Night and Day Mafia (Game Over)

[Ginngie]

Why did you redirect Snarky instead of forcing me to heal Snarky? Assuming you are town, Snarky could be left with an inaccurate result.

Both night actions are scum motivated

[Creature]

I'm not that sure Math is scum...

[MathBlade]

Titus, walk me through scum having a redirector over a strongman. So Math moves Gin to BTD. Kelvin/Nos roleblocks you. Where does Creature fit into this? I've only come up with one possible solution for what he could be and end up with a strongman result, but he'd still need to be targeting Snarky. Am I missing something?

Creature imo needs to claim why he thinks Strongman. That's where I am on night actions. If we could definitively prove n1, we can sort a lot.

Fruit from the poisoned tree.

You poisoned this town. I keep thinking you're Town and maybe you're scum just trying to hide facts.

@Ginngie we've been over this. I didn't have time to detail every read that changed. It is common SOP that re-evaluate after Town flip.

Hardly. I was wrong on BTD but town was finding Nos scum. The distinction between bus driver and strongman has little implication. If a Strongman exists, you actually look townier in that exchange. There is also the possibility of neither and Ginngie being scum.

Why did you redirect Snarky instead of forcing me to heal Snarky? Assuming you are town, Snarky could be left with an inaccurate result.

Because I never die on night one and Snarky getting a result on someone was important.

Because I am a redirector scum having bus driver likely. So directing you on Snarky useless.

Honestly I think we're fucked because people don't read the setup. You screamed something without basis in fact and I am just ... honestly I am tired of fighting the idiocracy.

[Titus]

I'm not that sure Math is scum...

Nor am I. If Math and Bulba are town, your claim is one of the rare things I could see them course correcting over. I am asking you to claim. You are a TR, so I get it if you say pound sand but at least consider it...

[Bulbazak]

And if Gin is scum?

She's not. There's more than enough pointing to Gin town at this point.

If we could lock down strongman as existing, rather than a mistaken belief by Creature then that helps. It also stops Math's bus driver theory and brings them back which is good regardless of Math alignment.

That's why I'm walking through it. I'm trying to figure out what is most likely.

I'm not that sure Math is scum...

Why not?

[Ginngie]

No Math, the question is why would you not send Titus to protect Snarky.

mastina already said you would have known that you couldn't force snarky to make an action

[Bulbazak]

Titus, I don't want Creature to claim yet.

[Creature]

Redirector couldn't have gotten Snarky killed.

Btw, why were you suggesting redirector got Snarky killed?

[Creature]

My role doesn't give info about BulbaBlade.

[Titus]

No Math, the question is why would you not send Titus to protect Snarky.

mastina already said you would have known that you couldn't force snarky to make an action

This

[Creature]

Huh

Yeah, that gotta be explained

[MathBlade]

Furthermore your arguments on scum require scum to block Snarky redirect Snarky and strongman kill him...

Like I am programming til late tonight.

I literally cannot deal with this bullshit right now.

Mastina said I would know if it was in my role PM. It is.

Now. Work for me.

And again directing Titus to Snarky is useless because bus driver.

By redirecting Snarky I would get him a cop result or confirm bus driver.

[Ginngie]

You don't go in knowing a set up

There wasn't any indication at night start to think bus driver.

A lot of your reasoning is ends justifying the means but that doesn't work because you don't know the results before you make the actions

[Titus]

My role doesn't give info about BulbaBlade.

No. I want to verify strongman or disprove so bulba and I can make hypothesis. If strongman near confirmed, Math must reset. If Strongman out, Bulba may need to.

[Creature]

Sorta expected that if scum had a redirector they would get Snarky inaccurate results.

[MathBlade]

Titus claiming strongman instead of what I agreed really just pissed me off then to make it worse everyone piled on and said any redirector was scum. Did you honestly expect me to claim and give scum what they fucking wanted?

[Ginngie]

UNVOTE:

[Ginngie]

Sorta expected that if scum had a redirector they would get Snarky inaccurate results.

This actually

[MathBlade]

You don't go in knowing a set up

There wasn't any indication at night start to think bus driver.

A lot of your reasoning is ends justifying the means but that doesn't work because you don't know the results before you make the actions

Yes if Town has a redirector scum have a bus driver always

Set up 101.

Like wtf?

[Titus]

Sorta expected that if scum had a redirector they would get Snarky inaccurate results.

Yes, but let's stop guessing and start logicing this please Creature.

[Ginngie]

Titus, why redirect Snarky if they would strongman him.

It's a waste of ability.

[MathBlade]

And yes Creature should claim /sarcasm

That sounds like a great idea /sarcasm


Wassssssssd up ???

[Creature]

Sure, were scum!MathBlade and the strongman-or-whatever slot in big danger of both being caught?

[Titus]

Sorta expected that if scum had a redirector they would get Snarky inaccurate results.

This actually

Why does this cause you to unvote Math, as Math claimed to target Snarky and is consistent with your "scum motivated choices" theory?

[Ginngie]

Sorta expected that if scum had a redirector they would get Snarky inaccurate results.

This actually

Why does this cause you to unvote Math, as Math claimed to target Snarky and is consistent with your "scum motivated choices" theory?

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