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Post Post #275 (ISO) » Tue Aug 08, 2017 5:54 am

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In post 273, vonflare wrote:sparkles is not the lynch today
Do you disagree with my posts? What do you see town in Sparkles?
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Post Post #276 (ISO) » Tue Aug 08, 2017 5:57 am

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In post 267, Vaxkiller wrote:
In post 264, Chickadee wrote:I'm a Town Seer, I can see if people are werewolves or not.
So you either a seer or a wolf. If you were any other scummy alignment this claim puts you out there too much to get killed by a wolf (if they exist).

I say we keep her alive and see what kind of NK's we got. Do NK's have flavor attached to them? If wolves are out there they will want her dead, if shes alive and there is wolf NK flavor then kill her.
While I agree with this plan, it also sets me up to be a given mislynch. All wolves have to do is keep me alive one night. But it's still a good plan. If I do live, I can at least find out if someone is a wolf or not. It will either be a guilty or a semi-clear on someone.

@mulch, you realize pretty much anything can be in god game due to the set up, right? How are you so confident that here are no wolves?
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Post Post #277 (ISO) » Tue Aug 08, 2017 5:58 am

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Where did I say I was confident there were no wolves?
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Post Post #278 (ISO) » Tue Aug 08, 2017 5:59 am

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In post 274, Mulch wrote:
In post 264, Chickadee wrote:I'm a Town Seer, I can see if people are werewolves or not.
Bullshit claim, it is a non confirmable claim that you will never be caught on, because the vast majority if not all of us here are not werewolves
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Post Post #279 (ISO) » Tue Aug 08, 2017 6:00 am

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And I chose this role because it was better than tourist, who compulsively visits someone each night and does nothing
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Post Post #280 (ISO) » Tue Aug 08, 2017 6:03 am

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2 people discarded werewolves. Take away your claim. That means there are 6 people left. There are 18/146 chances for there to be werewolves in the card. I'm horrible at math but that's a low probability. That means ther are 128/146 chances for there NOT to be a werewolf. Which means the odds of that happeningn 6 times is 45%.

This means that the probability of there even being ONE werewolf is only 55%.

That means that your claim, if fake, has a 45% chance of NEVER being able to be proven wrong, and even if there are 1 or 2 werewolves, means that you would have to somehow pick someone that is a werewolf and claim they are not werewolf, which is super low anyway.


Your claim has an extremely low risk rate if it's fake.
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Post Post #281 (ISO) » Tue Aug 08, 2017 6:07 am

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In post 280, Mulch wrote:2 people discarded werewolves. Take away your claim. That means there are 6 people left.
technically
its not impossible for someone to be dealt 2 different werewolf cards
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Post Post #282 (ISO) » Tue Aug 08, 2017 6:08 am

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In post 280, Mulch wrote:Which means the odds of that happeningn 6 times is 45%.
also this is definitely wrong
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Post Post #283 (ISO) » Tue Aug 08, 2017 6:10 am

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To determine the odds of something six times you multiply by itself 6 times.


But the point isn't the exact math it's that the claim is super safe
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Post Post #284 (ISO) » Tue Aug 08, 2017 6:10 am

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In post 275, Mulch wrote:
In post 273, vonflare wrote:sparkles is not the lynch today
Do you disagree with my posts? What do you see town in Sparkles?
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Post Post #285 (ISO) » Tue Aug 08, 2017 6:13 am

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In post 284, Mulch wrote:
In post 275, Mulch wrote:
In post 273, vonflare wrote:sparkles is not the lynch today
Do you disagree with my posts? What do you see town in Sparkles?
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my read is based on the strong discard.

scum wouldn't discard a strong town role IMO as they know they would be first-post scumread and I think its more likely that if you were given a scum role and a STRONG town role you pick the strong town, especially in a low-player-count multi-faction greater idea where any scum has a high chance of being essentially an SK without teammates
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Post Post #286 (ISO) » Tue Aug 08, 2017 6:14 am

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In post 285, vonflare wrote:
In post 284, Mulch wrote:
In post 275, Mulch wrote:
In post 273, vonflare wrote:sparkles is not the lynch today
Do you disagree with my posts? What do you see town in Sparkles?
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my read is based on the strong discard.

scum wouldn't discard a strong town role IMO as they know they would be first-post scumread and I think its more likely that if you were given a scum role and a STRONG town role you pick the strong town, especially in a low-player-count multi-faction greater idea where any scum has a high chance of being essentially an SK without teammates
In this case I would apply Occam's razor m8
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Post Post #287 (ISO) » Tue Aug 08, 2017 6:18 am

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I know its a WIFOMy reason but its the best i've got, nothing in his posts is really speaking to me
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Post Post #288 (ISO) » Tue Aug 08, 2017 6:31 am

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WHy is a WIFOm reason enough to completely veto someome lynch?
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Post Post #289 (ISO) » Tue Aug 08, 2017 6:35 am

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I want to wait on chickadee and lynch someone who is not actively participating in the conversation here.
Vaxkiller is not anti-vaccine, he is a killer of Vax machines.

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Post Post #290 (ISO) » Tue Aug 08, 2017 6:50 am

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In post 288, Mulch wrote:WHy is a WIFOm reason enough to completely veto someome lynch?
I don't have the power to veto a lynch

I'm saying I won't vote for them
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Post Post #291 (ISO) » Tue Aug 08, 2017 7:27 am

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In post 283, Mulch wrote:the claim is super safe
I disagree.

As it was stated, if there are werewolves, they now want me dead. I've made myself a target.
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Post Post #292 (ISO) » Tue Aug 08, 2017 7:29 am

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In post 291, Chickadee wrote:
In post 283, Mulch wrote:the claim is super safe
I disagree.

As it was stated, if there are werewolves, they now want me dead. I've made myself a target.
Do you not know what I mean by "safe"?
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Post Post #293 (ISO) » Tue Aug 08, 2017 7:32 am

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In post 292, Mulch wrote:
In post 291, Chickadee wrote:
In post 283, Mulch wrote:the claim is super safe
I disagree.

As it was stated, if there are werewolves, they now want me dead. I've made myself a target.
Do you not know what I mean by "safe"?
Do you know what you meant by "safe"?

I just don't see my claim as being all that safe. I get that you think it may or may not be provable (and yes, there is a low likelihood of proving my role), but that doesn't make it safe.
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Post Post #294 (ISO) » Tue Aug 08, 2017 7:37 am

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mulch is saying its a safe claim if you are lying
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Post Post #295 (ISO) » Tue Aug 08, 2017 7:37 am

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It's safe because it's not proveable and you can't be called out on it at all, because if you are scum you will just say everyone is not a werewolf, and you will be right 99.99% of the time
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Post Post #296 (ISO) » Tue Aug 08, 2017 7:45 am

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By that standard though, given the setup, everything is safe.
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Post Post #297 (ISO) » Tue Aug 08, 2017 7:50 am

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Post Post #298 (ISO) » Tue Aug 08, 2017 7:50 am

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And even if so that means we shoulden't give weight to claims.


But that's wrong.
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Post Post #299 (ISO) » Tue Aug 08, 2017 7:57 am

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Safe is relative, if I wanted to fake claim something useful id say watcher/tracker. Claiming seer isnt going to deter many lynches.
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