess you just can't count or don't really pay attention well.

As far as the attackers of me that you pointed out, it really would not surprise me if 2 out of the 3 turned out to be scum.

[SlySly]

Town tend to attack town just as much as Scum, Sly.

Did I say that they didn't?

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Half claims do not work . I think its better you claim your role name

Too bad, scum. I clearly stated that I would not elaborate.

So posting a case with a hammer vote doesn't fulfill any purpose IMO

I'm not sure I have ever seen a scummier statement.

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Sly, why did you refuse to answer JDodge's question about mayonnaise?

Can you please point out where I refused?

And why have you yet to apologize to Eljcko?

I haven't felt the need. The game is not called Last Days of Coddling.

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unvote

vote:ooba

[SlySly]

Well, no, but it isn't Last Days of Up Yours for Suspecting Me either.

Refer to rule 0.

You didn't refuse, true. You just ignored it.

It is amazing how many people in this game are named UA.

I personally think there's logic in there. I mean, if the guy's already hammered, why ask any more questions of him? On the other hand, it doesn't hurt to state your reasons, sure. But that's a null tell, for me.

The hammer is the one vote that needs the most reason. The reason is not for the guy that just got hammered but for the remaining players. If you can't see the logic in this, up yours!!!

Also, please don't be an ass, Sly. For me. For our love. I heart you, Sly!

Do you really want to get me going again? I guess it probably would pick things back up.

[SlySly]

And P.S : I Repeat , Soft claims serve no purpose whatsoever..

Keep on thinking such. My madness is not without method.

[SlySly]

He is referring to post 308.

[SlySly]

SlySly is always overly defensive.

[SlySly]

Vote: SlySly

We need to keep things going

11 days since your last post and you dare insinuate that others are the reason for the lack of your help in the effort to "keep things going"?

Care to contribute some content as to the reasoning of your vote or how others are preventing the game from moving forward?

[SlySly]

Sly's scumradar is a little bit sensitive today, isn't it? I'd prefer you t biuld an actual case on someone rather than simply vote at the first sign of "scuminess"

After an 11 day lurk period, without stated reason...

Vote: SlySly

We need to keep things going

IMO, this is the way scum play when they are lurking.

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Should my vote be on you since you just showed a sign of scumminess?

Do you see this observation of mine as more touchiness of my scumdar?

If your answer to either of these questions is no, using your reason for your vote on me, you shouldn't have a vote on me. With no being your answer, this would make your vote reasonless which would also be the second sign of scumminess in your post.

So, do you still agree with your original reasoning or was your vote merely a reasonless attempt to "keep things going"?

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@all fellow townies

The mental energy required for my work here at Foxhound really takes a lot out of me. The heckling you guys dish out in the cubicle area when I am merely trying to assist you guys, really gets on my nerves and gets me very angry from time to time. You guys know I do good work, so try to keep it down when things get busy so I can meditate.

[SlySly]

Should I be looking for deeper meaning?

Reading the context of your entire post, I gather that you have understood enough of my point that you need not worry about digging deeper into it.

[SlySly]

unvote

vote:UA

[SlySly]

What brings your scumminess crawling back out from the woodwork, UA?

[SlySly]

Oh, since you are back...

UA, let me ask you a question.

Whats your opinion on lurkers?

[SlySly]

Are we all back now?

I am suspicious of all lurkers now that it took 11 mod confirmed days for some of you to get your night actions in.

[SlySly]

Are we all back now?

I am suspicious of all lurkers now that it took 11 mod confirmed days for some of you to get your night actions in.

You are ignoring the distinct possibility of mod laziness and/or mod being busy.

Nope, emailed mod after 11 days to see if game had been mod abandoned and he said take it up with you lurkers because he was still waiting on night choices.

[SlySly]

Dude, what is up with the 11 day long nights?

Is this game mod abandoned?

No, it's not, but some people take an unreasonable time to send in their nightchoices. Take it up with your fellow players.

[SlySly]

OK, so now the deduction - who would cause an 11-day night?

My first guess would be the same people that were taking 11 days between their posts earlier in the game.

[SlySly]

I just finished a complete re-read.

Jdodge, can you

clearly

state your case against Thanatos for me? I am an idiot, which I know is obvious due to the numerous mentions of such fact from more than one player, and I miss a lot of things and would like to have your case spelled out for me because, after my reread, I am more suspicious of another player than I am of Thanatos.

[SlySly]

Thanatos, any thoughts on the current heat directed at you?

[SlySly]

Great Overlord Sarcastro:

can we get a prod on Lloyd? It has been 25 days since his last post.

[SlySly]

UA, I seriously dislike it when someone baits the town with information and then pulls back.

Could you please point out where you spotted UA baiting the town?

[SlySly]

Weird...No Powerroles yet?

Wow. Rolefishing, and you sound very disappointed.

Vote Thantos

This seems a bit opportunistic to me, especially with all of the role fishing you have done yourself in this game.

FoS:eljcko

[SlySly]

I sense a connection between Andycyca and JDodge / Super God King.

You may be on to something. I have included an example that not only shows a possible connection between the two, but also some hindsight is 20/20 examples of possible scum activity by Andy.

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[mrow]Andy's Referenced Copycat Quotes

unvote, vote: Super God King

I hate it when people show up to say that they've been busy and don't see anything.

Seconded.

Vote : Super God King

Thirded.

Vote: Super God King

and dunno if he still has his vote on me, but call it OMGUS if you will.

[mrow]Andy, below referencing the Copycat Quotes, cast suspicion on 2 now confirmed innocents, starts wagon on 1 now confirmed innocent, defends SGK

I just said that posts 129 & 130 are a fine example of copycat wagon,
but OK, sincehe's not in any real danger right now, I find little-reasoned votes scummy.

However, that lovo comment seems even scummier,
since he's had the opportunity to answer for his action and didn't do it.

Major FOS: lovo

[SlySly]

@ SLY
But the SGK wagon is a wierd one. You forgot who started the wagon, hasdskdjh, a confirmed mafia.

SGK wagon? I'm assuming you meant the lovo wagon.

I was referring to him starting the wagon on lovo with his major FoS. Cow's vote on lovo was way earlier and had been unvoted by that time. At the point in the game the major FoS was dealt out, lovo had 0 votes on him.

[SlySly]

You have it wrong.

Andy indirectly defended SGK by describing the copycat votes, as Andy called them, of ooba and korts as scummy. Then Andy starts the new wagon on lovo with the major:FoS.

What I found interesting was that in this case, Andy has attacked 3 now dead confirmed townies and indirectly defended a player that he is now accused of being linked to by someone other than myself.

As far as Cow's vote on SGK, that could be distancing. Once Cow got a lock on lovo, he was focused.

[SlySly]

You just can't get it straight, el.

It was SGK that Andy was defending, not lovo.

[SlySly]

@ SLY
Intresting arguements on andy and jd.

Even before the copycat quotes, Andy had already indirectly defended SGK before, also inserting a clear defense of Cow(confirmed scum), while again attacking ooba and korts(both dead confirmed town) in the following quote.

This wagon on God King doesn't seem right. I mean, even Cow's (hasd) vote has some reason behind, but ooba and Korts don't.

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But the SGK wagon is a wierd one. You forgot who started the wagon, hasdskdjh, a confirmed mafia.

If you think Andy and JD are scumbuddies, you have to look into the conflict of interest of that wagon. That would mean that Cow was trying to ax his own partner.

There is no conflict of interest with the Andy/Jdodge participation on the lovo wagon and that is the wagon I was referring to, not the voting on SGK. After rereading your comments, I think you are referring to a different wagon that the one I was.

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Andy is trying to link himself to me. How odd.

Andy can die after Thanatos.

Nice distancing!!!

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I know with the high body count of innocents in this game already, with 2 still active killing groups, it is possible we are at LYLO. We have to lynch scum today.

Our votes are far more important now than previously in the game, yet...

I have seen 3 seemingly opportunistic votes put on Thanatos.

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PWNED

Vote: lovo14

unvote, vote lovo

Even Andy finds this reasonless back to back voting with confirmed scum suspicious...

What? I know it looks suspicious to get 2 votes in 2 consecutive posts, but you can't possibly be sure that there's scum in your wagon unless you're one yourself.

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I am going to jump to conclusions and assume Sniper Wolf was our vig. Any other thoughts?

The role seems plausible, but the first post only says Innocent, we should ask

the Pope

about that. What's clear is that we had at least two factions with a NK yesterday.

Nice little bit of role fishing.

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Sly's scumradar is a little bit sensitive today, isn't it? I'd prefer you t biuld an actual case on someone rather than simply vote at the first sign of "scuminess"

What's your case against Thanatos?

Vote: SlySly

We need to keep things going

Another strong case there. I guess your preference of case building doesn't apply to your own play.

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vote:Andycyca

[SlySly]

SlySly, did you happen to waste it again last night?

No, I did not waste it again last night.

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@Andy

I noticed.

You have now decided to let JD build your case instead of doing it yourself? I don't see how you can call anyone out for lurking as you have done plenty of it in this game yourself.

[SlySly]

I think there is still a good chance of town victory in this game.

unFoS:eljcko

FoS: JDodge

[SlySly]

My ignorance of LDF lore.

[SlySly]

Happy Scumday, Jdodge.

[SlySly]

Weird...No Powerroles yet?

Wow. Rolefishing, and you sound very disappointed.

Vote Thantos

Is your vote 100% based on this one post or did you spot some previous scuminess from Thanatos?

I find it odd that Andy and JD are not saying much about the allegations against them.

That is undeniably, interesting. Some might even describe it as scummy.

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...and Thanatos, being the one with the most votes yet, is still failing to defend himself properly

What does him having the most votes against him have to do with your own failure to do what you lay blame on him for?

[SlySly]

LDF now = Lurk Da Fest

Let's try to get it back closer to Last Days of Foxhound.

[SlySly]

Sly, Thantos fished on Day two also because of the power role thing.

In the following quote, didn't you fish on Day 2 as well?

I am going to jump to conclusions and assume Sniper Wolf was our vig.

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It is kind of obvious it is partial reveal.

What do you think he is partially revealing?

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Andy, your interpretation of my vote reasoning is incorrect.

1. I don't like that you are jumping on JD's bandwagon and letting him build your case for you after you stated your desire for others to build their own cases earlier in the game.
2. I don't like that you added lurking as one of your vote reasons, as you have lurked plenty in this game yourself.
3. I believe there is evidence to support a connection between JD and yourself.
4. I don't like how you called Thanatos out for not defending himself while you were neglecting to defend yourself.

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4. He's fearing we're close to LYLO for not knowing about LDF (I'm sorry I don't see the connection)

Let's just say, I know more about LDF now than I did before I made that post.

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1. Accuses me of defending scum and "Attacking" townies. (where attacking is defined as "Noticing their vote was reasonless"

I think your moves against lovo, korts ooba and myself, during this game, are more than mere coincidence. Without hindsight, some of these offensive moves/attacks wouldn't even have appeared to be attacks.

Thank goodness for hindsight. It has clearly shown me a few places in this game where you have went out of your way to cast suspicion, no matter how lightly, on confirmed townies.

[SlySly]

What is being revealed, not full info. We get name and alliance. Sarcastro is not giving roles after death, that is what he is hiding.

Oh, I thought you meant that you thought Thanatos was only partially revealing something.

Does this mean that your entire case against Thanatos is based on role fishing?

When this day started, I thought the same thing that Thanatos posted. I thought it was rather strange that no power roles had died yet until I read back through and reminded myself that this game was only partial reveal. I don't see his post as a scum tell as I thought the exact same thing the first time I saw the post.

Hopefully we will get a replacement for Thanatos soon.

Also, are you reading the comic more Sly, or are you obtaining your knowledge some other way.

I have read up and gained much knowledge about the characters of LDF.

[SlySly]

I sense an impasse, as well.

[SlySly]

Assuming there have been no successful role blocks and will continue to be none, here are the possibilities that I see remaining...

1)

2 scum(1 team)
4 town

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2)

3 scum(1 team of 2, 1 team of 1(hasdgfas' partner))
3 town

This scenario puts us at LYLO now. No room for error. Now.

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It is my understanding that an SK has to kill every night where a vig can kill when they choose. If this is the case, the lack of 2 kills during N0, leans to there not being an SK and there not being a vig kill on the first night.

I am still fairly a newb, help me out here. Generally, in a multi-scum group game, is it possible for one scum group to unknowingly NK a member of another scum group?

Am I missing another possibility?

[SlySly]

the "doctor" part of "Dr Naomi Hunter" doesn't mean she's a medical person, rather someone with a high degree of studies within a particular field of study.

Naomi does genetics research for Foxhound R & D. Genetics are part of the medical field. IMO, fits the flavor of "doctor" for this game perfectly.

[SlySly]

Nobody asked me a reason for my random vote

Anywayz ...

SCUM = 19+3+21+13 = 56
ELJCKO = 5+12+10+3+11+15 = 56

Confirm Vote : Eljcko

That was very clever of you. So clever, in fact, that I was tempted to vote for myself. But that would be dumb. But is the inverse true? Let's see the truth value of this. A=26, Z=1.

Eljcko = 22+15+17+24+16+12= 106
Scum = 8+24+6+14= 52

Since the inverse is false, you cannot make this 100% true. Therefore this logic is not 100% reliable.

unvote, vote ooba

for having unreliable math and not completely reliable logic. And you thought you could trick me. HAHA

Nice how this made you sweat so hard that you took some serious time to do reverse number calculations to discredit it and how quick it was to get you to jump on the ooba wagon, coincidentally, right after Andy boarded.

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It means very little, and FOS's are stupid IMO

I am a bit iffy on you voting on SGK, only because I saw an FOS more sutable.

Wishy, washy.

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I really don't care for that type of voting like you could care less what happens,

FOS: Lovo

. I am also wathcing ooba and korts, since they are not clean either.

Note the FOS put on lovo.

Funny how you cast suspicion on the exact same 3 now confirmed innocents Andy had cast suspicion on, which I pointed out in my #397(Copycat) post. It took Andy 2 posts and 2 summarization sentences, to do what you did in one sentence, you are quite the eager beaver!

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FoS: eljcko

[SlySly]

unvote

while I think over this claim.

[SlySly]

May I remind all that you Ocelot has Chronic Back-Stabbing Syndrome.

True, but he is only compelled to double cross anyone and everyone in a vunerable position. He is also a lunatic and a flawless marksman.

A flawless marksmen lunatic against 'anyone and everyone' who's first name is 'Revolver' kind of sounds like an un-aligned shooting SK to me. The existence of an SK explains the night deaths so far.

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I see a few new possibilities now...

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1 scum, 1 sk
4 town

If this is the case, I would be fine with lynching SK if I knew there was only 1 remaining scum. I think even in this case, the safest bet is to lynch scum over SK.

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2 scum, 1 sk
3 town

If this is the case

if we,
1. lynch SK and scum get successful NK, game over scum wins.
2. lynch scum, SK could
a. kill town and and enter tomorrow 1v1v1 if scum had NK success
b. kill scum and enter tomorrow vs 2 townies.

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If Lloyd's post count was a little higher than 12 and JDodge would participate more, it might be just a little easier to determine the who the best lynch for this day is.

Lynching scum seems most important to me in either of the cases above and a mislynch today could mean game over. I believe the SK is now outed and that narrows down the scum search.

Post townies, let's expose the scum FTW!

[SlySly]

The is definitely in need of the swift kick as Lloyd and Jdodge are both in serious lurk-mode.

Any reason behind your vote Alabaska?

[SlySly]

EBWOP:

The game is definitely...

[SlySly]

My vote remains on Andy.

Sly, if you are insinuating that Andy is an SK, how do you explain his claim of "I don't have the right to a NK"?

Under ordinary circumstances, it would be unexplainable. With it being LDF mafia, it would not surprise me for there to be some special twist to his, or any, role in this game.

In his response, not having the right, does not infer the inability.

[SlySly]

To continue this discussion, did you get a guilty result last night?

I thought you said I didn't have to say.

No need to confirm / deny one way or another.

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I believe Jdodge's opportunism throughout this current day just slightly outweighs the current suspicions I have about eljcko.

vote:Jdodge

[SlySly]

Lloyd has been after Sly's investigation a lot this day, I find that very odd.

I don't really find it odd at all, as we could be at LYLO and knowing where to place your vote is very understandable.

In fact, I think my vote is misplaced right now. Though I think the likelihood of JDodge being your scum partner is high, my vote change is because I think the pressure is more wisely placed on you at this point in the game.

unvote

vote:eljcko

[SlySly]

Great Overlord: can we get a replacement for Jdodge? It is obvious he does not intend on contributing anymore to this game.

[SlySly]

unvote

I really don't care what you have to say.

I can deal with that.

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1. Blame the mod.

This game has not gotten the kick in the ass it needs due to the apathetic and otherwise lacking contribution of the mod

Playing makes the game move, not micro-modding.

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2. Blame everyone else.

this game is not going anywhere thanks to SlySly being a dick ages ago

You put it best when you said "ages ago". The game has moved on since then.

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this game is going nowhere because Alabaska has not contributed one useful thing since he replaced in

Taking that he has posted recently, Alabaska is active now and obviously available for any questions anyone may have for him.

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this game is going nowhere because Lloyd and Andy refuse to contribute anything of use

Jdodge expresses his disgust with Lloyd and Andy for not providing him with ammo to use against them.

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this game is going nowhere thanks to eljcko being a moron

Jdodge, sensing the demise of his scumbuddy, demeans his partner.

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and this has lead to me not caring about the game and thus helping it run itself into the ground.

That is all.

Jdodge sees the obvious losing outcome and blames everyone else, including the mod, in an attempt to justify his own terrible play.

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vote:Jdodge

[SlySly]

Andy?? Lloyd?? eljcko??

[SlySly]

This game is never going to end.

[SlySly]

How are you so sure we're in lylo? How do you know that it's not 2 mafia and an SK? 2 mafia and a vig?

I'm just saying lylo is a possibility. I originally thought Ocelot might be a vig but taking the flavor into consideration, I think it makes much more sense that he is an SK.

My vote on you was mainly because from that one post you made I gathered that you no longer wanted to participate and I had it narrowed down to you and el as scum and figured I would try and help the mod out from having to try and find a replacement. Now that you seem to have rejoined us, I will...

unvote

I think eljcko is the better lynch for this day.

vote:eljcko

[SlySly]

If you think that Ocelot is an SK why aren't you voting for him?

I also think there are 2 scum left and I think it is far more important to lynch 1 of them today.

Why eljko?

Read his exchanges with me throughout today.

He demonstrates...
1. Admitted role fishing
2. Vote Opportunism
3. Confusion creation by context twisting

[SlySly]

Picking up my prod. I will post my thoughts very soon.