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[Mulch]

lmao

[MarioManiac4]

the singular benefit to doing massclaim today would be to kinda clear scorp if there are no other PR claims, i don't see 8 vt + 2shotvig vs 2 goons as something that would be passed tbh

it could also out an important role though

[LlamaFluff]

the singular benefit to doing massclaim today would be to kinda clear scorp if there are no other PR claims, i don't see 8 vt + 2shotvig vs 2 goons as something that would be passed tbh

it could also out an important role though

That first setup would never be passed. The setup as even claimed right now might not even pass against two goons because it could go sideways really quickly and badly for town. Basically a role that gets one confirmed result (and dies if its scum) and a vig.... works but im not sold on it. High variance setup.

If there is intent to vote Scorp though, we 100% should massclaim because you are in one of two situations:

1) Massclaim finished scum-Scorp off
2) Massclaim clears town-Scorp and we suddenly have two confirmed town

If you are looking at lynching elsewhere, then we can discuss not massclaiming. If we do massclaim though, I can see merits in AUN being allowed to abstain if he wishes.

[MarioManiac4]

save us lord and saviour awesomeusername

[Mulch]

I would prefer that we massclaim but I can see the arguements against it.

[awesomeusername]

I'm still inclined to think Scorpious is town, but if you all really want to lynch him, we might want to massclaim. I was thinking about this overnight - whether mafia kills Scorpious or elsewhere, it still kinda frames me or Scorpious respectively.

I gotta go now, but I'll be back in a few hours with an order decided, if you all want to massclaim. Still haven't heard from like half the playerlist. Please don't quicklynch in my absence.

If we lynched elsewhere, where would you vote?

[MarioManiac4]

>mfw the clear forces me to use critical thinking skills

[MarioManiac4]

honestly im tempted to just say llamafluff because im not a fan of his tone but objectively idk anything wrong with him

[Scorpious]

I would have killed awesomeusername. That doesn't really matter though.

What would be your reasoning? Your kill would have failed.. You would know that it was going to fail also.

[Mulch]

not if ur scum

[Scorpious]

not if ur scum

He would know I'm not scum..

[MarioManiac4]

I would have killed awesomeusername. That doesn't really matter though.

What would be your reasoning? Your kill would have failed.. You would know that it was going to fail also.

wow im an idiot

[MarioManiac4]

i just remembered scorp as weak but hes also a doc so zzzzzzzzzzzz

[LlamaFluff]

I'm still inclined to think Scorpious is town, but if you all really want to lynch him, we might want to massclaim. I was thinking about this overnight - whether mafia kills Scorpious or elsewhere, it still kinda frames me or Scorpious respectively.

Scorp is still probably town. His claim never survives to endgame, so he would have had to make a game ending misread of what his claim was and make it complex instead of claiming something like "one shot doctor".

Basically last night in a nutshell:

If scum was Scorp -> AUN clear, he takes shot at a PR read
If scum was AUN -> Scorp kill is forced
If scum elsewhere -> Choice between taking a PR shot and clearing AUN (only good if you are sure there is a third PR and have a read on who) vs Killing Scorp to prevent a cleared player (best move)

That's what bugs me about all of it. If you wanted to PR hunt, Steel was a bad shot. The only player who would be forced to make that move is Scorp, but then why claim a "must be lynched" role that also will result in force-clearing a player?

Someone just made a major error (or at least took a high risk high reward route), and im not sure who.

Guess Occamz says Scorp, but we still cant do that without massclaim. Even then it probably would have been a better move to just kill AUN and try to argue there is a scum RB

[Mulch]

I thought he meant if scorp was scum he would have killed awesome

[Mulch]

If you wanted to PR hunt, Steel was a bad shot

Why do you think this?

[Ircher]

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Day 3 VC #2

Awesomeusername (0) -
WhyMafia (0) -
Mulch (0) -
Scorpious (2) - MarioManiac4 (1465), Mulch (1468)
Alban (0) -
MarioManiac4 (0) -
LlamaFluff (0) -
No Lynch (0) -
Not Voting (5) - Alban, LlamaFluff, Scorpious, Awesomeusername, WhyMafia

Lynch Threshold

With 7 alive, it takes 4 to lynch.

Deadline

Day 3 will end by August 10, 2017 5:30 PM EDT or in (expired on 2017-08-10 17:30:00).

Moderator Notes

Have fun!

Spoiler: Current Voting History

Day 3

Mulch: Scorpious (1468)
MarioManiac4: Scorpious (1465)

Spoiler: Previous Voting History

Day 2

Awesomeusername: WhyMafia (1427) --> (Null) (1435) --> No Lynch (1436)
WhyMafia: Alban (867) --> Awesomeusername (1191) --> Alban (1223) --> Scorpious (1323) --> No Lynch (

1437*

)

Steel

: LlamaFluff (955) --> Scorpious (1325) --> (Null) (1410) --> Alban (1426)
Mulch: Alban (918) --> Scorpious (945) --> Alban (957) --> Awesomeusername (972) --> Alban (1006) --> LlamaFluff (1090) ==> LlamaFluff (1098) --> Alban (1113) --> LlamaFluff (1154) --> Alban (1156) --> Scorpious (1200) --> LlamaFluff (1267) --> Scorpious (1268) --> (Null) (1389) --> No Lynch (1432)
Scorpious: Alban (1229) --> (Null) (1313) --> WhyMafia (1340) --> No Lynch (1434)
Alban: WhyMafia (869)
MarioManiac4: Awesomeusername (1006) --> Scorpious (1244)
LlamaFluff: Mulch (961) --> No Lynch (1431)

Day 1

Awesomeusername: Scorpious (73) --> I am Innocent (205) --> (Null) (387) --> Vedith (496) --> (Null) (565) --> LlamaFluff (586) --> (Null) (597)

Vedith

: Carcalilly (88) --> Tchill13 (135) --> Steel (193) --> WhyMafia (455) --> Scorpious (459) --> Carcalilly (580) -->

Vedith (755)*

Lil Uzi Vert

(replaced by WhyMafia)

: MarioManiac4 (192) --> Steel (256)
WhyMafia

(replaced Lil Uzi Vert)

: Alban (460) --> Carcalilly (571) --> Vedith (588) --> Carcalilly (591) --> Vedith (727)

Steel

: No Lynch (127) ==> No Lynch (182) --> Lil Uzi Vert (254) --> (Null) (272) --> Carcalilly (279) --> Scorpious (419) --> Vedith (442) --> (Null) (469) --> Vedith (545) --> LlamaFluff (537) --> Carcalilly (570)
Io: Steel (67) --> Io (132) --> (Null) (164) --> I am Innocent (204) --> MarioManiac4 (365) --> (Null) (428) --> Vedith (618) --> (Null) (724)
Scorpious: Lil Uzi Vert (99) --> (Null) (482) --> Vedith (587)
Alban: Vedith (104)

Tchill13

: Carcalilly (129) --> (Null) (147) --> Vedith (231) --> Scorpious (437) --> (Null) (475) --> Carcalilly (592)

Carcalilly

: MarioManiac4 (78) --> Vedith (90) --> Lil Uzi Vert (102) ==> Lil Uzi Vert (120) --> Io (133) --> Tchill13 (138) --> MarioManiac4 (170) --> Vedith (298) --> MarioManiac4 (377) --> Alban (602) --> Vedith (695)
MarioManiac4: Carcalilly (66) --> (Null) (157) --> Tchill13 (174) --> Scorpious (176) --> Steel (189) --> (Null) (289) --> MarioManiac4 (340) --> Vedith (345) --> Scorpious (405)
I am Innocent (

replaced by LlamaFluff

): Carcalilly (69)
LlamaFluff (

replaced I am Innocent

): Vedith (532)

Dawn

Awesomeusername: MarioManiac4 (7)

Vedith

: Tchill13 (13) --> Scorpious (24)

Tchill13

: MarioManiac4 (49)

Carcalilly

: Vedith (15) --> MarioManiac4 (19) --> Scorpious (30) --> MarioManiac4 (58)
MarioManiac4: Vedith (4) --> Carcalilly (50)

[WhyMafia]

Massclaim time? Who's going first?

[alban]

Unvote from Scorp first.

[awesomeusername]

Sorry for the delay.

Looks like we're doing massclaim, so order is:

Llama -> Mulch -> WM -> alban -> Mario

[LlamaFluff]

VT

[MarioManiac4]

/(._)/ WE NEED A MULCH OVER HERE

[Mulch]

Vt

[Mulch]

When Alban gets to pick second to last

[WhyMafia]

Ikr
I'm VT