Micro 735: Greater Idea (Day 2 Begins)

[Keychain]

Von

Are you still assuming I'm scum

Why

[vonflare]

well screen has hard defended you through the day and he's confscum to me soooooo

[Keychain]

If I was scum I would have shut up at hammer.

Outta battery shortly, will probably be locked by the time I get home, so lynch Chick for me

[Srceenplay]

if he was bluffing its basically a scumclaim

If I'm bluffing or if I'm serious

[Mulch]

If sparkles dosen't show me his case I might shoot him instead

[vonflare]

and before you ask for proof to back up my statement:

- never mentions key (ISO HIM) other than to naked vote him in RVS and to agree with him once

- scumreads me through the entire game (most likely for me pushing his scumbuddy)

- constantly defends key:

Spoiler:

@SCREEN

I FEEL LIKE I HAVE BULLSHITTED A MILDLY STRONG DISTRACTION IN 385 COULD EVERYONE READ IT AND TELL ME MY SHIT STINKS. THANK YOU

FTFY

Von. Why push this key lynch so late? Why not 24 hours ago or wait tomorrow?

- (fake?) dayvigs me for pushing his scumbuddy

[Agent Sparkles]

I know a Mulch lynch is impossible today, but I want everyone to see this in the unlikely event that I die tonight.

Mulch isn't playing like an uninformed player, considering new information as it pops up and making honest evaluations of who scum is. He's playing like someone with an agenda, whose goal is to get his targets lynched at all costs even if it means twisting and exaggerating the details or just flat-out bullshitting arguments.

If you're not confident in your reads you might not want a vig role because you can screw over town so easily with bad choices

1) This is just not the mentality you have when choosing your choices.

2) When I played with Sparkles in my first normal game, he was extremely confident and identified me as scum day 1 and said after the game he wished he had kept pushing on me. He's a confident person. Let alone objecitvely that's not your mentality you have in this sort of game, you choose the most fun role, it's specifically not true for Sparkles

First he groups everyone into a giant umbrella by saying "this is just not the mindset you have when choosing your choices," even though it's pretty damn obvious that not everyone is going to take the high-risk high-reward path when they have two choices in front of them. He's trying to turn his own SUBJECTIVE mindset into a universally accurate one when he should know that it isn't. Also, the "you choose the most fun role" claim is nonsense, people are going to choose wincon the majority of the time if they get two town cards.

Then he tries using a bad interpretation of my meta as an argument for why I wouldn't have this mindset. I mostly covered this in 383, but it's also ignoring the fact that I've never claimed to be amazing at reading people, nor was I ever "extremely confident" about him. He was there and, again, should know this.

Thinking Srceenplay is probably town after going over his ISO. I don't like the majority of his posts, but I think 131/142 could be a perspective slip indicating that he doesn't have a neutral/third party scum role, or he probably wouldn't have slipped back into the more generic "town vs. mafia" mindset. Granted, this doesn't rule out mafia roles, but it gives him much better than the base chance of being town if I'm right.

The language used here dosen't match up with the actions. He claims to not like any of his posts, which should be a huge scumread, yet he says that because of a perspective slip he is town. That's fine. What's not fine is the fact that his word usage does not indicate the level of confidence needed to switch a read like this.

Could

be a perspective slip

probably

woulden't have

Dosen't rule out

mafia roles

_________________________

This is the type of confidence you have to completely reverse your read on him?

I say "I don't like most of his posts" and he immediately claims I'm supposed to have a "huge scumread" based off of that even though I'd given zero context and had never implied I was getting OMG HUGE SCUMTELLS from him. He's grossly exaggerating my words and trying to use them against me. Also, the "doesn't rule out mafia roles?" No shit I'm going to include that, because the

basic premise of my argument

is that it doesn't make him town right off the bat, but severely limits the other possible alignments if I'm right.

There's more, but I don't want to get locked on

[vonflare]

yeah mulch might be scum but I personally think he's the least scummy player in the people who I don't have as hard town

[Mulch]

Kk shooting Sparkles, that's bullshit. will WIFOM between Sparkles and Chicadee

[Agent Sparkles]

Mulch, you can't be completely fucking sure that Chick is the right lynch and then shoot me instead. You'll be scumclaiming if you do.

[vonflare]

if the dayvig was fake and I die tonight can you guys promise me you'll lynch screen tomorrow

[Srceenplay]

Everyone is scum claiming?

[vonflare]

Everyone is scum claiming?

yep you got it everyone is scum good work

[Agent Sparkles]

LYNCH THE FUCK OUT OF MULCH TOMORROW IF HE SHOOTS ME. YOU DO NOT JUST SWITCH YOUR KILL ON A DIME AFTER HOW COMPLETELY TUNNELED HE WAS ON CHICKADEE.

[Mulch]

Mulch, you can't be completely fucking sure that Chick is the right lynch and then shoot me instead. You'll be scumclaiming if you do.

Yeah but it would make me feel much more satisfied to shoot you. You best be hoping I feel mercy in the night

[vonflare]

Kk shooting Sparkles, that's bullshit. will WIFOM between Sparkles and Chicadee

that's dumb

if you really are a vig you should shoot screen 100000% he is confirmed scum

[Srceenplay]

The flip is taking forever

[Srceenplay]

Von. Who first me or

[vonflare]

sparkles can you vote keychain for me on the offchance he is loved and we actually dont have a lynch yet

[vonflare]

Von. Who first me or

i mean you scumclaimed if I don't die sooooo

[Agent Sparkles]

Mulch, you can't be completely fucking sure that Chick is the right lynch and then shoot me instead. You'll be scumclaiming if you do.

Yeah but it would make me feel much more satisfied to shoot you. You best be hoping I feel mercy in the night

That's playing against wincon if you're town.

[vonflare]

nvm there is no loved in the setup

[Agent Sparkles]

Lol okay

VOTE: KeyChain

[vonflare]

mulch you are shooting screen tonight do you understand

I will lynch chick with you tomorrow if we haven't won the game

[Mulch]

Mulch, you can't be completely fucking sure that Chick is the right lynch and then shoot me instead. You'll be scumclaiming if you do.

Yeah but it would make me feel much more satisfied to shoot you. You best be hoping I feel mercy in the night

That's playing against wincon if you're town.

Depends on what kind of mood I am in.

Laughs manically

IDK man that case was pretty bullshit but I have to see over the night whether I think it comes from town PoV or scum PoV and then depending on my decision I'll shoot you or Chicadee.