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Post Post #5625 (ISO) » Tue Aug 01, 2017 2:56 am

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In post 5622, MathBlade wrote:Snarky is a lurksac who sometimes forgets to act. I figured since I had to do something that redirect was best. Since Snarky died I had no evidence of whether I was blocked. And since I get no feedback I don't know.
Redirect =/= compulsion.
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Post Post #5626 (ISO) » Tue Aug 01, 2017 2:57 am

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In post 5625, 79 CE wrote:
In post 5622, MathBlade wrote:Snarky is a lurksac who sometimes forgets to act. I figured since I had to do something that redirect was best. Since Snarky died I had no evidence of whether I was blocked. And since I get no feedback I don't know.
Redirect =/= compulsion.
Compulsive = modifier to role.
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Post Post #5627 (ISO) » Tue Aug 01, 2017 2:58 am

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Post Post #5628 (ISO) » Tue Aug 01, 2017 2:59 am

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I'm saying you redirecting Snarky would have no effect if he took no action; it doesn't operate as a compulsive.
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Post Post #5629 (ISO) » Tue Aug 01, 2017 3:01 am

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In post 5628, 79 CE wrote:I'm saying you redirecting Snarky would have no effect if he took no action; it doesn't operate as a compulsive.
It does on every f2f game.
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Post Post #5630 (ISO) » Tue Aug 01, 2017 3:03 am

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Fairly sure that's not how it works on MS; you'd have to ask the moderator my girlfriend.
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Post Post #5631 (ISO) » Tue Aug 01, 2017 3:07 am

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In post 5630, 79 CE wrote:Fairly sure that's not how it works on MS; you'd have to ask the moderator my girlfriend.
No target (due to lack of submission) changes target to BTD6. Target changed.

Like I can ask your girlfriend how she would resolve it but based on my experiences with it that is how I would resolve it. Doesn't change what I did in the past under that belief.

@Mastina: If someone has a power that targets someone and doesn't submit an action (or submits no action) and a redirector redirects them then do you consider them having a target of what the redirector had?


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There you go. For the future. If she says it the way you do I will add it to the list of things MS does weird.
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Post Post #5632 (ISO) » Tue Aug 01, 2017 3:08 am

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Math, do you have all claims so far on file anywhere?
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Post Post #5633 (ISO) » Tue Aug 01, 2017 3:09 am

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Math continues to mess up their fake claim. Ignores the real elephant in the room.
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Post Post #5634 (ISO) » Tue Aug 01, 2017 3:10 am

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Eh, Math feels town honestly.
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Post Post #5635 (ISO) » Tue Aug 01, 2017 3:11 am

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In post 5632, 79 CE wrote:Math, do you have all claims so far on file anywhere?
I have it written down not in a computer file and some are theories.
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Post Post #5636 (ISO) » Tue Aug 01, 2017 3:13 am

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In post 5634, 79 CE wrote:Eh, Math feels town honestly.
PoE says they're not.
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Post Post #5637 (ISO) » Tue Aug 01, 2017 3:14 am

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Your PoE is based on extremely weak reasoning and conjecture.
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Post Post #5638 (ISO) » Tue Aug 01, 2017 3:17 am

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Claimed
Ginngie Jailkeeper
Titus bodyguard
Creature role related reasons for strongman
QR some kind of inforole

Confirmed
Me - Redirector (unless you think Nos blocked btd6 which requires explanation)
Btd6 tracker who had no result on me (he first said nowhere)
Nos roleblocker confirmed
A2 -- Desperado
Eddie Voyeur

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Post Post #5639 (ISO) » Tue Aug 01, 2017 3:18 am

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In post 5637, 79 CE wrote:Your PoE is based on extremely weak reasoning and conjecture.
It's based on claims. The pool is down to Math only.
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Post Post #5640 (ISO) » Tue Aug 01, 2017 3:19 am

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Creature didn't claim protective? Why is it not clear that BTD was roleblocked?

pedit yeah, you're not even trying to talk at this point Bulba.
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Post Post #5641 (ISO) » Tue Aug 01, 2017 3:21 am

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In post 5639, Bulbazak wrote:
In post 5637, 79 CE wrote:Your PoE is based on extremely weak reasoning and conjecture.
It's based on claims. The pool is down to Math only.
...Again you're assuming a strongman to make your point.

When in reality there is a bus driver.

Even if there was a strongman and Ginngie is a liar or Nos blocked BTD6 you haven't accounted for the scum boon.

1-shot bus driver on someone you know a lot of people are gonna target makes sense given I know there is a town manipulative.
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Post Post #5642 (ISO) » Tue Aug 01, 2017 3:22 am

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In post 5640, 79 CE wrote:Creature didn't claim protective? Why is it not clear that BTD was roleblocked?

pedit yeah, you're not even trying to talk at this point Bulba.
Creature has been wishy washy. He's never said one way or the other directly but I have theories on that. I think it best to not poke that further.
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Post Post #5643 (ISO) » Tue Aug 01, 2017 3:24 am

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The Light PT n1: {Gin, Titus, Creature, BTD, Snarky, Nos, Math, Quantum}
Snarky dies: {Gin, Titus, Creature, BTD, Nos, Math Quantum}
Protective claims from Gin/Titus/Creature pointing to strongman: {BTD, Nos, Math, Quantum}
BTD lynched: {Nos, Math Quantum}
Nos vigged, flips roleblocker, not strongman. Quantum cleared for role reasons relating to A2.: {Math}

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Post Post #5644 (ISO) » Tue Aug 01, 2017 3:24 am

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In post 5643, Bulbazak wrote:The Light PT n1: {Gin, Titus, Creature, BTD, Snarky, Nos, Math, Quantum}
Snarky dies: {Gin, Titus, Creature, BTD, Nos, Math Quantum}
Protective claims from Gin/Titus/Creature pointing to strongman: {BTD, Nos, Math, Quantum}
BTD lynched: {Nos, Math Quantum}
Nos vigged, flips roleblocker, not strongman. Quantum cleared for role reasons relating to A2.: {Math}

What am I missing here?
Scum boon on the first post.
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Post Post #5645 (ISO) » Tue Aug 01, 2017 3:25 am

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Nothing so far has explained the Snarky kill, and Math is simultaneously throwing up Bus Driver and boon as a way to deflect attention away. They've been doing this since the results were announced d2.
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Post Post #5646 (ISO) » Tue Aug 01, 2017 3:26 am

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Furthermore please stop saying strongman when it isn't confirmed. That'd be amazing. I am getting sick and tired of people hunting for something that likely doesn't exist.

The most likely answer is bus drive as I see zero in BTD6's ISO that would cause scum to block btd6.
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Post Post #5647 (ISO) » Tue Aug 01, 2017 3:27 am

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You've removed Titus from the PoE; why is QR cleared?
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Post Post #5648 (ISO) » Tue Aug 01, 2017 3:28 am

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In post 5645, Bulbazak wrote:Nothing so far has explained the Snarky kill, and Math is simultaneously throwing up Bus Driver and boon as a way to deflect attention away. They've been doing this since the results were announced d2.
Omg really...

You can't say I am not explaining the Snarky kill and then when I explain it you say "oh you're trying to deflect attention away".

I am a redirector when the results were announced bus driver was the likely theory for me and BTD6 block proves it.
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Post Post #5649 (ISO) » Tue Aug 01, 2017 3:29 am

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In post 5647, 79 CE wrote:You've removed Titus from the PoE; why is QR cleared?
In the light he said he had info to bring Alisae over. Alisae shot Nos. Nos flipped scum.
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